What does Hulk director think of Ghost rider?

[Demon Within]

I ask this question hoping he almost doesnt like it. For all the F/X and whatnot GR lacked creativity when it came to the plot and visual representation of main villains. Basically GR was a popcorn flick, nothing more.

Is this the same route LL wants to go with Hulk?

 

[Demon Within]

So no one is questioning if this is the direction Hulk is going?

 

[Octoberist]

if it does go down the same route, then I would be dissapointed.

 

[blind_fury]

MSJ is a cornball.

I expect far better from LL.

 

[Demon Within]

I hope it doesnt go the GR route which is why im interested in LL thoughts on the movie. Does he see it as a good movie an acceptable with all its cliche everything an cornball villains? Or does he see the major flaws where they are an hopes to not make any of those mistakes, to do something creative an in depth even tho the source is a comic book?

I liken it to sin city/300. Graphic novels, yes but they could have easily said "not realistic enough" or "audience wont understand the visual direction" an gone an done something very sucky. Instead they stuck very very close to the roots and took a gamble the audience didnt need to understant the whole picture of why to enjoy the movie.

 

[Advanced Dark]

This is a Marvel studios film and Louis said look at Unleashed to sense the style or tone we should expect. I think that film was awesome.

 

[Sava]

This is a Marvel studios film and Louis said look at Unleashed to sense the style or tone we should expect. I think that film was awesome.

apparently alot of others didnt, i'm one of them, great fight sequenses but thats it, it had great potential.

 

[Advanced Dark]

I'm sure you'd like it if it had a Hulk story centered around it. The critics liked it which suprised me. Well put it this way more liked it than didn't which was odd for this kind of film. The whole Bo Hoskins thing was kind of weird but the Jet Li character was kind of like The Hulk in a way not physical but chained rage. A monster waiting to come out and does at times.

 

[SpaghettiHULK]

This is a Marvel studios film and Louis said look at Unleashed to sense the style or tone we should expect. I think that film was awesome.

I agree! I'm a real Louis Leterrier admirer! Since 2002, since the first time I saw "The Transporter"!
PS: I prefer the alternative title for "Unleashed": Danny The Dog(in my country this is the title). It is better, it is awesom!

 

[Sava]

I'm sure you'd like it if it had a Hulk story centered around it. The critics liked it which suprised me. Well put it this way more liked it than didn't which was odd for this kind of film. The whole Bo Hoskins thing was kind of weird but the Jet Li character was kind of like The Hulk in a way not physical but chained rage. A monster waiting to come out and does at times.

yeah, Unleashed was sorta like Hulk. The movie wasnt s**t, it was good and in some parts great IMO but not overall. The visual side of it would work great with Hulk and the fights were amazing. Hope he uses those guys for this. I'm just saying that Unleashed had the chance to be totally amazing, andit missed that by a long way. Then again, thats just me.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I liked Unleashed way more than the Hulk. I think LL can make a decent Hulk film if the script is good.

 

[The Kid]

Sava you can vouch for me since you understand what it was like to defend Ang lee's hulk. Isn't GR what people wanted hulk to be. Wasn't all the whining and moaning about how seriously ang took the hulk. People wanted a more fun lighter movie, right?

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ahhh, good to get that out of my system...

 

[Sava]

havent seen you here in a while man, how are you?

 

[Caliber]

I ask this question hoping he almost doesnt like it. For all the F/X and whatnot GR lacked creativity when it came to the plot and visual representation of main villains. Basically GR was a popcorn flick, nothing more.

Is this the same route LL wants to go with Hulk?

Of course that going to be the route of this Hulk. From the beginning, it sounded like a dumb action film. Ghost Rider was great but LL wants to sound smart.

 

[jaguarr]

Sava you can vouch for me since you understand what it was like to defend Ang lee's hulk. Isn't GR what people wanted hulk to be. Wasn't all the whining and moaning about how seriously ang took the hulk. People wanted a more fun lighter movie, right?

MAKE

UP

YOUR

DAMN

MINDS

PEOPLE



ahhh, good to get that out of my system...

Not at all, from my perspective. Ghost Rider is a great flick as far as visuals go, but it's scripted like an empty video game. The fights are weak, the main villain is lame, and the character arcs and relationship development are nonexistent. Nothing has weight in that film and the whole portion of the GR mythos about Johnny Blaze being a tortured soul who takes a grave mistake from his youth and turning it into something he can use to fight for the people he cares about is completely missed. The psychology of the character is all wrong; Blaze is not supposed to ENJOY being the Ghost Rider. Much in the same way Banner is absolutely tortured about the demon that lurks inside of him; the way he tries to always keep himself contained and on an even keel so that it can't get out, even though it obviously eats him away from the inside. The way he has to sometimes let it out in order to stop something even more evil and damaging than the Hulk that's inside of him, and how he beats himself up over having to do that. About being unable to control it. The writing on GR lacked depth and clarity and did nothing to give meaning to the actions of it's characters. That is not something I want to see happen to The Hulk.

Lee completely missed the psychology of The Hulk the first time around. He also seemed more focused on the visuals and it was only the strength of his casting that took a mediocre script and gave it any sort of life. But the comic book style transitions became tiresome, and the whole "Hulk Dad" thing was just lame (to say nothing of Hulk Poodles). To me, Lee didn't fully respect the source material and that's where he went wrong.

jag

 

[The Kid]

havent seen you here in a while man, how are you?

Not so bad, taking life one day at a time.

Just so you know, Jaquarr, you didn't type all that out for nothing. I've read all of it and think it's all pretty valid. Hopefully the sequels fix all the mistakes.

 

[jaguarr]

Not so bad, taking life one day at a time.

Just so you know, Jaquarr, you didn't type all that out for nothing. I've read all of it and think it's all pretty valid. Hopefully the sequels fix all the mistakes.

I hope so, too, man. I hope so, too. That'd make me a happy Hulk fan.

jag

 

[Cracker Jack]

Lee completely missed the psychology of The Hulk the first time around. He also seemed more focused on the visuals and it was only the strength of his casting that took a mediocre script and gave it any sort of life. But the comic book style transitions became tiresome, and the whole "Hulk Dad" thing was just lame (to say nothing of Hulk Poodles). To me, Lee didn't fully respect the source material and that's where he went wrong.

jag

100% correct. The biggest (no pun) problem was the story which was a mess. It took the idea of the Hulk and turned it every which way and changed what is at the core of the Hulk. A man haunted by his inner demon and the inner demon wanting to find his place, understand his place in the world. The struggle between man, after his ignorance, his egotistical self worth, unleashes his polar opposite. A who cares about nothing but himself and his work realizes that there are more important things in life besides his work.

 

[zanos]

Wait this is the same guy who did Transporter and unleashed? I gotta say that I have absolutely no regrets about boycotting marvel films.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Zanos...then why don't you boycott the Marvel films forums and leave. You don't like the films and we don't like you.

 

[Danger Mouse]

Diamondhead, personal insults are not tolerated in a discussion environment. Please watch yourself.

 

[Caliber]

Wait this is the same guy who did Transporter and unleashed? I gotta say that I have absolutely no regrets about boycotting marvel films.

Not all of them are bad but this one is going to be bad.

 

[Nivek]

Sava you can vouch for me since you understand what it was like to defend Ang lee's hulk. Isn't GR what people wanted hulk to be. Wasn't all the whining and moaning about how seriously ang took the hulk. People wanted a more fun lighter movie, right?

MAKE

UP

YOUR

DAMN

MINDS

PEOPLE



ahhh, good to get that out of my system...

It's not the matter of (stupid) people making up their minds, it's up to the people writing the checks to bankroll this film need to hear LOUD AND CLEAR.

No one likes fluff. If this flick is the same tone as Danny the Dog/Unleashed then great. If it is anything as contrived as frigging Ghost Rider, just end it here and now and let this movie slip into Development Hell.

 

[Nivek]

I agree! I'm a real Louis Leterrier admirer! Since 2002, since the first time I saw "The Transporter"!

He directed Transporter 2, not the first one.

 

[UltimateJustin]

He directed Transporter 2, not the first one.

That wasnt even close to an acceptable movie. I did like Unleashed.

I dont have a problem with the direction Ang Lee TRIED to take the Hulk movie in, I just think he failed.

I liked the movie alot until the Hulk actually showed up.