Was Batman a killer in Burton Bat movies?

[Two-Face]

Batman was like Frank Miller's or Bob Kane's Batman became through alive in Tim Burton's Batman. In Batman where Jack is holding up to DK but just slips away into chemicals but did DK drop Jack on purpose? Sure Joker blames Batman for that near end scenes.

In Batman Returns when DK enters the Gotham City and after he turns Batmobile then blasts off that devil looking guy. On another scene where he saves Selina Kyle.

What I mean is was he a killer in Burton's Batman movies?

Sorry if I piss anyone off.

 

[XCharlieX]

This is true. Burtons Batman didnt seek out killing, but if the job got deadly enough he would.

But the chemicals thing i found to be an accident.

 

[Mee]

He dropped a bomb in Joker's hideout, he strapped dynomite to a guy, he threw a guy down off the bell-tower, etc. etc. He was a killer. But I think Finger/Kane's Batman was a major influence on Burton's movies, so it makes sense.

 

[Bat Attack]

He killed a few people. So yeah, he was a killer.

 

[batmaluco]

He dropped a bomb in Joker's hideout, he strapped dynomite to a guy, he threw a guy down off the bell-tower, etc. etc. He was a killer. But I think Finger/Kane's Batman was a major influence on Burton's movies, so it makes sense.

Yes.

 

[cryptic name]

he was killer, but not a murderer

 

[Qoèlet]

he was killer, but not a murderer

So it's lawful to enter a factory full of people and blow it up with them in it? Fascinating.

On another note, that one picture with Batman using his "choking gas" on Jabah is misleading. In this scene, Batman doesn't actually kill his opponent. His choking gas has a misleading name in that it is nonlethal. But yeah, he killed people all the time in any case.

 

[cryptic name]

he doesn't go out with the intent to kill. in batman returns, he didn't leave the cave that night thinking "you know what i want to do? blow up a fat man!"

 

[XCharlieX]

lol Yup

So it's lawful to enter a factory full of people and blow it up with them in it? Fascinating.

Well when the factory is being used to distribute chemicals that kill thousands in the city, how else would he have done it? Ask them to leave?

 

[El Payaso]

Yes he was.

 

[mister Lennon]

First time in my life, i agree with payaso. Yes, he was a killer.

 

[the_scream]

I prefer Batman not to kill anyone intentionally. I didn't like it when he shot at the Joker with rockets and machine guns in the Batwing. Not only was it cowardly but he had the opportunity to capture the Joker. He also did not have to shoot the grappling hook that killed the Joker. That was intentional - to kill him rather than let him get away. And the police don't question it. They just praise this vigilante who has just murdered the Joker and his goons.

 

[Two-Face]

I prefer Batman not to kill anyone intentionally. I didn't like it when he shot at the Joker with rockets and machine guns in the Batwing. Not only was it cowardly but he had the opportunity to capture the Joker. He also did not have to shoot the grappling hook that killed the Joker. That was intentional - to kill him rather than let him get away. And the police don't question it. They just praise this vigilante who has just murdered the Joker and his goons.

Yet more reason why Batman should have stopped and capture Joker instead but more to the point Burton's Batman was Kane/Finger's Dark Knight.

 

[Merkel]

Not to mention that the Batwing shooting scene was pretty stupid, since Batman didn't even get one shot right.

I hate it when I see machine guns in toy Batman veichles.

 

[Two-Face]

Not to mention that the Batwing shooting scene was pretty stupid, since Batman didn't even get one shot right.

I hate it when I see machine guns in toy Batman veichles.

What about the Batmobile where he uses his machine gun to blow up the Ace Chemcial?

 

[Lex Luthor]

Not to mention that the Batwing shooting scene was pretty stupid, since Batman didn't even get one shot right.

I hate it when I see machine guns in toy Batman veichles.

I seem to remember him firing at The Joker's henchmen, with a decent amount being hit. It's just his aim at The Joker was very much off.

 

[XCharlieX]

Many of these suggestions would ruin that film straight up. If these happened i proably wouldnt be on these boards.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Batman was like Frank Miller's or Bob Kane's Batman became through alive in Tim Burton's Batman. In Batman where Jack is holding up to DK but just slips away into chemicals but did DK drop Jack on purpose? Sure Joker blames Batman for that near end scenes.

In Batman Returns when DK enters the Gotham City and after he turns Batmobile then blasts off that devil looking guy. On another scene where he saves Selina Kyle.

What I mean is was he a killer in Burton's Batman movies?

Sorry if I piss anyone off.

Burton's movies are mainly based on the very early Batman stories, in which Batman would kill criminals (or giant brutes). In 1940, Whitney Ellsworth, DC editor at the time, decided that Batman should never again use a gun or kill anybody. The last time Batman kills is in Batman #1.

 

[El Payaso]

Not to mention that the Batwing shooting scene was pretty stupid, since Batman didn't even get one shot right.

???

I saw he blew the whole Joker's parade vehicle, not to mention he was able to catch every balloon in one attempt.

What about the Batmobile where he uses his machine gun to blow up the Ace Chemcial?

Yes, what about it?

Not only was it cowardly but he had the opportunity to capture the Joker.

Capture him for what? To bring him to the cops? The corrupt good for nothing Gotham's cops? That would be like fishing a fish and then throwing it back to the sea.

The whole idea of becoming Batman - in B89 - was not to follow the official rules and procedures since it's that what doesn't work at all in Gotham.

He also did not have to shoot the grappling hook that killed the Joker.

???

The grappling hook killed Joker? Wrong, it was a way to merely prevent him to escape. What killed Joker was the fact that the gargoyle broke and became too much weight for him.

That was intentional - to kill him rather than let him get away.

How could that be intentional? Did Batman know the gargoyle was going to break? No.

I admit Batman was determined to kill Joker ("I'm gonna kill you") but he didn't kill him directly. Joker just had bad luck with that gargoyle.

And the police don't question it. They just praise this vigilante who has just murdered the Joker and his goons.

The corrupt good for nothing Gotham's cops?

 

[Rexi]

yes, batman was in fact a sadistic murderer. watch the movies, he kills most of the red triangle gang and the thugs in the chemical factory.

 

[Bat Attack]

he kills most of the red triangle gang

EEEEEE! Wrong. He only killed two members of the Red Triangle Gang, the guy he burned with the exaust and the one he straped the dynamite to (although we never saw either of them actually die).

 

[El Payaso]

Why do you assume the devil guy died? He didn't die, he ran away. And being the streeets totally covered in snow he shouldn't have had many problems putting out the fire.

 

[XCharlieX]

lol how else was he to get by that large dude that felt no pain? Hed be there for hours while the town gets looted, and that was exactly his plan, being the last guy before penguin.

 

[Two-Face]

Why do you assume the devil guy died? He didn't die, he ran away. And being the streeets totally covered in snow he shouldn't have had many problems putting out the fire.

That's funny HAHAHA! he rolls on the floor few times.

 

[Bat Attack]

Well Payaso is right, we never see them actually DIE.