Iron Man What Didn't You Like?

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So was there anything you guys DIDN'T like in this?
 
yes the suit didn't resemble the comics much...

RDJ's performance left much to be desired for and the film had far too much action
 
Stuff that bugged me:

-Not totally convinced by Tony's epiphany & decision to change his ways after being in captivity. Felt rushed.

-Basically the thing that really cements the decision to become Iron Man in his mind is the news footage of the village destroyed by his bombs. Then he goes there and never really connects with the people he went there to help in any personal way. I would have liked to see more of that to give it some emotional depth.

-The Iron Monger fight at the end, no emotional weight or pay-off to that fight. Not that invested in that duel. It's that famous Shakespeare quote from Macbeth & the same problem I had with last year's 'Transformers' movie: 'Full of sound & fury, signifying nothing.'

-Much of the seemed derivative of other earlier Marvel films: i.e.:
The direct rip-off of the freezing/falling jet scene from Hulk '03.

-Iron Monger battle looks eerily similar to the scene from Hulk '08 teaser trailer--hope they don't repeat themselves again and Hulk gets the blame.

-Took too long to clearly define Stark's motivations and to give an explanation of what exactly he planned on doing with the suit once he built it. Not until he donned the Mark III and Tony watching the newscast about the village did we finally get to see what he was actually going to do with the suit to stop evil in the world.

-The leaps he makes in handling the suit seemed rather easy.

-The generic, dumb as a box-o-rocks, cookie-cutter terrorist villains who didn't know Tony wasn't really building their missile until it was too late, even though they were watching him the whole time on a video camera.

-The chest plate being pulled out making him weak? didn't understand that. Shouldn't removing that have killed him instantly, not made him weaker since the electro-magnet was keeping the schrapnel from entering his heart?

-The flight in the suit scenes sometimes not filmed so well. SR suffered the same fate.

-It wanted to straddle the line between camp and seriousness and I'm not sure it was entirely successful trying to walk that line. It came off as confused and schizophrenic at times to me.

-I think the movie is generally overrated, good but not great, IMO.
 
Stuff that bugged me:

-Not totally convinced by Tony's epiphany & decision to change his ways after being in captivity. Felt rushed.

-Basically the thing that really cements the decision to become Iron Man in his mind is the news footage of the village destroyed by his bombs. Then he goes there and never really connects with the people he went there to help in any personal way. I would have liked to see more of that to give it some emotional depth.

-The Iron Monger fight at the end, no emotional weight or pay-off to that fight. Not that invested in that duel. It's that famous Shakespeare quote from Macbeth & the same problem I had with last's years's 'Transformers' movie: 'Full of sound & fury, signifying nothing.'

-Much of the seemed derivative of other earlier Marvel films: i.e.:
The direct rip-off of the freezing/falling jet scene from Hulk '03.

-Iron Monger battle looks eerily similar to the scene from Hulk '08 teaser trailer--hope they don't repeat themselves again and Hulk gets the blame.

-Took too long to clearly define Stark's motivations and to give an explanation of what exactly he planned on doing with the suit once he built it. Not until he donned the Mark III and Tony watching the newscast about the village did we finally get to see what he was actually going to do with the suit to stop evil in the world.

-The leaps he makes in handling the suit seemed rather easy.

-The generic, dumb as a box-o-rocks, cookie-cutter terrorist villains who didn't know Tony wasn't really building their missile until it was too late, even though they were watching him the whole time on a video camera.

-The chest plate being pulled out making him weak? didn't understand that. Shouldn't removing that have killed him instantly, not made him weaker since the electro-magnet was keeping the schrapnel from entering his heart?

-The flight in the suit scenes sometimes not filmed so well. SR suffered the same fate.

-It wanted to straddle the line between camp and seriousness and I'm not sure it was entirely successful trying to walk that line. It came off as confused and schizophrenic at times to me.

-I think the movie is generally OVERRATED,
good but not great, IMO.

Overrated,it's far from that actually. Spiderman 1 and 2 are overrated IMO. My problem and very big problem with Iron Man is that the mark 2 looks like the mark 3 but without being red and gold,and the fact that it has one other difference being that it can freeze up at a specific height. Some more thought should have been put into it(the mark 2),they should have made it more War Machine like to make the next time baby part an even better fitting nod.
 
There's not much I didn't like about the movie. I thought it was good all the way around.
 
1.) The sound mix fell apart in a few places. The dialogue needed to be clear at all times, yet there were points where that just wasn't the case.

2.) Tony jets off into the air in the Mark I, crash lands largely destroying the armour and yet walks away with only minor bumps and bruises. A human body taking an impact like that would have been a bit of a mess in reality. Cerebral contusions as the brain squashes around inside the skull would be a killer.

3.) The climax of the battle became Iron Monger versus the reactor explosion. Ok, I admit that having Tony dream up the solution and having Pepper carry out the action was probably appropriate to the Stark character using his intellect to overcome the weapon, but I might have expected more "becoming the hero" for a better finale. Something like thinking up the reactor overload, then manoeuvring the Iron Monger into harm's way and damaging it. Having a bit more of an epic slugfest and finally finding a chink in the armour by which to separate Stane and the suit, giving Iron Man the opportunity to drag Stane out and bring him to justice.
 
Stark's 'transformation' was never believable. It was like the director thought 'alright, I know this is gonna happen, the audience knows this is gonna happen, let's just get it over with as quickly as possible.'

There was a lot I liked about this film, but in that department Batman Begins felt far more... organic. Bruce Wayne's decision to actually become a superhero seemed far more logical because it had been built up fr better.
 
well i can understand the directors dicision yes everyone knows it but stilll whit batman begins it felt to long really,
iron man was short ok but still long enough you know what i mean?
they had a fight planned iron man vs iron monger, so yes it must quickly done
i like the movie how it is now
i can't believe theres a better movie then this one..
 
I wouldn't have minded seeing more Mark III action. That's about it.
 
A more iconic score(though Dwadji did a fine job), and more realistic consequences of the terrorist's violence. I mean seriously, that humvee should have beed covered in Jimmy's blood. Here's hoping an unrated version is released eventually on DVD. Other than that, no real complaints at all. Great ****in' movie! :up:
 
It came to an end. :csad:

....But on such a high note! :woot:
 
This movie was a breathe of fresh air with a superhero who doesn't just brood all the time ie Batman, Spider-Man, and Wolverine. I just think that one bit of constructive critisim (always hated that phrase) is that I think that the overall dialoge could have been just a little more fine tuned. But overall I think it is the most socially relevant superhero movie ever. That and X2 are up there fighting for the best superhero movie of all time imo.
 
Not too much. The only things I didn't like were:

-Gwyneth Paltrow's performance. She just didn't look like she wanted to be there at all.

-Everything was way too technologically advanced. Jarvis I can deal with, but the scene where Tony was putting data into a holographic recycle bin had me rolling my eyes.

-The battle with Iron Monger was way too short.

Other than that, I loved it.
 
i didnt like that tony had gold and titanium in hes house for the M3.
i didnt like that the suit was build in 5 hours.
nothing big. small complaints.
 
The transformation was rushed but I realize they had to gloss over the emotion a little to get to the rest of the story.

They might have created a more resounding feeling had we seen Tony watching the weapons kill more people. Or maybe pump up the measure of his patriotic 'Stark bless America... and no place else" attitude with a few additional scenes.

But even so, the movie just works.

Originally Posted by Drizzle
Not too much. The only things I didn't like were:

-Gwyneth Paltrow's performance. She just didn't look like she wanted to be there at all.

-Everything was way too technologically advanced. Jarvis I can deal with, but the scene where Tony was putting data into a holographic recycle bin had me rolling my eyes.

-The battle with Iron Monger was way too short.

Other than that, I loved it.
Isn't she the one that moved to Europe because she feels America is just too... much?

Anywho, I kept thinking how much better she looked than Kirsten did as MJ in Spiderman.
 
-battle with iron monger was to short. (needed another 5min or so)
-paltrow was inconsistent, some scenes she was good, in others not so much
-his transformation into a superhero wasn't very indepth (see bruces transformation in batman begins)

thats about it, i don't want to nit pick. it was still a good movie
 
Gwyneth Paltrow's performance. She just didn't look like she wanted to be there at all
I thought Paltrow gave a great performance. Her role turned out to be alot better than i thought it would.
 
I thought Paltrow gave a great performance. Her role turned out to be alot better than i thought it would.

I thought she did great as well, and her scenes with RDJ were full of chemistry and these two played off each other very well.
 
Uh...all I can think of is that I wished the battle between Ironman and Iron Monger was longer. I loved seeing two mechanically inclined characters duking it out with each other.
 
Wait a minute. I need to correct myself. Gwyneth was okay in the romantic scenes with RDJ. What bothered me was the end scene where she encountered Iron Monger. It's like she was sleepwalking through that part of the movie.
 
yes the suit didn't resemble the comics much...

far too much action


Far TOO much action?!

Are you being sarcastic? It wasn't the weepy eyed wus fest that the Spider-Mans have been.
 
-The chest plate being pulled out making him weak? didn't understand that. Shouldn't removing that have killed him instantly, not made him weaker since the electro-magnet was keeping the schrapnel from entering his heart?

Yes and no.

The "Walking dead" as yinsen wound would have about a week for the shrapnel to enter his heart and kill him. Obviously without the magnet he's in a ton of pain. Plus in the scene where stane pulled out the magnet, he also paralyzed him for 15 minutes. I understood the scene as he was trying to get to the old magnet before the paralysis had worn off.
 
The Mark Steven Johnson Effect. Favreau/the writers don't quite seem to know when to hold themselves back when what they want to do would adversely affect the tone of a given moment. Things like his "cartoon crash landing" in the desert, the final battle's dialogue...serve to detract from the film a bit.

Casting big names may have lessened the impact of some of the characters, like Pepper Potts, Rhodes, etc.
 
My biggest problem with the film is actually the same with Tony Stark as a charcter: he's such a frickin' womanizer.

I knew that from reading some of the comics, and I commend the filmmakers for not getting too explicit, but Tony bedding the reporter, and the drunken stewardesses with the rising pole from the floor was overkill for me. I'm glad they chose to not have Tony use Pepper for his own gain. It shows he's really changing into a better person.
 
The only thing I really didn't like in this movie was the landing in the desert. Favs could have shot that so that it didn't look like such a devastating (read: fatal) crash, but he chose to go with the comedic effect instead. That's the only decision of his that I adamantly disagree with.
 

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