Superman Returns Was it really THAT bad?

[Super Kal]

you mean like cinematography?

 

[Cyrusbales]

you mean like cinematography?

Like direction, a director and cinematographer are quite different indeed.

 

[Super Kal]

i really didn't care about the direction

 

[Cyrusbales]

And that is the route of problem for mainstream audience's of cinema, they simply don't care.

 

[Super Kal]

I'm still not fully understanding what you mean by direction...

if you mean the actual direction, all I saw was a man trying to copy a 20 yr. old movie, and fail at it.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Direction, use of camera, in terms of how it moves, the angles, and everything in the shots, also editing, but including the juxtapoisitioning within shots and between them.

 

[Super Kal]

i thought it was below average up to the point of NK... with NK, the camera angles and shots were done really well and made me feel like I was watching a comic book come to life.

everything after NK...

that's probably one f the only thigns I can comment on positively about the movie

 

[Cyrusbales]

I found the whole direction superb throughout, it's miles different from "Superman:The Movie", because we do not associate or identify with Superman, but we are with the normal people, looking up to him, but also concerned about him as we don't know where he's been etc etc. Which is why people bring in the stalker problem, where we know there is nothing to it, but the notion is there because we are not with superman as such, we see him as a mystery, also explaining why we don't see what happened in space etc.

Muchg superior direction than almost all superhero films.

 

[Super Kal]

depends on who you ask

 

[SuperDaniel]

Soles of the boots? I'll have to check it. Using the 'pause' button so my eye can catch that.

Thats the point. There WAS no NEED for S everywhere in the costume so this was just an example of another BAD decision Singer made it. If he didnt authorize S all over the costume, why did the sole of the boots had it? Doesnt it cost more money to make it?

 

[El Payaso]

Thats the point. There WAS no NEED for S everywhere in the costume so this was just an example of another BAD decision Singer made it.

Huh? How is it bad decision exactly?

Is it bad the brick pattern all over Spiderman suit? As in the Superman's suit, the pattern all over is supposed to give it an interesting texture. Was it necessary? Who cares when it looks good? Specially when no one can see it's S's unless you go into superhero sites and watch pics of it. It doesn't affect the movie.

If he didnt authorize S all over the costume, why did the sole of the boots had it? Doesnt it cost more money to make it?

The actual question is who cares about an S symbol no one can actually see.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

whatever changes were in X2, it wasn't noticeable enough for me to care...

and I STILL think that having him on the sequel is a mistake. Small changes are not gonna be enough to save this franchise IMO

Well the X-Jet, Cyclops visor and Storms accent were very easily noticable.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I found the whole direction superb throughout, it's miles different from "Superman:The Movie", because we do not associate or identify with Superman, but we are with the normal people, looking up to him, but also concerned about him as we don't know where he's been etc etc. Which is why people bring in the stalker problem, where we know there is nothing to it, but the notion is there because we are not with superman as such, we see him as a mystery, also explaining why we don't see what happened in space etc.

Muchg superior direction than almost all superhero films.

Agreed, but i also found that we could relate to this Superman as well, even when we were 'looking up' to him so to speak. It was like we could relate to a god figure and thats an aspect of the movie I love.

 

[Angeloz]

I did a week ago

I should of been specific I mean under your username perhaps. So people will know as a suggestion. It's nice to know it's you (though your avatar gives a clue).

Angeloz

 

[Super Kal]

lol, i mean, I really haven't changed my sig at all ...

 

[Suzi_Jazz]

I think a lot of people were just overly-critical. I liked it because of the graphics and Kevin Spacey's Lex Luthor. He actually made me laugh at times. The direction was good too. I just would have made the story more action-packed that's all.

 

[Super Kal]

and not such a blatant ripoff of STM...

btw, welcome to SHH ... or should I say welcome back?

 

[Mr. Socko]

I don't see any actual complaints of the DIRECTION from Singer in this thread. Mostly it's the writting and production design people have qualm swith, no-one has commented on direction.

I thought you were the film-deity of the hype?

Surely you realize the director is to oversee the entire production of a film. If the writing and production design is poor, the director is half to blame, if not more. Part of the direction is choosing a good script, picking good designs. If you can't do that, then your direction is poor.

Direction, use of camera, in terms of how it moves, the angles, and everything in the shots, also editing, but including the juxtapoisitioning within shots and between them.

If only good camera use guaranteed a brilliant film...if only!

 

[Porygon]

and not such a blatant ripoff of STM...

btw, welcome to SHH ... or should I say welcome back?

What, are you going to accuse everyone of having another identity?

 

[Angeloz]

What, are you going to accuse everyone of having another identity?

Naughty has anyone told buggs of this (he likes to find Saph)?

Angeloz

 

[Porygon]

Naughty has anyone told buggs of this (he likes to find Saph)?

Angeloz

It's really sad, IMO. Suzi_Jazz makes a positive comment and they start a lynch mob

 

[El Payaso]

You know... I might be Saph....

dun dun duuuuun

 

[Angeloz]

Where was Saph from?

Angeloz

 

[Super Kal]

What, are you going to accuse everyone of having another identity?

dude.. not everything evolves around the Superman forum.

do some lurking in the SHH community forum for once.

 

[Super Kal]

It's really sad, IMO. Suzi_Jazz makes a positive comment and they start a lynch mob

and you don't think that ever happens with people who hate the film?...

do yourself a favor and wake up. Try and see both perspectives of this argument, and you'll see that both sides get crap from one another. Don't sit there and play innocent.

and suzi has every right to make a positive comment about the movie. I may not agree with all of it, but I respect her enough to let her speak her mind openly and not insult her for it.