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Discussion in 'MCU Limited Series on Disney+' started by flickchick85, Jan 22, 2021.
If hydra implanted false memories, maybe Wanda and Pietro weren't actually siblings but lovers.
At this point I'd say Wanda is pretty straight forward the villain here. She's imprisoning these people to enact her fantasy. She seriously injured the Shield agent she ejected from that space. And not to mention taking any agency away from Vision, by consistently rewriting reality whenever he questions things too much.
Now it isn't shocking how things have gotten to this point. Wanda has lost a lot over the years. And having so much power makes it easy to give into her impulses. Harder to do the right thing when just abusing her power is easy and makes her feel better. She can keep this dream going.
She's a tragic villain right now considering her losses. But she's definitely a villain at the moment. Those people are living in fear even if they can't consciously understand why.
Now it will be interesting to see where things go from here. Can Vision both figure out what is going on and try to deal with it? All the more difficult since if Wanda realizes any suspicion on his part...she's hitting that reset button.
What might save Wanda is not being the only villain. If she's being manipulated in some way or influenced by another villain then they can turn this on them and give Wanda a chance to redeem herself.
In regards to whether Vision is real and alive, I think back to Endgame when Cap went back in time to place each of the Infinity Stones to where they were and how it will lead up the eventual creation of Vision. Considering the Avengers defeated 2014 version of Thanos, wouldn’t that mean that Vision never died in the new timeline hence he could be real in WandaVision?
Didn't he take it from when the Mind Stone was still in the scepter so it got replaced exactly where it was left off to then go to Vision and then to be ripped from his head?
"Changing the past doesn't change the future." -Hulk
But Vision could have been "ripped" from an alternate timeline to this one with Wanda.
Even though I read that quote from Jac Schaeffer saying she didn't want to do a "lazy" story about a woman who can't handle her powers and goes crazy, and even though I know Wanda won't turn out to be the villain in the end, I still kind of know how you feel.
House of M was such a bad story for Wanda and has so little to do with her (she's barely in it and every "fact" it gives about her character is inaccurate) that it's painful to see th show playing with that idea and wanting viewers to think she's the villain.
I wouldn't be surprised if they end an episode making it look like she's actually killed someone, since the first two episodes had her unconsciously using violence and the third episode ended with her consciously throwing the SWORD agent out, but unhurt. The next step is to show her seemingly doing something she can't come back from.
I don't think they're wrong to do this, as long as they make her a hero in the end. I just will probably enjoy it more when it's over or at least when she breaks free of her own illusion or they reveal who or what is trying to get her to have children.
Anyway, the good things are that it's actually Wanda's story, which House of M was absolutely not. Hopefully it also puts to rest all the speculation of whether Magneto will be her father (please, no).
Probably because Speed will be inheriting his powers from his dad, Vision. And NOT from his uncle, Quicksilver.
Didn't the stone get stolen by the Loki from the 2012 timeline during Avengers: Endgame?
That was the tesseract, the space stone.
That was the space stone, which required them to take it from even earlier in time. But the point is, they returned it exactly where they left it so those events could play out as they had previously. Obviously, there's a timeline where the Space Stone was never returned to Asgard because Loki has it (we'll see where it goes from there, though).
I actually am curious to see how that plays out in Loki. I mean, on the surface level, the Time Variance Authority would seem to be unnecessary, since its impossible to change time, you just swap yourself to an alternate timeline that ( at least implicitly ) already always existed. Thus, no actual variances, just different and weirder preexisting parallels. OTOH, its not too difficult to imagine that there are boundaries and special cases wherein sufficiently knowledgeable or enthusiastic mischief could cause real cosmic harm. . . or perhaps simply that any parallel timeline that would end in cosmic doom? Doesn't, because it was interrupted by the TVA, and always was, with the TVA's existence and actions being part of said immutable temporal destiny.
I imagine it boils down to "Does every possible alternate timeline exist, or only those ones which actually, in the end, happen?"
From the trailer when it showed Wanda and Vision dancing together while in 70s clothes, that didn't appear at all in this episode. In fact there seem quite a few shots not featured, almost as if they were shot just for the trailer.
I think it was probably shot as one of the scenes from the opening credits, intended to be in one of those hexagons.
Best episode so far. 8 out of 10.
Ok now we are talking. Had a few laughs during the episode which went pretty quick and the last third really brought the gods. I like Wanda’s twitches when things don’t go to plan. This whole thing makes me think about a series called “Under The Dome”.
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