WGA, SAG-AFTRA Strike Thread

[Sawyer]

The DGA:

Spoiler

What was the DGA vote turnout when they accepted their deal? Because I have to imagine whoever voted against it are pissed, and those that voted for might feel… foolish, to say the least.

 

[TheVileOne]

What was the DGA vote turnout when they accepted their deal? Because I have to imagine whoever voted against it are pissed, and those that voted for might feel… foolish, to say the least.

41% of the DGA turned out to vote on the deal. Of the voter turnout, 87% voted in favor of the new deal.

For another example, for SAG-AFTRA, 47% of the members voted regarding the strike authorization. Of that group, 98% voted in favor of the strike.

 

[Kon]

What was the DGA vote turnout when they accepted their deal? Because I have to imagine whoever voted against it are pissed, and those that voted for might feel… foolish, to say the least.

I don't think DGA members would be so angry. The biggest benefits in the WGA contract are especifically for writers (for example: the writers rooms).

WGA deal got 5%/4%/3.5% raises and 76% foreign residual increase, which are exactly the same than DGA.

The bonus for residuals (if a show get 20% of the streaming service audience) and a stronger protection from A.I. are the biggest advantage over DGA deal in issues they share. However, these benefits are mainly for long term. DGA will likely demand these benefits in its new contract in three years, since the WGA has set the precedent.

 

[Stringer]

Well done.

 

[Filmfreak]

I'm so happy that it is official today and that they got almost everything they've fought for! Studios are desperate. I think they've realised now their bluffs don't work. They have more to lose and they lack the upper hand. So hopefully the same will happen with SAG-AFTRA sooner rather than later.

 

[dhandler01]

I don't think DGA members would be so angry. The biggest benefits in the WGA contract are especifically for writers (for example: the writers rooms).

WGA deal got 5%/4%/3.5% raises and 76% foreign residual increase, which are exactly the same than DGA.

The bonus for residuals (if a show get 20% of the streaming service audience) and a stronger protection from A.I. are the biggest advantage over DGA deal in issues they share. However, these benefits are mainly for long term. DGA will likely demand these benefits in its new contract in three years, since the WGA has set the precedent.

The DGA got no guarantees on AI in any way and there other non-monetary issues they got literally nothing on. Sure they upped their pay but they made it easier for studios to find ways to replace them or "re-classify" them to mess with their status and pay. The days leading up to the DGA vote there was directors tweeting about it and how leadership screwed them.

 

[Invader Joker]

The DGA got no guarantees on AI in any way and there other non-monetary issues they got literally nothing on. Sure they upped their pay but they made it easier for studios to find ways to replace them or "re-classify" them to mess with their status and pay. The days leading up to the DGA vote there was directors tweeting about it and how leadership screwed them.

I reaaaally doubt that within the next 3 years AI technology will even be remotely close to good enough to replace directors. It really isn't an immediate worry for them.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Kon]

The DGA got no guarantees on AI in any way and there other non-monetary issues they got literally nothing on. Sure they upped their pay but they made it easier for studios to find ways to replace them or "re-classify" them to mess with their status and pay. The days leading up to the DGA vote there was directors tweeting about it and how leadership screwed them.

The DGA contract is for three years. It's extremely unlikely AI can advance so quickly in that period of time as to replace directors.

In three years, the DGA could demand protection from AI for their new contracts, since the WGA set the precedent.

It was important that WGA and SAG fight for protections against AI, because the studios would want to abuse from it.

 

[Drizzle]

 

[Lily Adler]

The DGA:

Spoiler

****ing traitors.

 

[dhandler01]

I reaaaally doubt that within the next 3 years AI technology will even be remotely close to good enough to replace directors. It really isn't an immediate worry for them.

I think you are underestimating it. Some DGA members found proof they are already using episodes of TV to teach AI programs how to do episodic/sitcom programming. It won't take much.

And in the next contract it will be too late.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Seen this joke a lot but I think it undersells how effective forcing her and the other shows to reverse course was to get the AMTP to finally realize they couldn't break the strike.

 

[Drizzle]

Seen this joke a lot but I think it undersells how effective forcing her and the other shows to reverse course was to get the AMTP to finally realize they couldn't break the strike.

I noticed that too. I figured it couldn't be coincidence that an agreement happened so soon after the backlash against her. She was the sacrificial lamb, so to speak. But honestly? I think she can be forgiven. She made a mistake and she owned up to it.

These CEOs like Iger and Zaslav on the other hand? Not that it matters to them but their reputations are forever tarnished from this after making completely evil and unnecessary comments disparaging the WGA and SAG members.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

For audiences, the AI restrictions is the big thing. While it is nice that they are getting paid, and I certainly am with them for trying to get at least a living wage, that doesn't really impact that end product that gets to us that much. A bunch of crappy AI written shows and movies definitely would. I hate to seem selfish in that regard of it being of what I was most focused on, but it looks like a nightmarish situation for the entire entertainment industry maybe on the verge of being avoided.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I noticed that too. I figured it couldn't be coincidence that an agreement happened so soon after the backlash against her. She was the sacrificial lamb, so to speak. But honestly? I think she can be forgiven. She made a mistake and she owned up to it.

These CEOs like Iger and Zaslav on the other hand? Not that it matters to them but their reputations are forever tarnished from this after making completely evil and unnecessary comments disparaging the WGA and SAG members.

Yeah, I'm absolutely open for reconciliation. Ultimately, she made the right call. And it's no coincidence IMO that the guinea pigs the studios pressured into returning first were women (excluding Maher, who's just the worst in general). The big name, headlining dudes were all shielded from the potential backlash.

But yeah, we already knew Zaslav was ****, and hopefully no one forgets Iger going mask-off, either.

 

[Kon]

I think you are underestimating it. Some DGA members found proof they are already using episodes of TV to teach AI programs how to do episodic/sitcom programming. It won't take much.

And in the next contract it will be too late.

I think you may be worrying too much.

Even the current DGA contract has some protections about AI, even if these aren't so strong.

Also, studios could want to train AI to make episodic sitcoms, but I don't think they could reach their goal in three years.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

This will get done soon. The studios didn't bend over for the WGA just to still have nothing made with the actors out.

 

[Invader Joker]

I think you are underestimating it. Some DGA members found proof they are already using episodes of TV to teach AI programs how to do episodic/sitcom programming. It won't take much.

And in the next contract it will be too late.

But that's screenwriting though? I mean an AI can't literally be there on a set.

 

[Sawyer]

These CEOs like Iger and Zaslav on the other hand? Not that it matters to them but their reputations are forever tarnished from this after making completely evil and unnecessary comments disparaging the WGA and SAG members.

I want good things for Warner Bros, but I really hope this thing has been a massive ****ing headache for Zaslav and convinces him to **** off sooner rather than later.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Sawyer]

I’m glad the strikes are nearly over, but anyone else think we should kinda keep that information from the SNL people for a little while longer? Like, even with the prior work stoppage, I feel like we could use a break.

 

[Arachnerd]

For god's sake.