Volume 2 set years after 1?(Theory)

[Omega214]

Just a theory.

If new york IS destroyed, which i think it will based on the theory that isaacs drawings are never wrong, then maybe volume 2 is set years after the final battle.

Volume 2 could be set in the time period where Hiro and Ando jumped too in Parasite, with all the construction.

i personally think it could be done well.

what do you guys think?

 

[GL1]

Booyah. Awesomeness.

Heh...

 

[Primal Slayer]

well at the beginning of Season2, Hiro is going to be in another time anyway, so part of it will be set a few years ahead/behind until Hiro comes back to the present.

 

[Eddie Brock]

i think it will definitely occur after the bomb, but how far is really the question...

 

[Katsuro]

With Hiro and Ando rumored to be spending an entire episode 5 years in the future, one of two things has to happen.

1) The future they visit is an alternate future, and Hiro and Ando are able to go back and drastically change it. Or:

2) The future they visit is going to happen regardless of what anyone does, and season 2 will start from that point.

There's no way they'd show us the future, then go right back to the current timeline. We'd know everything that was gonna happen. Who'll die, who'll live. So either the future they visit can, and will, be changed, or the show will be permantently jumping ahead pretty soon.

I personally like the idea of jumping ahead 5 years. Blow up New York proving that Isaac's paintings cannot be changed, then of course kill Isaac so we can stop worrying about all that crap.

 

[Caliber]

With Hiro and Ando rumored to be spending an entire episode 5 years in the future, one of two things has to happen.

1) The future they visit is an alternate future, and Hiro and Ando are able to go back and drastically change it. Or:

2) The future they visit is going to happen regardless of what anyone does, and season 2 will start from that point.

There's no way they'd show us the future, then go right back to the current timeline. We'd know everything that was gonna happen. Who'll die, who'll live. So either the future they visit can, and will, be changed, or the show will be permantently jumping ahead pretty soon.

I personally like the idea of jumping ahead 5 years. Blow up New York proving that Isaac's paintings cannot be changed, then of course kill Isaac so we can stop worrying about all that crap.

It looks like this a big chance to see if they can stop it. Maybe only a small part of New York gets destroyed and someone still explodes.

 

[CyberFaust]

ne won't know anything even if this happens, the show is verry verry well writen, it's it's biggest card for fracks sake

 

[Katsuro]

It looks like this a big chance to see if they can stop it. Maybe only a small part of New York gets destroyed and someone still explodes.

Well, the thing about Isaac, at least so far, is that his paintings, as we see them, literally always come true. There could be something hidden to them, like how it was Peter's shadow running up to help Claire and not Sylar's running to kill her (he was just a bit behind Peter), or how Peter did die after falling off the roof, only to regenerate. But regardless of that, what we see is what will happen, in some way.

So what we do know is that a nuclear bomb will go off in New York, and that it will be caused by an exploding man. We dont know that it'll be Peter, since his dreams aren't nearly as literal as Isaac's paintings. And by going off of Isaac's paintings, Hiro's first visit to the future, and Hiro's latest visit to the future, it's safe to say the destruction to New York will be pretty damn big.

 

[GL1]

There's no way they'd show us the future, then go right back to the current timeline. We'd know everything that was gonna happen. Who'll die, who'll live. So either the future they visit can, and will, be changed, or the show will be permantently jumping ahead pretty soon.

Well, the thing about Isaac, at least so far, is that his paintings, as we see them, literally always come true. There could be something hidden to them, like how it was Peter's shadow running up to help Claire and not Sylar's running to kill her (he was just a bit behind Peter), or how Peter did die after falling off the roof, only to regenerate. But regardless of that, what we see is what will happen, in some way.

So what we do know is that a nuclear bomb will go off in New York, and that it will be caused by an exploding man. We dont know that it'll be Peter, since his dreams aren't nearly as literal as Isaac's paintings. And by going off of Isaac's paintings, Hiro's first visit to the future, and Hiro's latest visit to the future, it's safe to say the destruction to New York will be pretty damn big.

A few points:

Just because we know SOMETHING about the future doesn't mean we know EVERYTHING, or that certain parts of it can't be changed. We already know that Hiro can change timelines (Pictures being altered at Charlie's diner), so seeing the future will allow him to change everything but Isaac's paintings.

And to clairfy some semantics... Isaac paints a shadow, it's the viewer who decides who's shadow it might be and fate who tells who's shadow it really is. There is nothing 'hidden' about the paintings, they all happen exactly as we see... the paintings never say 'Peter will not come back to life' or 'The dinosaur is alive' they are simply images that will always happen.

And finally, we DON'T know that the nuclear explosion will actually be caused by an exploding man...

Though I honestly can't imagine it not being so...

 

[Omega214]

i hope it gets destroyed.

as for isaac, i was talking to my friend who owns a comic book store about isaac and we came up with the idea that the new shapeshifter will turn into isaac to lure sylar out and then get killed him in isaacs form.

Then not only will sylar be able to shapeshift, but also it would continue the pattern of isaacs paintings not being as they seem.

 

[Katsuro]

i hope it gets destroyed.

as for isaac, i was talking to my friend who owns a comic book store about isaac and we came up with the idea that the new shapeshifter will turn into isaac to lure sylar out and then get killed him in isaacs form.

Then not only will sylar be able to shapeshift, but also it would continue the pattern of isaacs paintings not being as they seem.

I'm personally hoping Isaac just dies. I was never a huge fan of him in the first place, but now his character really has no where else to go, that is once New York is destroyed.

His paintings were a huge part of the plot for almost all of season 1, I think it's time to retire this whole painting-the-future deal. Besides, once New York is destroyed, the realization that Isaac's paintings cannot be changed will finally hit, so his power will be pretty pointless.

 

[bulok]

something I was considering was that it's not actually all of NY that gets destroyed but a few buildings owned by HRG's "The Company", which is destroyed by the Heroes after they've evacuated the area. Just a thought. Maybe that's why in Peter's vision, Nathan just smiles at him almost nonchalantly.

I think that the explosion will be perpetrated in part by Linderman, probably to do damage to The Company and that it will somehow propel Nathan's political career.

 

[Mrh7448]

It's hard to see them destroying all of New York as that would eliminate a good portion of the characters that exist there. Nathan, Peter, Claude, Isaac, Mama Petrelli, Claire, The Haitian (if they stay) etc. If they killed off characters like that I would probably would stop watching since they took the time to build them up.

Besides Isaacs pictures come true but our notions of what actually happens are different. Like Peter lying dead under the sign and the dinosaur. Now with an illusionist becoming involved in the show these preconceived notions of what we think is what is really going to happen and what is actually going to happen is going to change.

 

[Ma1o]

Maybe Linderman Want NY to Explode so he can rebuild it and this will help nathan maybe become president by showing how good he was able to handle things after the explosion. those are just my thoughts.

 

[Omega214]

not bad for a new guy

Welcome to the hype!

 

[Katsuro]

It's hard to see them destroying all of New York as that would eliminate a good portion of the characters that exist there. Nathan, Peter, Claude, Isaac, Mama Petrelli, Claire, The Haitian (if they stay) etc. If they killed off characters like that I would probably would stop watching since they took the time to build them up.

Most of those characters seem to have survived, in what litle we saw of the future Hiro and Ando visit. We know Hiro survives, and Peter seems to survive as future Hiro mentions his scar. Nathan is probably gonna become President (a painting in Linderman's collection shows him in the White House) and the previews seem to show an older Claire. As for Claude, he's obviously getting out of New York.

That just leaves Isaac, who's probably dead anyways, and Mama Petrelli and the Haitian. And of course, since they're with Claire right now, it's not hard to imagine if she could escape it, so could they (unless of course Claire is powerful enough to withstand a nuclear explosion, which i'm not so sure of).

 

[kedrell]

There is another possibility regarding "the bomb in NYC". Issac's paintings(which are never wrong, presumeably) don't show when it will occur, only that it will occur. All of our when comes from Hiro having journeyed there. But we also know that Hiro changes things with regards to the future he visited(such as Ando not being at work to receive Hiro's phone call) and that is the main thing that distinguishes Hiro's ability with regards to the future as opposed to Issac's. But Hiro can travel in time and now we know he can take other's with him. It is possible that the NYC Issac sees destroyed is the NYC of some distant future that Hiro may take the bomb/person to in order to save the present NYC. The NYC that blows up could be 1000 years from now when the city is just an ancient ruin like Rome or Luxor.