The Dark Knight Was the part showing Batman capturing Lau necessary??

[I_am_the_knight]

Many people who are now dissecting Tdk point out that the scene of Batman going abroad to capture Lau was unnecessary and just added to the length of the movie...

Now I wont get into the importance of having a big action set piece or pacing or any of those other things...I just find it odd that some of the people who wanted to omit the Lau scene are in the same camp who want a detailed reason for the Joker leaving the penthouse after confronting batman....

If they had just shown Lau tied up at the front of the police station people would demand some sort of explanation for it...


I personally love that part of the movie, the intro established how far above the curb the joker operates...showing Batmans elaborate capture of Lau highlights how far Batman is capable of going and justifies why the mob feels the need to enlist someone like the joker.

 

[TheGeoff]

The only place where I read it was unnecessary was Chud. I disagree with Chud, I think it wads necessary and don't think it dragged at all.

 

[RKO]

Necessary or not, wasn't that scene badass enough to stay in there?

 

[Luchastyle]

i also find the scene necessary in establishing the scope of the movie. it shows batman using gadgets, which people complain he didn't have enough of. it does show the lengths he will go to, and it also sets up several other plots points for the rest of the movie. i felt that the pacing was fine and it didn't unnecessarily add to the length of the movie.

 

[PyroChamber]

I thought it was a good way of showing Batman doing things outside of Gotham, which we haven't seen in any of the movies.

 

[SimpleTastes]

Cool hand to hand Batman fighting, Bruce Wayne taking photos, major glass breaking, flying, foreign languages, pretty birds, and Morgan Freeman being super-cool.
It was needed.

 

[JaD]

I thought it was a good way of showing Batman doing things outside of Gotham, which we haven't seen in any of the movies.

I was glad to see them explore something like this, very bold actually.

 

[TomPiltoff]

While there are certainly other ways of going about things, I like that the Lau sequence is so fleshed out. It really shows the massive potential of Gordon, Batman and Dent working together.

 

[millennium movies]

It's quite crucial to the plot and just shows how Batman's the only one who can go outside the norm of what the cops and such are able to.

 

[Deadshot59]

Completely necessary and badass, how could anyone say otherwise?

 

[chintai80]

it's quite crucial to the plot and just shows how batman's the only one who can go outside the norm of what the cops and such are able to.

qft.

 

[raynorWilm]

Not only did I think it was necessary, but it also is one of my favorite scenes in the film...especially in IMAX.

 

[CFE]

Yes

CFE

 

[Paradyme]

In no way was it pointless.

 

[November Rain]

it wasn't necessary but it was cool to see the sky hook in action and see the lengths bats would go to in order to help gotham. it goes hand in hand with his ability to work outside of the law and also covering up dent's death.

I'm not particularly interested in seeing the joker leave the party, rather seeing bruce wayne re-introduced to the party as a coward hiding in a panic room by himself in order to alienate him from the idea of being batman. They haven't quite covered his ability to mix his dual identities yet.

 

[November Rain]

Completely necessary and badass, how could anyone say otherwise?

again, although necessary, they did take up a considerable amount of time showing him trying to figure out what to do and setting it all up.

 

[JoeCat]

I think it was completely relevant. The plotting, planning, and execution. It verified exactly what The Joker says in the beginning; Batman has no jurisdiction.

 

[JoeCat]

Completely necessary and badass, how could anyone say otherwise?

agreeable point

 

[chamber-music]

It's quite crucial to the plot and just shows how Batman's the only one who can go outside the norm of what the cops and such are able to.

agreed

 

[Anjow1060]

the only scene that didn't really need to be there was scarecrows capture.

It's just the badass way to introduce Batman into the movie. Thus why it was so short.

Everything else was needed. And I would have sacrificed the Joker leaving the party 10000 times over if it meant Nolan would hold on some shots a little longer. And maybe, oh idk, show Bruce's face and not the back of his head in what should have been the most emotional scene in the movie.


...but that's just me.

- Jow

 

[Boom]

In the shooting draft, yeah, the scene was necessary.

Could it have been written differently to be less time-consuming? Sure.

 

[Ekricket]

Hmmm, this whole thread sums up an issue that has bothered me a bit, and Bats actions here typify it. Batman hates crime, he hates criminals who prey on the weak - yet he is beyond the rules and has utter contempt for their effect on him. For him, the end justifies the means, and that is not much different than what Joker thinks. Witness Batman riding his motorcycle through glass storefronts, blowing up cars and buidings that get in his way (other peoples personal property), blowing buildings apart to KIDNAP a criminal out of a country he has no jurisdiction in, employing drug runners to fly his airplane, I mean c'mon the only difference between him and the criminals he pursues is that he does not have to steal the money he needs to run his Batman life - and even then he probably does, cheating on his taxes, keeping phony books, shady accounting, etc.....

I mean if you described Joker and Batman - utter disregard for rules, destruction of property, kidnapping, conspiracy to commit same, assault, tax evasion, clinically insane - You can't tell which one I am talking about, the description is interchangeble between the two.

 

[Jokers_Wild]

Wow, if this scene had been cut, you would've never heard the end of it! Batman capturing a criminal in Gotham is very different from capturing a criminal overseas.
People would've complained and griped about the impossibility of Batman capturing Lau in HK, and that they didn't include the scene because they couldn't think of a plausible situation, and it's a plot-hole, etc, etc....blah, blah, blah

I'm glad we have it in the movie! It kicks ass!