What if Bendis wrote a core X-book?

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I haven't read much about his stint in Marvel. I'm planning to get some hardcovers of Daredevil soon. But based on reading comic book sites, I got an idea how he write things.

Basically, I'm a Cyclops fan and throughout my more than 10 years of reading the X-Men comic books, the comic book issues that had a profound effect on my memory include:

a. A dark setting.
b. The characters are not that many, thus a bigger emphasis is given to the core characters.
c. There's a lot of introspection and philosophical content in the story.
d. Action scenes and showcasing of powers is not that important unless it's well choreographed and well drawn.

Thus the comic books that I really enjoyed include:
1. Marvels by Alex Ross
2. Further Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix (the origin of Mr. Sinister)
3. Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix
4. God Loves Man Kills (though its now a bit cheesy by contemporary standards)
5. New X-Men 127 (Xorn origin story)
6. Age of Apocalypse (the entire saga)
7. UXM 309 (Xavier is having a dream. And his philosophical antagonist in that dream is none other than the obvious, Magneto).

Whedon's style in writing is more of back to basics (ala Claremont) approach with some witty dialogue. Sure he does prioritize Cyke but I think the exposure is not enough given that a story must always fit a six issue series, and we're always seeing large panels and less dialogue. If I'm already complaining, I guess fans of the less exposed characters like Beast (as well as any B0list character) would have to complain even more.

At least Grant Morrison (the writer before Joss) don't have to conform to a six-issue limit. However, he made tons of storyline loopholes, especially with his execution of the Xorn-Magneto storyline.

I miss those old filler x-men issues where there are no grand events, but just character development directed filler issues.

Somehow, Bendis writing an X-book may not be that bad of an idea.
 
Horrible idea. The X-Men are complciated enough wothout having Bendis on them.
 
If Bendis wrote an X-book, it would sell in the Top 10. That's the only prediction I'd make. It wouldn't matter who drew it or who was on the roster, or what the plots were. It would sell in the Top 10. And then Marvel would pretend namepower doesn't exist in comic books, while simeltanously exploiting it, and then wondering why fans seem to think they're "two-faced" and give them internet ire. Dude, you reap what you soe. Stop taking fans for fools and maybe they won't be so damned bitter.
 
I like Bendis, but I would not like him on an X-Book

you'll love his Daredevil, though
 
I'm not a big fan of this idea. I almost killed myself over New Avengers and that Xorn/Magneto crap. I mean seriously what the **** is Xorn???
 
Xorn is an X-Men characters that's been around for a few years. BEndis didn't create him, Grant Morrison did
 
Morrison created him, but then Austen came in to confuse matters and Bendis just compounded it even more in New Avengers.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
Morrison created him, but then Austen came in to confuse matters and Bendis just compounded it even more in New Avengers.


Austen's hand was forced by the editors.
 
Then it's the editors' fault. Morrison still didn't make him the mess he is today. He had a clear plan for Xorn to be Magneto in disguise all along.
 
True, but I like my Austen hate to be correct.
 
I suppose there's plenty of other stuff to hate him for without dragging Xorn into the mix anyway. :up:
 
Word. Lets start a retro 2004 Chuck Austen Sucks thread.
 
Bendis wrote a core X-book?
1. Shadowcat would keep phasing out of her clothes.

2. Wolverine Would talk more.

3. Cyclops would become an indecisive leader.

4. Phoenix would come back.

5. Bishop would has race issues.

6. The New Mutants would be more annoying than the are now.

7. Magneto and Polaris Would have a Illegitamate child, (Yeah I know he's supposed to be her father - but it's bendis.)

8. Spiderman would join the Xmen.

9.The school would be moved to the bahamas,... or central park.

10. Powers and abilities would be tweaked all around.

(((((((((((((((((((((SHUDDER))))))))))))))))))))))))))
 
Darthphere said:
Word. Lets start a retro 2004 Chuck Austen Sucks thread.
'04 was the tail-end, though. '03 was prime Austen hating time, with the incomparable "Ice" and "The Draco" arcs in full swing. :up:
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
'04 was the tail-end, though. '03 was prime Austen hating time, with the incomparable "Ice" and "The Draco" arcs in full swing. :up:


Mmmm Draco.:up:
 
Technically Bendis already did write an X-book, if you count ULTIMATE X-MEN as an "X-book". He wrote it for a year after Millar left, but before Vaughan & Kirkman got on. His first 6 issues amounted to little more than an ULTIMATE MARVEL TEAM-UP arc with Wolverine, Spider-Man & Daredevil for some reason; it was maybe 4 or 5 issues in before other X-Men emerged. After that, for his 6 issue NEW MUTANTS arc, he wasn't bad, although it took 20 issues of BKV to add more life to some of the mutants Bendis introduced, such as Dazzler, Angel, and even Havok. As usual with Bendis stories, it was very talky (I swear Cyclops said "My brother" about 200 times within the span of 2 pages) until the climax, and he needed to axe off a longtime team member (the Beast, in a way that looked exactly like a rehash of #3, only with a more fatal ending). But, that death provided fodder for BKV to play with involving Storm, Wolverine, etc. and to be fair Ultimate's been unlike Marvel in that they seem to keep deaths rare and important. So far.

So, his year long run on ULTIMATE X-MEN wasn't too bad, as it continued on Millar's darker tones after he left, but it had some flaws and stumbled at the openning gate. BKV really ran with the series, launching it in bold new directions for 19 issues (and an annual). Kirkman so far is doing no harm, but his shoving of a "Mary Sue" character down our necks is waring thin. To give Bendis credit, he never did that on Ult. XM. Heck, he'd introduce a new mutant in one issue and then 2 later they're almost ignored. He even introduced a subplot where Angel liked Storm because she could fly that neither he or any future writer played with, which was a shame. His run provided a good launching stone for Vaughan, of course one of critic's favorite shots against Bendis is that his Marvel stuff is almost always done better by other writers, and it wouldn't persist if it didn't happen so bloody often.
 
Varient said:
Bendis wrote a core X-book?
1. Shadowcat would keep phasing out of her clothes.
see, I would read that
 
Besides, Bendis writes Ultimate Shadowcat in USM. He writes her fine enough, although she is yet another female character in USM who can totally upstage Spider-Man at every turn. She's the Donna to Spidey's Eric Foreman. Wait, scratch that, some 70'S SHOW episodes actually showed Eric competantly hitting and defeating someone...USM never does that. ;)
 
Elijya said:
see, I would read that
Well, yeah, but... you like Nextwave. :o
Dread said:
His run provided a good launching stone for Vaughan, of course one of critic's favorite shots against Bendis is that his Marvel stuff is almost always done better by other writers, and it wouldn't persist if it didn't happen so bloody often.
How often has it happened? I only remember JMS writing the New Avengers better than Bendis in ASM, and apparently there's this UXM with Vaughan writing them better than Bendis. Where else has it happened?
 
Oh, I never read what Bendis did with Layla in House of M. She's been pretty good in X-Factor, though. Is PAD writing her better?
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
Well, yeah, but... you like Nextwave. :o

How often has it happened? I only remember JMS writing the New Avengers better than Bendis in ASM, and apparently there's this UXM with Vaughan writing them better than Bendis. Where else has it happened?
Heinberg also wrote a much better New Avengers in YA, just it was so late that people barely noticed. I'd argue BKV's version of the NA that showed up in RUNAWAYS wasn't any worse than Bendis'. And Brubaker's been able to outsell Bendis on DD so far, although I long ago stopped reading that.

Plus, PAD on X-FACTOR and Heinberg on YA pretty much took turd-level stories like DISASSEMBLED and HOM and really ran the hell out of them. But do you give Bendis credit for providing the dirt from which a flower could eventually grow? By that logic, even Austen deserves credit for...something.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
Oh, I never read what Bendis did with Layla in House of M. She's been pretty good in X-Factor, though. Is PAD writing her better?


Yes, very much so.
 
Dread said:
But do you give Bendis credit for providing the dirt from which a flower could eventually grow? By that logic, even Austen deserves credit for...something.
By that logic Liefeld deserves credit for taking Deathstroke, filtering him through the '90s schlock machine, and turning him into Deadpool. I'll continue to heap my praise on Joe Kelly for actually making Deadpool a readable character instead, thank you.
 

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