What super powered Marvel characters can still be a threat w/o their powers?

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As mentioned here before, many times after a character loses his or her powers, writers tend to make them just as or even more improved. In a more "believable" scenario, what super powered characters should have the brains and brawn to do damage without their enhanced abilities and against whom namely?
 
i really don't understand the question.
Consider:

I'd say roughly 25 to 40 percent of "superheroes" operate without inate Superpowers.

If you took Tony Stark's or John Henry's Armor away from them,.. "They'd make more." In fact it would give them the option for "Upgrades" and a drafting board to try out new idea's

(Imagine Tony building armor from scratch that takes into account extremis,.. or John Building from scratch with Everything he learned helping Superman with Kryptonian Tech.)

Some superpowers are minor or make crimefighting "a little easier" in the day to day for some superheroes. Black Canary, Captain America, Wildcat, if stripped of their powers could continue with just more effort.

So I guess I just don't know what direction you are going with this,... the heaviest hitters would / should retire because their powers are what allows the hero.

V.
 
Deadpool would still be a major threat. Technically he would die without his healing factor because his cancer would take over but if he also didnt have cancer he would still be very agile and well-trained in most forms of combat.
 
Mr Fantastic is smart enough to be a threat without his power.

Wolverine would be
 
Well obviously certain heroes who rely more on their mental abilities or knowledge of battle tactics can still be effective regardless. Cap's a military genius and a born leader even if he didn't have the benefits of the super-serum. Reed Richards stretching ability is helpful all right but he was brilliant long before he went into space and scientific genius is always valuable. Similarly let's not underrate Peter Parker's natural ingenuity. Misty is one smart tough cookie even without that power arm of hers. Gambit and Felicia Hardy are both experts at breaking and entering which can come in handy.
 
The Super Soldier Serum enhanced Caps intelligence as well so if all the effects of the serum were neutralized Cap would be incompetent. He has already shown that without the physical benefits of the serum he can't fight even ordinary goons. We found that out when he had Sersi transform him so that he could go undercover.
 
LadyMoira said:
Well obviously certain heroes who rely more on their mental abilities or knowledge of battle tactics can still be effective regardless. Cap's a military genius and a born leader even if he didn't have the benefits of the super-serum. Reed Richards stretching ability is helpful all right but he was brilliant long before he went into space and scientific genius is always valuable. Similarly let's not underrate Peter Parker's natural ingenuity. Misty is one smart tough cookie even without that power arm of hers. Gambit and Felicia Hardy are both experts at breaking and entering which can come in handy.
You understand perfectly.
 
Spider-Kurt! said:
I can see the others but, why Kitty?

Kitty has had super-ninja, combat training off the demon lord Ogun.

Ogun is teh shiznit ie so is Kitty :oldrazz:
 
Kitty is also a technological genius especially with computers. Not on a level with Richards or Stark but she has access to tech from Xavier, Hank McCoy, the Shiar, etc. And she's bratty enough to use it to good effect. :)
 
Silicon Surfer said:
Cyclops, Thor, Hercules, Kitty, Colossus, Spider Woman 1.
How can you say Cyclops, but not Storm?:o
 
Silicon Surfer said:
The Super Soldier Serum enhanced Caps intelligence as well so if all the effects of the serum were neutralized Cap would be incompetent. He has already shown that without the physical benefits of the serum he can't fight even ordinary goons. We found that out when he had Sersi transform him so that he could go undercover.


HUH? What are you talking about? In the Streets Of Poison storyline, Cap had Hank Pym extract the super soldier serum from his blood, them promply went out and beat the snot out of Crossbones, one of his most physically threatening rogues....and at no point did Cap come of as "incompetent." :down
 
Cap in one story had Sersi transform him so that he could go undercover. She transformed him into a version of himself without Serum enhancement. He got caught right away and a bunch of common thugs beat the sacred fecal matter out of him and he could not even put up a fight. He only escaped because Sersi built a safeguard into her transformation. By the fiftieth body blow he would transform back into his enhanced form.
 
Silicon Surfer said:
Cap in one story had Sersi transform him so that he could go undercover. She transformed him into a version of himself without Serum enhancement. He got caught right away and a bunch of common thugs beat the sacred fecal matter out of him and he could not even put up a fight. He only escaped because Sersi built a safeguard into her transformation. By the fiftieth body blow he would transform back into his enhanced form.


Sounds pretty lame. I'll stick with the Mark Gruenwald theory. Heck, evenother writers have had Steve go one on one with the likes of the Red Skull after losing his super soldier serum.

That's been established several times in the past.
 
Silicon Surfer said:
Kitty is also a technological genius especially with computers. Not on a level with Richards or Stark but she has access to tech from Xavier, Hank McCoy, the Shiar, etc. And she's bratty enough to use it to good effect. :)
Didn't know that either! Thanks!
 
Without the Super Soldier Serum he is very uncoordinated. This was the truth way back in his origins so that story adheres more closely to the original idea.
 
Except it's been proven wrong more often then it's been proven right.
 
Cap. Sure, he wouldn't be able to put up the same kind of fight, but his brains would certainly remain intact.
 

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