what do you thank is one thing Dragon ball GT got right.

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i thought it was entertaning in the long run but,with plenty of dumb parts.

fav part: tie last 3 dragons,and baby vegita vs ss4 goku.
hated: Pan useless
 
nothing really. All of GT is a joke pretty much.


Wait I guess there are two things....1.The animation is of much better quality! I remember looking back on DBZ there were some REALLY UGLY animations. 2. They finally put Vegeta and Goku back on even terms together but I don't really care about that either.
 
Some good AMV's came from the fight and transformation scenes, and it was decently animated. I disliked the show itself tho lol.

Oh, and who can forget links to Pan hentai on every other site :woot:.
 
one thing was gogeta, they really showed he was pretty much at an unfathomable power level...

I wished they would have made him less cocky and more of a serious fighter though. I wished a fused being in the mythos was at least pushed to its limits in battle but i guess that was kinda the point of them, to make them incredibly powerful....

I think they also nailed bebi pretty much, a villain wanting revenge for what the saiyans did to their homeworld, all great motivation and he would saiyans themselves in order to cause their demise. all very good, bebi vegeta was a great villain but i wished that bebi vegeta had gotten through the oozaru stage and we could see goku and vegeta go all out and duke properly on the planet sufil and watch them completely anihilate it....without any of this recharging bollocks and watch some seriously great fighting...

I think super 17 was also a great concept that was cheapened, I think goku should have lost to 17, 17 was never his main adversary, he had a closer connection to trunks, i think they missed a perfect opportunity to see another return of future trunks and have him merge with present timeline trunks to have a fused trunks going up against a super 17. That would have been truelly amazing.

bits and bobs, but really the other characters got destroyed and it became the goku show which was a shame, certainly didn't like what they did with piccolo, who should have probably done some merging with pikon, (or at least we shoudl have seen them fighting) to bring them back into play powerwise...

animation wasn't that much better than late gt, best animation was during the cell saga in my eyes, in began to regress and become lazy afterwards (neglecting films of course which were mostly always a high quality (at least the later ones)).
 
nothing really. All of GT is a joke pretty much.


Wait I guess there are two things....1.The animation is of much better quality! I remember looking back on DBZ there were some REALLY UGLY animations. 2. They finally put Vegeta and Goku back on even terms together but I don't really care about that either.

I agree completely.

I found it to be worse.:dry:

One thing it got right was ending it.

The thing that pissed me off bad was no Piccolo.
 
Well let's see:

Bad things:
-The removed chou Gohan's potential-reach abillity.
-They overpowered some characters.
-The Dragon's power varied immensly, from weaker than Pan to stronger -than SSJ4 Goku.
-They didn't use potara for the last fusion.
-There wasent so many threats, like I'll destroy the planet/solar system/galaxy.
-They based the whole thing around Goku, which made it hard to find any other characters that were interesting.
-They copyed the old themes just reversed them
Shenron saga - Fruiza saga (hunt for the Dragonball's, Xing Shenron looked a lot like Fruiza, with an exception for the horns)
Super 17 saga - Cyborg/Cell saga (Fight an unstopable cyborg, which has gained power by absorbing/mergin with an other)
Bebi saga - Boo saga (Take over the victims bodies)
-Goku turning into a child
-They removed the fighting spirit, no more interesting fights.

Good things
- Ehh, hmm ... It was only 64 episodes!
 
^I agree.

The only good thing about GT was the fact that it was another DB show to watch. The animation was better, but it still sucked ass...
 
I don't know if it got anything right. It was generic crap through and through.
 
Well let's see:

Bad things:
-The removed chou Gohan's potential-reach abillity.
-They overpowered some characters.
-The Dragon's power varied immensly, from weaker than Pan to stronger -than SSJ4 Goku.
-They didn't use potara for the last fusion.
-There wasent so many threats, like I'll destroy the planet/solar system/galaxy.
-They based the whole thing around Goku, which made it hard to find any other characters that were interesting.
-They copyed the old themes just reversed them
Shenron saga - Fruiza saga (hunt for the Dragonball's, Xing Shenron looked a lot like Fruiza, with an exception for the horns)
Super 17 saga - Cyborg/Cell saga (Fight an unstopable cyborg, which has gained power by absorbing/mergin with an other)
Bebi saga - Boo saga (Take over the victims bodies)
-Goku turning into a child
-They removed the fighting spirit, no more interesting fights.

Good things
- Ehh, hmm ... It was only 64 episodes!
:woot: You have said EVERYTHING I myself was thinking. Yeah, Gohan was the biggest disappointment to me. It was lame that he lost his Grand Kaio-shin power up, but at least we know that GT is noncanon. :o And for the love of God, Super Saiya-Jin 3 should have been the ultimate stage, and not that lame looking pink panther stage.
 
SSJ4 is what made SSJ seem generic, IMO.

- We have SSJ, which is the main base form that people fight in.
- Ok, it gets a bit harder, so let's turn into SSJ2. That's cool and all, but we need to be just a bit more powerful.
- Ok, let's go to the ultimate stage, SSJ3. Alright, cool. Only 2 of us can do it, and it is so powerful that we only have a certain amount of time to use it. Also, it drains us completely when we are done.

*GT trolls along*

Oh damn, let's go SSJ4 and completely forget about SSJ 1-3. F** all of that shyit.

If anything, people making fun of DBZ because of "powering up all of the time" had to be SSJ4. Because of that stage, it made transformations generic and also made the SSJ 1-3 pointless. It made Goku SO MUCH more powerful than anyone else (very stupid) and made Vegeta look like a b!tch trying to get to it. (A b!tch move)
 
Animation was better. Vegeta got to be the same as Goku (with help of a machine) but my favorite, every villian released from hell to come to earth and wreak havoc! That should've been GT. Everything else was dissapointing. I mean, they had a chance to have the first girl super sayin...wait..to..go.
 
Animation was better. Vegeta got to be the same as Goku (with help of a machine) but my favorite, every villian released from hell to come to earth and wreak havoc! That should've been GT. Everything else was dissapointing. I mean, they had a chance to have the first girl super sayin...wait..to..go.

That summed up my reason for disliking GT. Even the excuse of "quarter Saiya-jin diluted the blood..." couldn't save it.
 
That summed up my reason for disliking GT. Even the excuse of "quarter Saiya-jin diluted the blood..." couldn't save it.

Well the excuse...."I didn't have a female SSJ cause I didn't know how to draw it" did it for me. Hey Toei.......how about just making her hair Gold and her eyes Green dumbasses!
 
Please tell me you're joking? If that was an actual excuse, someone deserved to be shot. Several dozen times. Resurrected. And have the process repeated again.
 
SSJ4 is what made SSJ seem generic, IMO.

- We have SSJ, which is the main base form that people fight in.
- Ok, it gets a bit harder, so let's turn into SSJ2. That's cool and all, but we need to be just a bit more powerful.
- Ok, let's go to the ultimate stage, SSJ3. Alright, cool. Only 2 of us can do it, and it is so powerful that we only have a certain amount of time to use it. Also, it drains us completely when we are done.

*GT trolls along*

Oh damn, let's go SSJ4 and completely forget about SSJ 1-3. F** all of that shyit.

If anything, people making fun of DBZ because of "powering up all of the time" had to be SSJ4. Because of that stage, it made transformations generic and also made the SSJ 1-3 pointless. It made Goku SO MUCH more powerful than anyone else (very stupid) and made Vegeta look like a b!tch trying to get to it. (A b!tch move)

That was one of my cardinal complaints. It was like, why the hell train, just ascend to the next fricking level and decimate them with ease, since they're just going to kill you without it anyway. Every character had to work (and sure, they worked too) but it was just...the same fricking sequence.

Hard boss, every minor character nearly dies, or dies, and Goku comes along. Goku fights for a while, realizes he can't beat them, "digs deep" and hits the next level. Fight over, begin next arc in same. Exact. Fashion. Or at least, it felt like that.

If it did go past the Frieza saga, they should've kept it with SSJ being the only level, and using it was definitely a trump card of only last resort due to energy consumption or something like SSJ3's aftereffects. The addition of more and more and more levels just made it bland as hell.
 
I enjoyed some of the action of GT. I don't hate GT, but they are a few things I hate about it.

Pretty much these:

- Piccolo stays in Hell
- Majin Buu disappears early in the series...
- Gohan is a pansy
- Goku beats everyone! I mean, at least let another character win! Like, say, Vegeta or Goten! Hell, make Mr. Satan kill someone! That would be good.
- Baby was not my cup of tea...
- Only the last half was cool.
 
Wait?! GT got something right?
Well, I guess SSJ4 looks cool, even though it doesn't ressemble the other ssj forms in anyway. I actually think its one of the coolest looking ssj forms actually.
But lets look at everything they got wrong.
-power level inconsistancies. Between Uub being weaker than SSJ Goku to Basekid Goku being stronger than a SSJ4 in certain moments.
-everybody is like 1000 times weaker. Seriously. The dbzs SSJ1 Goku seemed stronger than GTs SSJ4 version.
-Plotholes. There are several. From Emperor Pilaf being alive to Pan playing with a 7yearold Goten and 8 year old trunks to Cooler existing.
-Chou Gohan and SSJ2= non existant.Booo:o
-Vegeta cutting his hair. double booooo:o
-The dbz battles are 1000 times better. GT battles suck, save for Gogeta vs Shenron.
I think those are my primary concerns.

Please tell me you're joking? If that was an actual excuse, someone deserved to be shot. Several dozen times. Resurrected. And have the process repeated again.
Yes, that really is the excuse. No joking.
 
That was one of my cardinal complaints. It was like, why the hell train, just ascend to the next fricking level and decimate them with ease, since they're just going to kill you without it anyway. Every character had to work (and sure, they worked too) but it was just...the same fricking sequence.

Hard boss, every minor character nearly dies, or dies, and Goku comes along. Goku fights for a while, realizes he can't beat them, "digs deep" and hits the next level. Fight over, begin next arc in same. Exact. Fashion. Or at least, it felt like that.

If it did go past the Frieza saga, they should've kept it with SSJ being the only level, and using it was definitely a trump card of only last resort due to energy consumption or something like SSJ3's aftereffects. The addition of more and more and more levels just made it bland as hell.

I totally agree.
So generic.

We saw SSJ2, ok. Cool. But I'll give it to Toriyama because he also wanted to end at Cell Games.
Then we get another one. SSJ3 if anything should've ABSOLUTELY been the last form.
Yet, we get stupid ass SSJ4.
 
I totally agree.
So generic.

We saw SSJ2, ok. Cool. But I'll give it to Toriyama because he also wanted to end at Cell Games.
Then we get another one. SSJ3 if anything should've ABSOLUTELY been the last form.
Yet, we get stupid ass SSJ4.

Not to count it just utterly made no sense in the way they jumped from 3-4. With the normal SS form it was a difficult transformation. It also took a long while to master, the energy it consumed was pretty enormous and Goku had to force himself and Gohan to stay in that form to get used to it. Then at Cell games Gohan achieved the second form, but Vegeta still hadn't mastered the 1st form like Gohan and Goku had, and 2 was entirely new.

Then the time jump happens and Goku and Vegeta have achieved the second form, but still haven't mastered it. The form probably still consumes large amounts of energy, even worse than the 1st forms, and Gohan hasn't progressed at all. Goku's third form increased his strength and speed dramatically, but still seemed to be in it's infant stage. It drained him so completely he couldn't stay in it long, and it was a desperation transformation.

GT comes along and they all stay in the first form and never use the second from what I can tell. SSJ3 seems like a waste as Goku did as well in his normal state against bebi if not better than the 3rd form. Heck they didn't explore that form at all. Then he achieves this fourth form which doesn't resemble any part of the previous ones, but it's not an energy burner in the least, seems to have absolutely no downsides, and yet (like stated above) sometimes seems weaker than a normal form Goku or Pan.

Gluon hit it on the head, the series basically blanded out any meaning the transformations held, and took away any downsides which made them a desperation move that upped the excitment. Which fits in perfect with the straw that broke the camels back statement, the 4th form was just the one that became too much.
 
Not to count it just utterly made no sense in the way they jumped from 3-4. With the normal SS form it was a difficult transformation. It also took a long while to master, the energy it consumed was pretty enormous and Goku had to force himself and Gohan to stay in that form to get used to it. Then at Cell games Gohan achieved the second form, but Vegeta still hadn't mastered the 1st form like Gohan and Goku had, and 2 was entirely new.

Then the time jump happens and Goku and Vegeta have achieved the second form, but still haven't mastered it. The form probably still consumes large amounts of energy, even worse than the 1st forms, and Gohan hasn't progressed at all. Goku's third form increased his strength and speed dramatically, but still seemed to be in it's infant stage. It drained him so completely he couldn't stay in it long, and it was a desperation transformation.

GT comes along and they all stay in the first form and never use the second from what I can tell. SSJ3 seems like a waste as Goku did as well in his normal state against bebi if not better than the 3rd form. Heck they didn't explore that form at all. Then he achieves this fourth form which doesn't resemble any part of the previous ones, but it's not an energy burner in the least, seems to have absolutely no downsides, and yet (like stated above) sometimes seems weaker than a normal form Goku or Pan.

Gluon hit it on the head, the series basically blanded out any meaning the transformations held, and took away any downsides which made them a desperation move that upped the excitment. Which fits in perfect with the straw that broke the camels back statement, the 4th form was just the one that became too much.
PERFECT POST! HOT DAMN !:woot:
 
PERFECT POST! HOT DAMN !:woot:

Lol, thanks. Personally I don't mind if a series slips from continuity, but it needs to be entertaining. GT just seemed to downplay any urgency which dulled the fight scenes. After that everything just seemed to be more of the same. I mean sure it was more dragonball to the fans, but it wasn't good dragonball, it was just using the name and characters and not retaining much else.
 
...you know, Super 17 Saga could've been the best saga in all of Dragon Ball.
I had hope when Vegeta killed Nappa again. I lost it all when (Base :whatever:) Kid Goku beat Frieza and Cell in Hell.
 

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