Drama USA's Suits - Part 1

[Matt]

This show is starting to get stale, IMO.

 

[Kaleb]

Yeah I really hope it doesn't revert back to its old status quo, I want Mike to find something that's got nothing to do with law, I was hoping he would have lasted longer as a teacher.

 

[Dark Raven]

Well he said before that he loves the law. When he tried to be that Investment Banker or whatever it was, he eventually did come back to law and work for Pearson Specter again (can't remember if it was PSL at the time). He might eventually decide he wants to do the same and work alongside the people who are his family.

Also, there were rumours of an engagement between Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, but they proved to be premature and unfounded. But their relationship does seem to be getting quite serious, so it could very well be in the cards. She's met a number of the other members of the Royal family already.

http://www.ibtimes.com.au/prince-ha...-confirms-definite-possibility-future-1541737

So maybe if Suits comes back for Season 7, her days on the show could be numbered.

 

[X Knight]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admission_to_the_bar_in_the_United_States#Admission_without_law_school



I don't know about the law school study (I think he does have the minimum, but could be wrong), but Mike will have no problems passing the bar exam itself. This is why Harvey was pushing for character references, because Mike will also need to pass a character review after the exam, which as of right now on the show, he won't.

hmm....I didn't know that.

however, if I recall, Mike doesn't have ANY law school experience. He got expelled from that college when he got caught taking LSATs and the Dean said he would make sure Mike doesn't get into Harvard Law.

the whole premise of the show is ( or was ) that Mike was a fraud who should not have been practicing law.

if Mike could have "read the law" in NY, he and Harvey could have pursued that route a long time ago instead of constantly breaking the laws ( like hacking into Harvard Law grade records ) to make Mike seem like a legit lawyer.

however, if certain states do not require students to have attended law school, but can "read the law" after studying under a practicing attorney, that may ultimately be the solution.

If Mike really wants to continue practicing law, then he and Rachel could move to one of those states and he could try to read the law to try to take the bar exam. Or else, go to a smaller, lesser known law school in a smaller state, study for real to be a lawyer while Rachel practices law, and then pass the bar.

Mike would not be practicing law in New York for a prestigious firm, nor would he have graduated from Harvard Law. but, that's just something he'd have to sacrifice if he really wants to pursue law and use law to help people, which is what he has always purported his intentions to be.

you don't need to work in a big city, at a prestigious firm, or have graduated from a top law school to actually do that.

 

[X Knight]

This show is starting to get stale, IMO.

I agree. I had to force myself to watch this latest episode, and I still haven't finished it......lol.

the "hook" or "draw" of the show was how would Mike get caught. how would he be exposed and how would the whole lie come crumbling down.

well, now that he has been caught and exposed, it feels like that draw or hook is gone. and thus I find myself less interested in what happens next.

sure, I'm curious what Mike will do in the end. but, I don't think they need another 2 or 3 or 4 more seasons to tell the remainder of the story.

next season should be the final season and they can wrap up the story instead of dragging it on and on and on.

 

[carrrnuttt]

if Mike could have "read the law" in NY, he and Harvey could have pursued that route a long time ago instead of constantly breaking the laws ( like hacking into Harvard Law grade records ) to make Mike seem like a legit lawyer.

That's because Harvey already hired Mike as an associate from Harvard form the jump.

As soon as they did that, the die was set for them to live that lie in every facet of it.

If Mike had attempted to pursue a legitimate bar appointment before his imprisonment, that exposes the lie.

 

[X Knight]

That's because Harvey already hired Mike as an associate from Harvard form the jump.

As soon as they did that, the die was set for them to live that lie in every facet of it.

If Mike had attempted to pursue a legitimate bar appointment before his imprisonment, that exposes the lie.

I agree.

the point I was trying to make was that if Mike already had gone to law school for at least a year, Harvey could have offered Mike the chance to read the law and pass the bar that way from the outset.

but since Mike didn't even go to law school, that option wasn't available, so Mike and Harvey had to lie and come up with the ruse from the start.

 

[carrrnuttt]

the point I was trying to make was that if Mike already had gone to law school for at least a year, Harvey could have offered Mike the chance to read the law and pass the bar that way from the outset.

Still wouldn't work, since Pearson Specter only hired Harvard grads at that time. I mean the lie would be smaller, but the drama behind the lie would be a lot less.

Now, the drama for me is how Mike, who is arguably the best lawyer on the show (in a show filled with great, competent lawyers - as portrayed), gets back to the profession he belongs in, and the one where he can do the most good.

 

[Kaleb]

So Mike is just going to ignore Anita's warning and continue practicing law

 

[terry78]

So Mike is just going to ignore Anita's warning and continue practicing law

I assume you've been watching the show a while so that shouldn't be a shock.

 

[Dark Raven]

He is back in law and working for this legal clinic. They know he has a criminal record too.

 

[carrrnuttt]

So Mike is just going to ignore Anita's warning and continue practicing law

He's not.

That's why Mike couldn't step in when the junior lawyer arguing their eviction case was floundering.

He's their supervisor. Basically the coach who couldn't play, but knows more about how to play than his team does.

It's actually the best place for Mike. He gets to use his big law brain to do what he wants to do, which is help people, while not having to lie about anything.

Just wait until it's one of Mike's clinic's clients against one of PSL's corporate clients.

 

[Kaleb]

He's not.

That's why Mike couldn't step in when the junior lawyer arguing their eviction case was floundering.

He's their supervisor. Basically the coach who couldn't play, but knows more about how to play than his team does.

It's actually the best place for Mike. He gets to use his big law brain to do what he wants to do, which is help people, while not having to lie about anything.

Just wait until it's one of Mike's clinic's clients against one of PSL's corporate clients.

Yeah but somehow I dont think Anita will see it that way.

 

[Dark Raven]

It seems that Mike may end up being qualified for the bar after all, by the end of this season. The junior lawyer losing badly in court and not knowing which objection to raise, and Mike not being able to raise an objection seems to be the impetus needed for him to get that qualification and also find grounds to bring a lawsuit for the guy in charge of the bar qualifications.

And it seems that they're setting up a conflict between Mike and his boss at the legal clinic. The boss doesn't really seem to care about his clients and didn't care to argue the case himself, even knowing that the junior lawyer would probably lose.

I bet this will end up with Mike getting fired from the law clinic but realising that he could do more good helping people from Pearson Specter Litt anyway so he goes back there. And maybe that 3rd year law student might come along with him to PSL to train there too.

 

[Dark Raven]

I can see Mike getting fired from the law clinic. He seems to keep having clashes with his boss. Once he comes clean that he has brought this big law suit for the sake of being called to the bar, it's likely he'll be let go. Then he'll have to come back to work for Pearson Specter, because they're the only place that will take him.

I'm glad to see Amanda Schull showing up again. I've missed her. So she's definitely rejoined Pearson Specter as a junior partner? I hope to see more of her. How is her TV show, 12 Monkeys going? I gave up on that after a while. It was too serious, and I like more playful Katrina. She kind of reminds me of the best bits of Nicole Kidman and Naomi Watts all rolled into one.

 

[Matt]

This show is reaching ridiculous levels of stupidity in the name of restoring the status quo. The idea of a convicted felon, who was convicted for fraudulently practicing law, who has never even attended law school, being admitted to the bar is absurd. And its not without precedent that one be admitted to the bar without a formal legal education. New York is one of the few states that allows for apprenticeships in lieu of law school, but it still requires one or two years of legal education (I forget which) and then several years of apprenticeship. Just to be clear, even if this archaic practice were still used (its really not) defrauding people would not count as an apprenticeship.

 

[Kaleb]

I'm finding it more and more difficult to root for Mike.

 

[Kaleb]

Suits Spinoff Centered on Gina Torres' Jessica Eyed at USA Network

The long arm of the law is reaching back out to Gina Torres.

TVLine has learned exclusively that USA Network is quietly developing a Suits spinoff centered on former cast member Torres, whose fan-favorite character Jessica Pearson was written out of the legal drama last September

 

[terry78]

I knew someone was gonna get something out of this.

 

[Dark Raven]

Suits Spinoff Centered on Gina Torres' Jessica Eyed at USA Network

The long arm of the law is reaching back out to Gina Torres.

TVLine has learned exclusively that USA Network is quietly developing a Suits spinoff centered on former cast member Torres, whose fan-favorite character Jessica Pearson was written out of the legal drama last September

Did she go off to Chicago? I suppose it will be set there, along with that other guy who was her love interest?

Is she still going to do corporate law? I thought she wanted to get out of that to help people.

I would rather have a Suits spin-off with Amanda Schull playing her Katrina Bennett character instead of her on 12 Monkeys. She's always been more fun here.

 

[Dark Raven]

Well the season ended on a good note for once. Although it didn't end so well for Louis at all.

Mike is finally in the bar but it's coming back to work for Pearson Specter Litt. But it seems he's going to be doing the work of the clinic from there instead of what he was doing before. So he's basically just relocating the clinic to new premises. I wonder if he'll hire his boss from the clinic who fired him though, and whether he'll still be Mike's boss or will he work for Mike now instead. I guess he'll bring Oliver over and that law student too.

We'll have to wait until summer now, but I'm sure it will go quickly.

Good to see Jessica show up in the end. I think they should have kept her name out of the credits though so that it would have been a surprise. When I saw it in there in the beginning, I guessed she would show up.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

The long term ramifications of the episode probably mean it's going to be more of the same next season and it'll probably overstay its welcome but boy was it a solid hour of TV, that finale.

 

[Dark Raven]

I wonder if Season 7 will be the last season.

Meghan Markle may end up leaving the show, especially if Prince Harry proposes to her, which it's speculated that he might. She would be too busy being part of the royal family. I don't know if she would stay through to the end of the season or exit midway through. How would they handle that? Would her character be killed off? Or would Mike and Rachel split up (perhaps not even getting married)?

The season 6 finale could easily have been a series finale and it would've been a good place to end it, albeit they might have wanted to change Louis's sad ending to a happier one.

 

[X Knight]

with Legion on Wednesdays, I haven't been following this season since the 1st ep.

so, Mike passed the bar and is a real lawyer now? how?

and what sad thing happened to Louis?

 

[Dark Raven]

You could just record it and watch it. I haven't even started watching Legion yet as there have been too many shows and not enough time. I'll get round to watching it eventually.

If you haven't been following Suits, it's probably a bit complicated to explain. Probably easier to just read a recap/ review of the last episode.

As for Louis, well Tara broke up with him. Not sure if you know her character so it may not mean much. I noticed there's quite a big difference between the two men Carly Pope has been with in the series she's featured in: Oliver Queen and Louis Litt.