Visual Concepts: The PS3 is better at pixel rendering, physics, and PS3 2K7 > 360 2K7

[Zenien]

They also put in extra time in the motion capture studios to enhance the realism on the court, so players really had a sense of being in a game situation. In fact, Greg Thomas, the president of Visual Concepts pointed out that as they've been spending more and more time with the hardware, they've started realizing that future game titles for both the 360 and PS3 will have to have different development cycles to fully take advantage of each console's power.

Speaking of taking advantage of the PS3's power, the team has been using the computational power of the system to enhance a large number of the standard features that the game is known for. For instance, the cloth physics of jerseys and shorts has been assigned to one SPU on the PS3 instead of multiple cores on the 360 so that it can move more realistically than ever without taking away processing power for the rest of the game.

Players will be able to shoot free throws by tilting the controller back and then leaning it forward. While you can do it with minor movements, you can also hold and tilt the controller as if you were actually shooting with a basketball. - see video demonstration

Visually, the game has been taken up to a new level, particularly in how the game action is rendered. Not only have the in-game visuals been beefed up thanks to the power of the system, but according to Thomas, the way the PS3 renders pixels gives the game a richer appearance than the 360 version. It looks much more organic and lifelike, and if you thought you were watching a real game on the 360, just wait till you see it on the PS3.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/737/737118p1.html

Just like the PS2 before it really. Criterion mentioned this as well (with the PS2).

 

[Avalanche]

Now, let's see what the X-Box fans have to say...

I'm sure they'll have plenty.

 

[블라스]

Sport games suck.

 

[Avalanche]

I always say that, but whenever I play one, particularly multiplayer, I find myself getting sucked in.

 

[Galactus]

Considering how much the machine costs, wouldn't it be lame if it didn't have slightly more muscles than X360? Personally I'm not yet convinced that the differences in technology is enough to make the higher price worth it.

 

[Fran]

Wow, a thread started about PIXEL RENDERING???

The Sony fanboys have reached an all-time low...

 

[kytrigger]

Wow, a thread started about PIXEL RENDERING???

The Sony fanboys have reached an all-time low...

it's also about physics which a lot of gamers actually care about. Wow, the xbots still can't read.

 

[Fenrir]

UHH, SO? LOOKING AT THE APPARENT VISUAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE 360 AND PS3 VERSIONS OF "F.E.A.R" (FOR THE UNINFORMED, THE 360 VERSION OBVIOUSLY LOOKS BETTER) TOTALLY NEGATES ANY KIND OF SUPERIORITY THE PS3 HARDWARE MIGHT HAVE, IN MY OPINION.

OH AND IT'S AN UNDENIABLE FACT THAT THE BEST LOOKING NEXT-GEN GAMES RIGHT NOW ARE MOSTLY 360 TITLES - GEARS OF WAR, BIOSHOCK, MASS EFFECT, LOST ODYSSEY, ALAN WAKE. I'LL BELIEVE ALL THIS BABBLE ABOUT THE PS3'S INCREASED HORSEPOWER WHEN I SEE IT.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Uh, this is just worthless IGN rambling to make someone interested (obviously, the succeeded thanks to Zenien). There's really nothing technically objective about any of this.

 

[Fenrir]

Uh, this is just worthless IGN rambling to make someone interested (obviously, the succeeded thanks to Zenien). There's really nothing technically objective about any of this.

YUP, AND TO THOSE PREDICTABLE RESPONSES THAT WILL GO SOMETHING LIKE "OBVIOUSLY DEVS ARE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE 360 HARDWARE" AND ALL THAT CRAP, I SAY IF THE PS3 WAS REALLY IN FACT THAT OBVIOUSLY MORE POWERFUL THAN THE 360, WHY HASN'T ANYONE ELSE FIGURED IT OUT YET? IT'S QUITE CLEAR THAT THIS IS SIMPLY SEGA DOING THE USUAL OF ****ING THEMSELVES TO SONY MORE THAN THEY DO TO MICROSOFT.

NBA 2K7 WILL SIMPLY BE A RESULT OF THE DEVELOPER WILLING TO PUT MORE TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKE THE PS3 VERSION BETTER THAN THE 360'S. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SAID THAT IF THEY WORKED JUST AS HARD ON THE 360 VERSION THEY WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED AN EQUALLY IMPRESSIVE FINAL PRODUCT.

 

[TrailerCues]

Uh, this is just worthless IGN rambling to make someone interested (obviously, the succeeded thanks to Zenien).

If IGN posted just random crap like jkghbjkwghiwueht32yt892hyt829ut about the PS3 Zenien would get interested & excited

 

[Zenien]

Bunch of idiots...

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Bunch of idiots...

Oh yeah, well these "bunch of idiots" know something you don't: these versions are made by different teams, and the PS3 team is the more experienced. Probably picked for the PS3 because it's so much harder to develop for than the 360.

But, you know, I shouldn't have said that because it now OBLITERATES your point and the value of this thread.

Just shut up forever.

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

Whathisface totally killed us

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Whathisface totally killed us

I was going to leave it be, but Zenien had to mouth off.

But I love teh ILLZARD!!!!@@@ (you) so no worries.

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

^WTF

You love the Lizard character and me?

 

[TrailerCues]

Bunch of idiots...

Bunch of Sony Bastards...

 

[Fenrir]

Bunch of idiots...

YUP. REAL CLASSY MOVE, GIRL. I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO COMPREHEND WHAT WAS SO OFFENSIVE IN MY POST AS TO WARRANT SUCH A JUVENILE RESPONSE. PITIFUL LITTLE FANGIRL. :

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

Hahahahahaha TrailerCues






















so true

 

[Zenien]

Oh yeah, well these "bunch of idiots" know something you don't: these versions are made by different teams, and the PS3 team is the more experienced. Probably picked for the PS3 because it's so much harder to develop for than the 360.

But, you know, I shouldn't have said that because it now OBLITERATES your point and the value of this thread.

Just shut up forever.

Really? Are you sure you aren't thinking about Virtua Tennis? It doesn't obliterate anything, troll boy.

Wow, a thread started about PIXEL RENDERING???

Uh yeah, minorly important, nothing huge but it's worthy of note.

UHH, SO? LOOKING AT THE APPARENT VISUAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE 360 AND PS3 VERSIONS OF "F.E.A.R" (FOR THE UNINFORMED, THE 360 VERSION OBVIOUSLY LOOKS BETTER) TOTALLY NEGATES ANY KIND OF SUPERIORITY THE PS3 HARDWARE MIGHT HAVE, IN MY OPINION.

How about we wait and see how the games actually shape up, seeing as the FEAR team talked about having a critical shortage of tools at this point for the PS3 version. I wouldn't be suprised if they end up delaying the PS3 version, or, gasp, they release up to date screens and the games are the same. Imagine that considering we haven't seen anything new on it for some time.

OH AND IT'S AN UNDENIABLE FACT THAT THE BEST LOOKING NEXT-GEN GAMES RIGHT NOW ARE MOSTLY 360 TITLES - GEARS OF WAR, BIOSHOCK, MASS EFFECT, LOST ODYSSEY, ALAN WAKE. I'LL BELIEVE ALL THIS BABBLE ABOUT THE PS3'S INCREASED HORSEPOWER WHEN I SEE IT.

Motorstorm is a PS3 game and tons of people are saying its the best game they've ever seen, but you're right, the 360 currently probaly has the best looking games, even if I wouldn't include Gears on that list. But then again, developers minus tools + more difficult architecture = going to take longer to really work it. There has already been like 10 presentations developers have done on this. You're free to believe is disbelieve the increased horsepower (when they're actually on the same level imo) but just saying the 360 has Gears isn't the be all end all. PS3 has UT2K7, and Epic has said that Unreal3.0 is currently less optimized for the PS3 then they've optimized it for the 360. This isn';t rocket science less complete tools = less complete results. Which is going to change soon enough.

NBA 2K7 WILL SIMPLY BE A RESULT OF THE DEVELOPER WILLING TO PUT MORE TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKE THE PS3 VERSION BETTER THAN THE 360'S. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SAID THAT IF THEY WORKED JUST AS HARD ON THE 360 VERSION THEY WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED AN EQUALLY IMPRESSIVE FINAL PRODUCT.

Well the DEVELOPER has flat out said what they said (PS3 like PS2 is superior at generating the pixels, and that it's great for physics beause of the multicore nature). So sweep that under the rug if you want. But I agree, Bestheda has said that the improvements to the PS3 version of Oblivion over the PC and 360 versions is just because they took a little bit longer with it.

So the logic behind that would be if they took about the same amount of time on each, there really wouldn't be much a difference across the board.

Someone says the PS3 is better at rendering the pixels and all the sudden it's a bat**** dog pile XDF party twisting every single thing.

Take a bow, gentlemen.

 

[Fenrir]

How about we wait and see how the games actually shape up, seeing as the FEAR team talked about having a critical shortage of tools at this point for the PS3 version. I wouldn't be suprised if they end up delaying the PS3 version, or, gasp, they release up to date screens and the games are the same. Imagine that considering we haven't seen anything new on it for some time.

WHEN EXACTLY DID THE F.E.A.R TEAM TALKED ABOUT THE "CRITICAL SHORTAGE OF TOOLS" FOR THE PS3 VERSION? AND WEREN'T YOU THE ONE WHO WAS DEFENDING SONY SOMETIME AGO WHEN THWIP WAS CALLING ON THEM FOR NOT PROVIDING ADEQUATE SUPPORT TO DEVELOPERS EVEN AT THIS STAGE SO CLOSE TO THE CONSOLE'S LAUNCH?

Motorstorm is a PS3 game and tons of people are saying its the best game they've ever seen, but you're right, the 360 currently probaly has the best looking games, even if I wouldn't include Gears on that list. But then again, developers minus tools + more difficult architecture = going to take longer to really work it. There has already been like 10 presentations developers have done on this. You're free to believe is disbelieve the increased horsepower (when they're actually on the same level imo) but just saying the 360 has Gears isn't the be all end all. PS3 has UT2K7, and Epic has said that Unreal3.0 is currently less optimized for the PS3 then they've optimized it for the 360. This isn';t rocket science less complete tools = less complete results. Which is going to change soon enough.

UNTIL IT DOES FORGIVE ME FOR NOT BELIEVING ALL THE MEANINGLESS TECHNO MUMBO-JUMBO THE GAMING MEDIA IS STUFFING UP OUR COLLECTIVE ASSES. LIKE I SAID, I'LL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT.

 

[블라스]

The young Austin Powers said "Take a bow", but it was so hilarious.

 

[Zenien]

YUP. REAL CLASSY MOVE, GIRL. I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO COMPREHEND WHAT WAS SO OFFENSIVE IN MY POST AS TO WARRANT SUCH A JUVENILE RESPONSE. PITIFUL LITTLE FANGIRL. :

Awww don't be offended.

 

[Zenien]

WHEN EXACTLY DID THE F.E.A.R TEAM TALKED ABOUT THE "CRITICAL SHORTAGE OF TOOLS" FOR THE PS3 VERSION? AND WEREN'T YOU THE ONE WHO WAS DEFENDING SONY SOMETIME AGO WHEN THWIP WAS CALLING ON THEM FOR NOT PROVIDING ADEQUATE SUPPORT TO DEVELOPERS EVEN AT THIS STAGE SO CLOSE TO THE CONSOLE'S LAUNCH?

Yeah but as usual everyone missed the point because I agreed with him that Sony needs to do a better job on that. I was just talking about the relative situations to what degree it ends up harming them based on the nature of the titles.

But he couldn't wrap his head around that.

UNTIL IT DOES FORGIVE ME FOR NOT BELIEVING ALL THE MEANINGLESS TECHNO MUMBO-JUMBO THE GAMING MEDIA IS STUFFING UP OUR COLLECTIVE ASSES. LIKE I SAID, I'LL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT.

The tool situation will improve, that's all I just said. Though I am going to comment here that it's funny that some people believe that there is this pro Sony media as it were when vast majority of Sony news and opinions int he gaming media have beem negative as of late, and I guess any single positive impression could ten fold more then the 10 negative opinions?

Just something to think about.

 

[Fenrir]

Awww don't be offended.

THANKS. I'LL MAKE IT A POINT NOT TO ENGAGE IN ANY CIVIL DISCOURSE WITH YOU HENCEFORTH. THWIP AND WHF ARE RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT WORTHY OF THE LUXURY OF AN INTELLIGENT, HONEST DEBATE AND HENCE, DESERVE EVERY BIT OF THE CONFRONTATIONAL RESPONSES YOU GET. :