What if the 90's shakeups had been permanent?

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Do you think you'd be okay with...
Bruce Wayne retiring as Batman & Jean Paul Valley still wearing the cape & cowl?
Superman still being made of energy?
Ben Reilly remaining Spider-Man?
The Hulk still being smart, having a military-looking haircut & wearing clothes that fit him?
Wolverine still having no adamantium?
"Joseph" (the Magneto clone) still being alive-or rather, him being the actual Magneto?
Access still taking characters back & forth between the DC & Marvel universes? (Whatever happened to him anyway?)
Venom still playing hero & agreeing not to go after Spider-Man as long as Spidey left him alone? (We're assuming that Reilly would honor the truce here. I know that's a stretch.)
Doc Ock & Scorpion's female replacements running the respective shows?
Kyle Rayner still being Green Lantern?
Cassandra Cain still being Batgirl?
Thunderstrike still being alive & Thor remaining in Asgard?
The aftermath of Onslaught being the status quo?
Discuss.
 
You don't really fully grasp just how ****ty the 90s were until you see listed out like that.

I wish Kyle was still GL though.
 
You don't really fully grasp just how ****ty the 90s were until you see listed out like that.

I wish Kyle was still GL though.

Wow. And to think I purposely omitted the parts I really hated.
 
If all the 1990's comic book changes had stuck and continued to this very day ... then this consensus about the "Status Quo" always returning after a shakeup (Dont worry guys, such and such will return in a year or two! ect ect) wouldnt hold too much water.
 
So people are holding out hope that, for example, Peter & MJ will get back together?
 
Do you think you'd be okay with...
Bruce Wayne retiring as Batman & Jean Paul Valley still wearing the cape & cowl?
Superman still being made of energy?
Ben Reilly remaining Spider-Man?
The Hulk still being smart, having a military-looking haircut & wearing clothes that fit him?
Wolverine still having no adamantium?
"Joseph" (the Magneto clone) still being alive-or rather, him being the actual Magneto?
Access still taking characters back & forth between the DC & Marvel universes? (Whatever happened to him anyway?)
Venom still playing hero & agreeing not to go after Spider-Man as long as Spidey left him alone? (We're assuming that Reilly would honor the truce here. I know that's a stretch.)
Doc Ock & Scorpion's female replacements running the respective shows?
Kyle Rayner still being Green Lantern?
Cassandra Cain still being Batgirl?
Thunderstrike still being alive & Thor remaining in Asgard?
The aftermath of Onslaught being the status quo?
Discuss.

No
No
No
Yes
No
No
Yes
No
No
Yes
She is still Batgirl she's just inconceivably ****tily written Batgirl
No
No
 
Kyle is a Green Lantern and Cass is Batgirl.

Those questions are poorly worded.
 
I actually wouldn't mind what your implying, then comics might be unexpected and they'd evolve instead of giving us the same **** every 5 years.



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Do you think you'd be okay with...
Bruce Wayne retiring as Batman & Jean Paul Valley still wearing the cape & cowl?

NO. And J-P Valley's Batman costume was atrocious.

Superman still being made of energy?

NO. Especially after he split into Pokemon versions Red & Blue.

Ben Reilly remaining Spider-Man?

NO. Except for the baby that didn't last, nothing good came from the Clone Saga. No, not even Kaine.

The Hulk still being smart, having a military-looking haircut & wearing clothes that fit him?

YES, I'm 100% pro-Professor Hulk. As long as Hulk was smart, who cares what he looked like? Don't get me wrong, Savage Hulk is cool, but if Professor Hulk stayed, that would have rocked. Seriously, who cared about the Hulk's appearance over his CHARACTER?! I couldn't care less about the hair (remember Heroes Reborn Hulk had a mullet!) or the type of clothes (again, remember Heroes Reborn Hulk was buck-naked), I just want a smart Hulk. And a Green Hulk. So the appearance didn't matter; hair and clothes...whatever.

Wolverine still having no adamantium?

NO...although the premise was ok, just as long as it was temporary.

"Joseph" (the Magneto clone) still being alive-or rather, him being the actual Magneto?

No...again, as long as it got undone.

Access still taking characters back & forth between the DC & Marvel universes? (Whatever happened to him anyway?)

NO...that should be used only for that one event.

Venom still playing hero & agreeing not to go after Spider-Man as long as Spidey left him alone? (We're assuming that Reilly would honor the truce here. I know that's a stretch.)

NO...Venom's overexposure and sudden, ill-written change from Spidey villain to "Lethal Protector" is what ruined his character in the mid-late 90's to the point of now return...now we're stuck with Anti-Venom and Gargan/Venom. Brock as Venom is dead...and it all started with him going "hero" on our asses. Thanks, Marvel :rolleyes".

Doc Ock & Scorpion's female replacements running the respective shows?

NO...BTW, what female Scorpion are you talking about? Anyway, I hated Lady Ock in 616 (M2 is different).

Kyle Rayner still being Green Lantern?

MIXED...NOW I like Hal Jordan as the main GL, but back then, Kyle was the GL I knew...by the time I decided to take a glance at DC, I only knew one GL and one Flash...Kyle and Wally. Now...it should be Hal & Wally.

Cassandra Cain still being Batgirl?

YES...BTW, this is still ongoing.

Thunderstrike still being alive & Thor remaining in Asgard?

NO...though I'd like to see him return...like Danny Ketch did.

The aftermath of Onslaught being the status quo?

NO...Heroes Reborn...Nuff Said.

Discuss.

The comics of the 90's sucked. The only good that came out of it was the exciting new Image Comics and the meteoric rise (before the catyclasmic fall) of Venom. Thanks for the memories...
 
Kyle is a Green Lantern and Cass is Batgirl.

Those questions are poorly worded.

I actually thought Cass was history (that she quit after killing her mom) & Kyle went by a different name now.:huh:
 
The comics of the 90's sucked. The only good that came out of it was the exciting new Image Comics and the meteoric rise (before the catyclasmic fall) of Venom. Thanks for the memories...

I agree with you on a lot of things, especially Hulk & Venom. As for "what female scorpion", I guess she either didn't last long enough or didn't make enough appearances to make a real impression. Anyways, her name was Scorpia (not to be confused w/the one of "She-Ra" fame) she came along after Gargan announced his retirement & I liked her look.
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Last I saw her was in Kevin Smith's Black Cat mini & she looked like this.
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I guess you remember Lady Ock better. But she did prove more interesting in "Spider-Girl" (I guess Otto never came back in that timeline.)
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$h!t, well THAT explains everything.

Where is Kyle?

ChrisWallace: For instance...Race jokes? YES SIR! Keeping a brotha down? NO THANKS...
 
Kyle and Guy Gardner are on Oa. They run some kind of a bar and do GL training.

I don't know what else to tell you about Sodam Yat. He did get the heck beat out of him by Superman-Prime.
 
$h!t, well THAT explains everything.

Where is Kyle?

ChrisWallace: For instance...Race jokes? YES SIR! Keeping a brotha down? NO THANKS...

Gotcha. You're down with it in word but not in deed.
 
I, too, would like to see Thunderstrike again. I know he's dead, but when did that ever stop anybody?
 
Do you think you'd be okay with...
Bruce Wayne retiring as Batman & Jean Paul Valley still wearing the cape & cowl?
Superman still being made of energy?
Ben Reilly remaining Spider-Man?
The Hulk still being smart, having a military-looking haircut & wearing clothes that fit him?
Wolverine still having no adamantium?
"Joseph" (the Magneto clone) still being alive-or rather, him being the actual Magneto?
Access still taking characters back & forth between the DC & Marvel universes? (Whatever happened to him anyway?)
Venom still playing hero & agreeing not to go after Spider-Man as long as Spidey left him alone? (We're assuming that Reilly would honor the truce here. I know that's a stretch.)
Doc Ock & Scorpion's female replacements running the respective shows?
Kyle Rayner still being Green Lantern?
Cassandra Cain still being Batgirl?
Thunderstrike still being alive & Thor remaining in Asgard?
The aftermath of Onslaught being the status quo?
Discuss.


Bruce didn't retire. His back was broken and Jean Paul took his place until Bruce was fully healed, but still, yes, I never Jean Paul as Batman.
 

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