Utah: We Don't need no 12th grade boo-yah!

[enterthemadness]

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/02/15/Utah-eyeing-elimination-of-12th-grade/UPI-84951266255546/

lol spelling error in thread title.

 

[Franklin Richards]

We am no need w12th gradez.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I like it!

 

[imaperson2]

I agree from my experience as a senior. I didn't learn anything senior year that I hadn't in previous years. I had three electives, senior project, and English-so it was basically a bull **** year.

 

[SuperFerret]

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Lame. If anything, they should make those students that reach their total credits in high school early stay there longer, to teach them not to be that type of person.

 

[ComicChick]

people can graduate early if they've got the required credits anyways

 

[Hobgoblin]

Utah is trading its childrens education to save money? Shouldnt we be raising standards instead of lowering them?

 

[enterthemadness]

Utah is trading its childrens education to save money? Shouldnt we be raising standards instead of lowering them?

60 million of money, man.

 

[Hobgoblin]

60 million of money, man.

Its still lame.

 

[Wolfwood]

I agree from my experience as a senior. I didn't learn anything senior year that I hadn't in previous years. I had three electives, senior project, and English-so it was basically a bull **** year.

Same for me, I felt like I was killing time as a Senior. Junior year was a beeyotch though.

 

[E-Man]

It doesn't seem too bad. They're thinking about giving kids the option to be in 12th grade if they already passed their requirements. When I was in high school as a senior, we could have graduated early if we got enough credits to do so as a junior. The thing about graduating early though, was that we needed 28 credits to graduate, so it wasn't something that could be done without constant summer school.

 

[ComicChick]

i took some courses in middle school that gave me high school credits, so it's doable.

 

[E-Man]

We had courses in junior high that could give high school credit, but most people didn't take them for money or time purposes. If you had an elective you really didn't have the time to take high school courses, and on top of that you had to be approved. The honors class system in our school district really pissed me off. A teacher had to nominate you, and sometimes kids with high grades didn't get nominated for honors courses because of something personal with teachers. It was my first tussle with racism and class-ism that I could remember.

 

[bgates87]

Just to be clear, the current proposal is not to eliminate the 12th grade completely but to make it optional for students that are eligible to graduate early.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I graduated from High School early and took college classes. Schooling was required for me, but there was no need for me to take unnecessary high school classes just because they ran out of stuff to teach. Why would I need to take advanced poetry and welding just because I'd taken everything else?

Instead I was able to take almost all of my general studies classes which helped me get two degrees in the time it takes most students to drink a keg of beer and get herpes.

 

[Matt.S99]

The problem with this in my opinion is that these kids are going to be in colege too early. Hell, some if not most people at 17-18 don't know what to do 5 yrs from now, let alone for the rest of their life.

Thats why, in all honesty, I think they should still have gr 13. But actually make it count. I'm lucky enough that I do know what I want. I'm lucky that I am mature and am looking toward my future, but I know many who don't have a clue what they want to do. I think removing gr 12 would make that situation even worse. I don't know if this all works differently in the States, but I'm just going off of how it is here and what I think.

 

[Darthphere]

Awesome. I had 4 electives senior year, 4!

 

[El_Citrus]

If it's for students who already have the required credits and don't want to spend a semester on elective classes, then go ahead.

 

[Majic Walrus]

The problem with this in my opinion is that these kids are going to be in colege too early. Hell, some if not most people at 17-18 don't know what to do 5 yrs from now, let alone for the rest of their life.

Thats why, in all honesty, I think they should still have gr 13. But actually make it count. I'm lucky enough that I do know what I want. I'm lucky that I am mature and am looking toward my future, but I know many who don't have a clue what they want to do. I think removing gr 12 would make that situation even worse. I don't know if this all works differently in the States, but I'm just going off of how it is here and what I think.

Bearing in mind that this isn't "removing" grade 12 just making it optional for students that have already completed all necessary credits. Those students are already more advanced anyway.

Furthermore I have two degrees neither of which have anything to do with anything that I've ever done or want to do. And of all the friends that I have that are college graduates only ONE didn't change their major more than twice while in college and only ONE is using what they went to college for in their career field now.

Most college students haven't made any important life decisions. Really college is just High School Part Two anyway.

 

[E-Man]

I agree with the Walrus. College isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Most people really don't know what they want until after the fact.

 

[katie_girl09]

Instead I was able to take almost all of my general studies classes which helped me get two degrees in the time it takes most students to drink a keg of beer and get herpes.

And you did all of those things earlier too! What a treat!

Most college students haven't made any important life decisions. Really college is just High School Part Two anyway.

What kind of school did you go to? It definitely wasn't U of T.

 

[Manic]

My high school required 8 semesters of English, 7 semesters of History, 4 semesters of Science, 4 semesters of a Secondary Language, and 4 semesters of Math. Normally, that means you'll be done with everything except English and History at the end of your Junior year, forcing you to take 2 semesters of English and 1 semester of History your Senior year. Thing is, I took a Humanities class for History credits and a Creative Writing class for English credits. I should've been done with high school in January of my Senior year, but they wouldn't let me go.

I say if they've got all their credits down, let them leave. Senior year can be saved for the kids going to college or who need to retake a class.

 

[Majic Walrus]

And you did all of those things earlier too! What a treat!

I was done with that before I could drive.

What kind of school did you go to? It definitely wasn't U of T.

A U of T? What the heck is a U of T?

 

[Drizzle]

They have a point, though. Senior year is the year where everyone stops giving a **** because they already got into college.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I agree from my experience as a senior. I didn't learn anything senior year that I hadn't in previous years. I had three electives, senior project, and English-so it was basically a bull **** year.

This!!

My senior year I had ALL of my credits and I only needed to pass my Government test to graduate. It was literally a waste of a year. All I did was sleep in the library on the couch. Wake up for lunch. Study for Government and sleep until I had to go home. And that was like for a week in second semester. The sleep was good though.