Villains since 2013 - MCU vs. DCEU vs Fox

[Hammer!]

Which studio has been the best at crafting villains since 2013. Using that date since that was the birth of the DCEU and the first year post- Avengers.

MCU:
Killian/Mandarin
Malekith/Loki
Winter Soldier/Pierce
Ronan/Collector
Ultron
Yellow Jacket
Zemo/Crossbones
Dormammuu/Kaecillius
Ego/Ayesha
Vulture
Hela/Grandmaster
Killmonger/Klaw
Thanos/Black Order

DCEU:
Zod/Faora
Luthor/Doomsday
Enchantress/Joker (Jared Leto)
Ares/Ludendorff
Steppenwolf

Fox:
Silver Samurai/Viper
Trash/Sentinels
Doctor Doom (Toby Kebell)
Ajax
Apocalypse
X-24/Reavers

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

No question. Marvel by a million, billion miles.

 

[FunkMiller]

Why is this only after 2013?

Because it’s obvious Marvel wins it with that time scale.

 

[Rorschach2012]

None of the villains listed for Fox or DC have done anything for me. Such a shame what DC has done to characters I love. Not a single one of their villains have worked for me

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Why is this only after 2013?

Because it’s obvious Marvel wins it with that time scale.

It says in the original post. Because that's when the DCEU started.

 

[Pennywise]

The MCU.

 

[FunkMiller]

It says in the original post. Because that's when the DCEU started.

Yes. And that tells me all I need to know about the motives behind this thread...

We don’t need yet another MCU is better than DCEU thread... because we all know it already.

Make another poll comparing Marvel to DC villains throughout the years and see how different the votes go...

 

[Hammer!]

Why is this only after 2013?

Because it’s obvious Marvel wins it with that time scale.

Why is it obvious? Many claim Marvel has had a huge villain problem. There needs to be some cutoff point to keep a relatively manageable sample size. The birth of the DCEU and the post- Avengers landscape seems as good a spot as any. It was this time period as well that Fox decided to expand their output to FF and refocus efforts on solo X- Films.

 

[The Joker]

The MCU by a long long LONG margin.

 

[Drizzle]

Why is it obvious? Many claim Marvel has had a huge villain problem. There needs to be some cutoff point to keep a relatively manageable sample size. The birth of the DCEU and the post- Avengers landscape seems as good a spot as any. It was this time period as well that Fox decided to expand their output to FF and refocus efforts on solo X- Films.

The MCU has pretty much fixed their villain problem in recent years.

Make another poll comparing Marvel to DC villains throughout the years and see how different the votes go...

That would be more even, if we're being fair the scales wouldn't really tip one way or the other. DC has Joker (both Nicholson and Ledger), most of the Nolan Batman villains, Zod (Stamp and Shannon) to name a few. Marvel has Thanos, Loki, Killmonger, Magneto (McKellen and Fassbender), Green Goblin (Dafoe), and Doc Ock.

Neither has their shortage of bad villains, though. Eisenberg Luthor, Enchantress, Steppenwolf, any of the Batman and Robin villains, Bullseye, Doctor Doom (both versions), any of the Amazing Spider-Man 2 villains, Malekith, the list goes on and on...

 

[Hammer!]

The idea of the thread was which studio that is currently making movies has done the best job in the last five years. Not a match of has Marvel or DC had better villains on screen all-time in cinema.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Thanos, Vulture, Zemo, Winter Soldier, Pierce, Ego, Klaw and Killmonger have all been varying degrees of good to great. So yeah, them.

 

[Drizzle]

The idea of the thread was which studio that is currently making movies has done the best job in the last five years. Not a match of has Marvel or DC had better villains on screen all-time in cinema.

Yeah, but it's also almost entirely one-sided. Threads like these always devolve into the Marvel vs. DC conversation real quick.

 

[Lantern Venom]

This is an obvious choice. Marvel has always gotten undue criticism for their villains' lineup, but after Hela, Killmonger, and Thanos in succession, that should be over.

That being said, when Marvel has gone outside of their history, they've had a few notable duds. I'd put Mandarin and Zemo at the bottom of the list of worst CBM villains ever with F4s weird version of Dr. Doom and Chihuahua Luthor from BvS. Grandmaster was a letdown as well, just not as much as the others.

 

[psylockolussus]

Mcu.

 

[Hammer!]

I have held the notion that Hollywood has a villain problem in general in all sci-fi and action flicks.

 

[DACrowe]

I mean, it is a bit amusing you add the caveat "2013" so as to remove arguably all the best comic book movie villains, but yes, in this context, MCU definitely wins.

Further, after Vulture, Ego, Killmonger, and Thanos, there is no more villain problem. Phases 1 and 2 will always be open to that critique, but as a whole Marvel has corrected its problem and given us two all-timers with Killmonger and Thanos.

 

[OutOfBoose]

This one is too easy. Loki alone is better than anything from Fox and DC combined from this period.

 

[Drizzle]

This one is too easy. Loki alone is better than anything from Fox and DC combined from this period.

Only thing is, technically speaking if we're going by 2013 and beyond, Loki hasn't been a villain since 2012.

 

[Hammer!]

Magneto counts. I was doing a quick run down for context purposes, not a definitive list I’m sure I missed some others who weren’t the main bad like Doctor Poison, Surter, etc.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Only thing is, technically speaking if we're going by 2013 and beyond, Loki hasn't been a villain since 2012.

Fair enough.

 

[Boom]

Thanos alone is better than the entirety of the DCEU and Fox catalogues.