Gotham Victoria Cartagena / Andrew S. Jones as Renee Montoya & Crispus Allen Thread

I had no idea they were regulars, so awesome!




Looks like they are borrowing more from Gotham P.D. which is great.



Although obviously a new timeline as they are more Gordon's contemporaries than his subordinates.
And they may be playing them more antagonistic.

Go to 2:37 Montoya & Allen
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Can a Specter Question spin-off be far behind?

 

I'm steeling your specefic reply into this Montoya & Allen specific Thread.

"unsympathetic, and almost antagonizing at certain scenes...but for a good purpose"

Well it could be worse, no surprise this is a new take on the characters, different universe, Gordon is the rookie so they are not working under him. They seem more the jaded vets, while it's all new to him maybe?
Hopefully they don't just end up dead , little more than character stepping stones for Gordon to play off, but actually end up as allies and regulars.
They seem to have been added as a bit of an afterthought, not featured prominently in the first round of cast promos.
Curious to see how they will be used.

 

Great! Gotham TV Podcast Exclusive: - Interview with Victoria Cartagena and Andrew Stewart-Jones.

Read transcript - http://gothamtvpodcast.com/tag/interview/

Or listen to the interview @ about min. 14:05 - http://gothamtvpodcast.com/gotham-t...andrew-stewart-jones-interview-zero-year-e15/

I was pleasantly surprised by Andrew Stewart-Jones' accent as I knew nothing about the actor, only his scene from the trailer.

Some quotes...

She's obviously a fan of the comics.

Awesome!

They also put up this pic. looks photshoped, but cool!

 

I love this team up, Victoria Cartagena & Andrew S. Jones did them justice.

I really like how the two otherwise minor characters are used, they seem like two good cops (although not without their own demons) trying to stay afloat in an already corrupt system, who have nothing but each-other's backs.

Although that may be impossible, and nothing is black and white.
Obviously they don't see what we know and we see in Gordon yet, so from their POV he's already just part of the problem. Which makes them great antagonists.

Hopefully they eventually see he's the guy they should be backing, and equally he should eventually find a way to trust and use them as allies, to accomplish what he wants from within the system..

Although that may be impossible considering....
....The not so subtle reveal between Renee Montoya and Barbara Kean
Does Gordon even know?

 

GOTHAM/Major Crimes Unit; featurette on Montoya & Allen -

Although they may also have the furthest to fall.
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Montoya is pushing way to hard. And Gordon is gona push back, I like the tension being set up here.
They have an impossible task ahead of them. My guess they won't come out of it unscathed. To bad they can't see the truth about Gordon (Yet).

Ep.3 stills-

vs. Mooney, have we seen them together yet?

Hopefully Mooney chews them up t:

 

It's hard to say how long she and Allen have been at it?
MCU keeps being discussed as a new Unit in Gotham.

And although they read as somewhat hardened, there also seems to be some real rookie naivety about them, believing they can separate themselves from the corruption, keeping their own hands clean.
They seem naively hopeful about what they think they can achieve. which reads as not having been there long.

She's definitely not the rookie cop once being molded by grizzled Gordon from the cartoon and comics though. But in this continuity Gordon is to young and rookie himself to be grooming anyone, he might find allies though. They really had to introduce her(them) differently here. And once all the cards are played Gordon may still yet serve as inspiration for them.

 

I get they had a past, but Montoya and Kean is coming off a bit stalkery x.

 

LOL they are definitely playing them as unsympathetic antagonists, though Montoya & Allen have been knee deep in the corruption. Gordon's just got his big toe in.
White Knight or not, they have zero reason to trust him at this point. And vice versa.
He definitely doesn't need them pushing and questioning his motives or allegiance. With everyone playing everyone else against each other, it's set up so you can't trust anyone.
The way Montoya is leaning (and on his girl no less), is not helping, it's hard to imagine they will ever see eye to eye.

Now with Harvey Dent being recently cast, I wonder if they will work that relationship into her past?