Comics What if Xavier focused more on omega class mutants...

[ProfeZZor X]

and other energy and reality manipulating mutants to make the world a better place for everyone to live. Had he took his dream a step further and focused more on developing the gifts most omega class mutants could offer to the human population, such as curing uncureable diseases, abolishing hunger, eliminating homelessness, colonizing new worlds, and ending wars...

1) Where do you think most of the other non-omega mutants would fit in this universe?

2) How would that affect Magneto's homo-superior dream?

3) Who would decide when/where/how & why an omega mutant's power is used?

Just a thought...

 

[javon]

1)Well, they wouldn't need to be around anymore. Although people with non0omega powers are still capable of the "abolishing hunger' thing.

2)He'd just have to stop being an old evil crybaby and deal with it,j/k about the words.

3)Professor would find some way.

 

[AnnoyingSilence]

1) Where do you think most of the other non-omega mutants would fit in this universe?
probly like the rest of the mutants in the comics that aren't fighting... either picking on humans or getting picked on by humans
2) How would that affect Magneto's homo-superior dream?
instead of help ONLY mutants, they'd help everyone
3) Who would decide when/where/how & why an omega mutant's power is used?
it would have to be a common goal thing...


Now... What would never happen is Xavier actually doing this...

1.) refer to cable/deadpool (1-7). He would only do it if it were a unanimous descision...
2.) the whole thinking of omega level mutants didn't come for YEARS after he started the xmen

 

[javon]

 

[Exploding Boy]

Considering Xavier has been a dick in the comics lately, I dont know I I'd want him dealing with changing the world with Omega mutants

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Considering Xavier has been a dick in the comics lately, I dont know I I'd want him dealing with changing the world with Omega mutants

But think of how far better off mutants and humans could be, if Xavier increased his efforts on helping humans on a global scale with solving some of the common problems they have, that could be easily fixed with the help of an omega class mutant.

Javon/Sebita - Storm can be included as well.... hehe.

 

[Exploding Boy]

I dont think you need to be an Omega mutant to help out the world. Any telekinetic mutant can help build bridges. Any super strength mutant, electricity controlling, elemental ect. can help fix the world.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

I dont think you need to be an Omega mutant to help out the world. Any telekinetic mutant can help build bridges. Any super strength mutant, electricity controlling, elemental ect. can help fix the world.

Maybe not, but having the ability to do most of the things I mentioned on a larger scale would definitely be an advantage of using an omega class mutant. Try imagining the Phoenix or Iceman doing something on a planetary scale in a matter of seconds or minutes, whereas it would take a combined effort of 10 or more mutants, a few years to do the same thing.

 

[Valechan]

Xavier has been picking mutants to join his X-Men based on their personality. He chose those that would become heroes and trained them for that end. IT's not a matter of power, it's a matter of determination. Here is a beautiful Storm Quote from Uncanny Annual 10 about it:

Storm: "There's more to it than simply possessing super powers. To be an X-Man means possessing a strength of will--of self identity-- that nothing can subvert. Mojo never realized it is something pure and incorruptible in our primal selves that makes us what we are. That is why the original team members were chosen by Charles Xavier-- as opposed to other mutants who had developed their powers at that time-- and why we were specifically chosen to replace them. It is why you may belong, Elizabeth, and some of the New Mutants, despite their courage, may not. For better or worse, being an X-Man means not merely being born a mutant... but a hero"

Ororo has all the answers

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Xavier has been picking mutants to join his X-Men based on their personality. He chose those that would become heroes and trained them for that end. IT's not a matter of power, it's a matter of determination.

The problem with that, is that ALL of these so called Omega class mutants are ALREADY heroes. Xavier chose most, if not ALL of the omega class mutants to attend his school, or at least come into contact with them... Jean Grey, Bobby Drake, Quentin Quire, Vulcan, Mr. M and even Franklin Richards has visited the Xavier institute from time to time. So it has nothing to do with who he chose, because they were already chosen from the very start. Or he's interacted with them somewhere down the line.

My other point is that, even with their possible "unlimited power", it's a lot easier to gain the trust of human kind with an amazing, and long lasting act of kindness, rather than stopping an evil villain here and there. Most of the general human populace is unaware of the villains the X-Men fight, so if their approach to gaining human trust is their goal, what better thing to do than to help them with their worldly problems on a global scale.

So actually, Storm doesn't have the answer on that one...

 

[Valechan]

The X-Men have done many long lasting acts of kindness, and even gotten good publicity about it (Uncanny 227 anyone) in some of them. Thing is, what they have to fight is the way the people see them, and just saying "we're heroes, we are no threat to you" means that they are the heroes, they are no threat, but the other thousands of mutants might be. Just because they are good heroes, or the best and most powerful heroes doesn't mean that people will trust all mutants.

 

[Valechan]

There is also the true answer to this thread. If you have a group of uber-powerful mutants... what interesting stories can be told? IF you have a team that can do anything by just lifting a finger... where is the challenge? where is the myth? It's quite boring to see that sort of team in action. It's better to have a mix of characters with varying weaknesses. That's why Omegas have "potential" and just that, and whenever they reach that potential they die.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

There is also the true answer to this thread. If you have a group of uber-powerful mutants... what interesting stories can be told? IF you have a team that can do anything by just lifting a finger... where is the challenge? where is the myth? It's quite boring to see that sort of team in action. It's better to have a mix of characters with varying weaknesses. That's why Omegas have "potential" and just that, and whenever they reach that potential they die.

Very true, they either die off, or are downsized (in power). Although, there are some pretty capable omegas out there that some people, like myself, would at least like to see a glimpse (from time to time) of what they are capable of. We fans know what omegas can do... the writers just need to come up with a creative story that doesn't keep their powers over the edge indefinitely. Or at least bring them back to a reality to why they shouldn't use that potential often.

 

[rabidfanboy]

Didn't Cable already try and pull this stunt...

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Didn't Cable already try and pull this stunt...

What?... use omega mutants to help humans and mutants coexist quicker?

 

[rabidfanboy]

No, when he tried to play Messiah to the world himself... Cable & Deadpool.

 

[Manic]

refer to cable/deadpool (1-7)

I was just about to mention that.

Charles once said to Cable that having the power to change the world into your own personal ideal doesn't mean you have the right to do so, and that there will be no shortage of people ready to stop you.

Cable, in full posession of his powers, decided to move rivers into the Sahara, fly into foreign land and dismantle their nuclear weapons, telepathically listen in on the thoughts of SHIELD agents, and dictate to world leaders what he wants them to do with their countries (or he'd do it himself). He then set up his own island, where he invited several of the world's most brilliant minds to live in peace, and gave sanctuary to known terrorists.

He used every power at his disposal to try and make the world a better place. End result? They sent in the Silver Surfer to beat the living sh** out of him.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

He used every power at his disposal to try and make the world a better place. End result? They sent in the Silver Surfer to beat the living sh** out of him.

LMAO!!!.... I'm sure Xavier's dream doesn't involve changing the world in his image. But for him to have a dream of both mutants and humans to coexist in harmony, what exactly did he have in mind? And what would mutants do in this utopia? To what capacity would they use their powers? Fighting villains kind of forces them to use their powers, sometimes in creative ways. But without as many villains in this coexistance, how could they use those same powers?

 

[javon]

Maybe not, but having the ability to do most of the things I mentioned on a larger scale would definitely be an advantage of using an omega class mutant.

I thought Omega wasn't about using your powers on aglobal scale?

 

[ProfeZZor X]

I thought Omega wasn't about using your powers on a global scale?

The term "Omega Mutant" is defined as a mutant with the capacity to affect the entire world with their powers. And if Storm or Iceman can use their abilities to bring nurishment to a starving country, why shouldn't they be able to?

Xavier is preaching racial harmony, but what exactly have the X-Men done in the last few decades to indicate any progress. They are still hated and feared, so I think if Xavier had a more agressive campaign to win the peoples trust (by helping them with problems only some mutants could solve by using their powers on a large scale), his dream would probably have come true a lot sooner.

 

[javon]

The term "Omega Mutant" is defined as a mutant with the capacity to affect the entire world with their powers. And if Storm or Iceman can use their abilities to bring nurishment to a starving country, why shouldn't they be able to?

Then that would make Wanda and Storm Omega. But I know it aint true sooooo....

 

[Valechan]

The term "Omega Mutant" is defined as a mutant with the capacity to affect the entire world with their powers

Post issue number where this definition appeared.

 

[javon]

If that it so, then hurray for Storm and Wanda!

 

[Majik1387]

The term "Omega Mutant" is defined as a mutant with the capacity to affect the entire world with their powers

Not entirely.
Omega implies unlimited and ultimate potential. So it's just unlimited and ultimate potential for the mutant's power(s).

 

[javon]

I try not to bring up Storm..srry. But Storm has, on many occasions, went PASS her limits, and in Uncanny X-men #147 is simply states that she has no limits. Now for many times I have wondered if that ment physical limits (which is still good) or power. But it has to be power since that is what Doom had stated.

guess since claremont ain't writing for her its different though.