DaddlerTheDalek
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Maybe Egghead & Whirlwind. Taskmaster would be great too.
They could just take a leaf out of the comics and have Egghead be a disgraced nuclear scientist Pym caught selling secrets to the Soviets or terrorist which leads to Egghead developing a grudge against Pym.
It would only "ruin Janet" if it was done poorly. The movie could also flash back to one of Hank and Janet's adventures during the Cold War to punctuate the difference between her normal self and her current self that's been ruined by the Pym particles. Besides, she would be restored to her normal self by the end of the movie. The whole point of the movie, in both the text and the subtext, is bringing back Janet van Dyne.No. That would be a slap in the face for all Janet fans turning her into a villain. If you want a female villain, have the female Yellowjacket, Rita Demara. Or have her become the Red Queen, just like Darren Cross was never Yellowjacket in the comics. But don't ruin Janet.
For the record, I'm from the camp that says Iron Man 3's twist on the Mandarin is the best part of the movie. No one saw that coming. How often can we say we've been truly surprised by something in a superhero movie?It's a concept, but you risk pissing off fans of the character, and I imagine a greater outcry than when Iron Man 3 apparently "ruined" The Mandarin.
She wouldn't be evil, she would be crazy. That's an important distinction. She'd be the kind of villain who thinks she's the hero. The vigilante who takes things too far is a frequent element in superhero comics that has never really shown up in the movies.THAT SAID, I do think this would be a mistake. It would really be a slap in the face to finally give Jan her due and then just make her evil. I don't say that as a "Fans would be outraged!" thing but as a "This would be taking a dump all over the character" thing.
Ultron. Not joking.
How would you link Pym to Ultron in the wake of the Avengers film? I think a smaller Ultron film that plays on the Oedipus side of thing could have worked if a) Hank was Ultron's 'father' and b) Jan was known to Ultron so it could obsess over her. However, this would require some creativity to fit in the existing universe.
I suspect (like many others have suggested) we'll get a 'journey into mystery' for at least part of the film in which Scott and Hope, under the direction of Pym, shrink to the microverse to recue Jan. Whether there is a villain in the quantum realm, or an outside antagonist jeopordising the mission, I don't know.
I would say that Hank helped create the Ultron program that Tony Stark revives in AOU. I think the fact that Vision shut him out of the net would make him a manageable foe for Scott, Hope, and Hank as well, since Ultron would have to build everything he needs himself. Manageable, but not easy.How would you link Pym to Ultron in the wake of the Avengers film? I think a smaller Ultron film that plays on the Oedipus side of thing could have worked if a) Hank was Ultron's 'father' and b) Jan was known to Ultron so it could obsess over her. However, this would require some creativity to fit in the existing universe.
I suspect (like many others have suggested) we'll get a 'journey into mystery' for at least part of the film in which Scott and Hope, under the direction of Pym, shrink to the microverse to recue Jan. Whether there is a villain in the quantum realm, or an outside antagonist jeopordising the mission, I don't know.