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Discussion in 'DC Comics Films' started by Neil McCauley, Oct 25, 2020.
I'm not even sure why these two movies are being compared. What's the common ground?
Was never done anywhere
Wonder Woman, by a long shot. V For Vendetta is an excellent appearing movie that managed to completely miss the majority of the theme and subtext. Not quite as badly as Watchmen, sure, but still pretty badly.
One has double Vs, the other double Double-ues, that each too looks like double Vs, so naturally they have to meet in a vs thread. It's simple, really.
Why not? Sooner or later everything gets compared to everything on this forum. Some of the comparisons with TDK and TDKR have been pretty out there.
Which is a better film ? I honestly can't say because they are so different.
Which do I prefer ? Well, that I can answer. I'll go with V because it explores a lot of themes about our Western society and the balance between anarchy and democracy- although nowhere near as in as much depth as the source material. Its become more relevant with the rise of Trump and his fanatical supporters.
Wonder Woman has a very strong performance by the lead, enjoyable action a bit of female empowerment messaging and that's about it. It's a lot more subtle and clever with its female empowerment message than Captain Marvel IMO.
So, V gets my vote.
I really can't see the 'connecting tissue' of comparison of these two. Different inherent stories, differing budgets, differing messages, just WTF really.
You can 9 times out of 10 pick a preferred film. Nobody is asking you to find common ground. I swear the lengths people go to make things needlessly complicated at all times.
This doesn't have to be an academic analysis. Pick one and explain yourself or don't.
This is like asking me to compare BBQ to hot fudge cake. They serve different purposes. So the fact that V and WW have nothing in common aside from both being movies based on comics is very much a fair question.
That said, I like both but WW did much better in comparison to the source material. As someone mentioned above, V was missing a lot of the themes and overall poignancy of the graphic novel.
I think the question we really need to be asking ourselves is which is better... Bad Boys 2 or 13 Going on 30?
V was prophetic with its warning of neofascism and is essential viewing for anyone who values freedom and justice.
WW is an above average action flick with a weak third act.
I vote for V.
V for Vendetta.
Next up: A Clockwork Orange vs. Caddyshavk
This. People are making this this way harder than it has to be.
The only reason I can't entirely blame them is because OP does have a history of making random, terrible "vs" threads.
Yeah. If I’m being truthful, I love a good vs discussion, but when someone floods the boards with strange vs threads just for the sake of them...that’s a different animal and I probably get a little snarky
We can look at the common thread as both are stories about a character that fights to drop the figure of authority from where he/she resides:
Ares was banished from Olympus and Diana still had to fight her half brother/son of the king for the sake of freedom of mankind from the oppression of wars.
V wanted to dethrone the authority of his country because they are a oppressive dictator-ate totalitarian regime.
Don't take my comments seriously, the idea popped in my head today and I may be overreaching a bit, but my intent is to be tongue in cheek.
As ever, you bring balance to the 'debate'.
Not much, ...
but, if you...
put the two...
Z for Zorra (Zorro's black whip/Lady Zorro), the first female-lead masked super-heroine film..
Is Z for Zorra for real?
Not the name, but the movie referenced is the very real 1944 Republic film serial Zorro's Black Whip, just tongue in cheek combining the OP's two otherwise disparate films,
This is an odd comparison, but between the two, V for Vendetta—easily. There’s a richer level of substance to the themes of the film in addition to cooler action sequences. WW is honestly a very forgettable film.
V for Vendetta easily, Wonder Woman is mediocre
I was horribly bored watching Wonder Woman. It was okay, but Gadot isn't particularly interesting as a lead, and it falls off a cliff at the end.
V for Vendetta is pretty good. Seen it a couple of times. I'd go with that one.
I think there is enough going on in V for Vendetta to argue it's not missing the point, but making a slightly different one. I too think it falls short of the ideas of the book, but at the same time I don't think it's accidentally undermining itself like Watchmen did.
I Like Both.