Sequels What the public wants!

[DrChronic]

Its funny you know, i've read several posts on how people see x-men 4 and what they want from such movie, and even thought i wrote a fan-fic of x-men 4 i found the following trend we all seem to spout, Now im not saying we all feel the same, but there are a hugh number of us wanting the same things for x-men 4... I rounded them up to 10 things

1. GAMBIT - need i say more, there are split, some hate him some adore him, But there is a greater fan base than those who dont like him... He is reason number 1 we want an x-men 4.

2. Apocaylpse - There seems to be alot of hype over everyone wanted apocaylpse as the villian, I personnely think he is too powerful for the x-men to handle, well not yet that is, Maybe a better use would be to have Apocaylpse underline the new sequil but have seperate villians for it, like Sinister, The Hellfire and Four Horsemen. But either way public was Apocaylpse

3. The New Mutants Rise and become the new x-men, Something ive seen and from what i saw of posts, People want the younger x-men, Iceman, angel, colossus, shadow cat and rogue be the next line to stand up to the role and lead the way. I have two problems with that, one being the're still learning and without adult supervision i dont think it will work, However I think they should focus on Beast's involvement to the school and have Emma Frost take over Xaviers role.

4. Emma Frost, but only for the goodguys, must be a large fan base for her being good than bad.

5. The Friends Of Humanity - one of the best forms of anti-mutant sediment lead by Graydon Creed. But the problem is we had x1 senitor kelly, x2 the presedent and mystique mimicing senitor kelly, and x3 we just had trask and the president. If they were to move forward i feel cameron hodge and senitor graydon creed would make a greater conflict.

6. More noticeable cameo's, the fans love the cameo's but i think they were disappointed with what they got in last stand and feel they needed to have a few more famous characters than hardly nobody mutants.

7. Legacy Virus, Days Of Future Past and Rise of the Apocaylpse are stories ive seen great ideas to base the next trilogy on. If anything everyone seems to move towards them for what they want for the next x-men movie.

8. Sinister as new Magneto, there seems to be alot of people who want sinister as the new continus villian like Magneto.

9. Sentinals, Not my favorite but i think everyone wants a full sized and being chased by sentinal.

10. More Beast! i dont think people responded well with the securtary mcCoy, everyone was looking for the scientist McCoy and thats what we really wanted beast to be.

Well there you have it, now some of you may disagree but honestly this is the 10 points overall collected together, if you think otherwise please responde.

 

[Goddessreicho]

How about getting to know the characters that were there and still are? I want to see some kind of semblance of comic book Storm. I could care less about the accent. An orgin scene, a plant...something. If she could could inrtoduce a past sibling like realationship with Gambit and bring him to the X-men, jeezuz its hitting two birds with one stone.

A link to X-factor or Havok being a Summer's brother

 

[otrock]

I think you pretty much hit it on the head. I do think that one huge problem with making a fourth X-men movie is that they really screwed things up in the third. If they can find a way around all of that it may just work.

 

[RonStoppablefan]

LOL I don't think they can work around the screw ups they did in the third movie. I mean they can't bring characters back to life LOL the other problem such as dealing with the powers that got taken away, that may be able be hanndled.

 

[otrock]

Well, the ending of TLS with Xavier being in the guy who was on life support, could in theory bring him back, and they never actually showed Cyclops dying, so in theory he could still be around, but not too likely. I think that they have two options for future X-men movies. Start from scratch, or as gay as it sounds, have that last movie be like a dream sequence. I don't know how else they could do it.

 

[GL1]

First: "We" are not "the public"... we are "the fans," and there just aren't a whole lot of us. So lets keep our opinions as ours, and not try to paint the world with them.

Second, I feel like being mean, so watch out:

GAMBIT: Pure 90s cheesiness. We don't need ANOTHER bad boy charmer, (remember, we have Wolvie for that) and while Gambit does have a fan base, there are far more people who have no idea or care who he is than actually like him.

Apocalypse: Seems like the next logical step in X-Men villainy. A build up to Apocalypse in an "X6" as the biggest big bad they've ever faced.

New Mutants: Perhaps as school cameos, sure, but we've already got a full compliment of X-Men, in Iceman, Rogue, Colossus and Shadowcat who DO have adult supervision in Storm if not Beast and Wolverine as well. This is to say nothing of Jubilee and Siryn who should be ready for action now. At the end of X3 the X-Men are: Storm, Iceman, Shadowcat, Colossus and Wolverine. Period. You can't pretend like Iceman, Shadowcat and Colossus aren't world-saving X-Men.

Emma Frost: As with Gambit, if they can't do a good job on the regular X-Men, I think they should fix that before adding recent X-Men characters: Emma Frost, Xorn, whoever).

Friends of Humanity: Definitely need a cameo, and would make a lot of the anti-mutant sentiment make sense.

Cameos: Makes it hard to use the character later creatively, but sure, I'd love cameos all throughout the movie, honestly.

Alternate Reality Storylines: Please no. Legacy Virus? Perhaps as a subplot, but didn't we just get done with cures in X3?

Sinister as new MAgneto: Sure... Sinister makes a great bridge into Apocalypse as a capstone and works as a function of both the Hellfire Club and can have his hands in multiple things.

More Beast? If they can explain it in the storyline why he would leave the UN.

 

[storm-x-fan]

I want 3 things-

1) storm spinoff
2) sentinels
3) apocalypse

 

[DrChronic]

Right firstly i would like to say when i mean public i ment the good devoted fans, and like i said i dont agree with all those points but its just what the fans want. And those were the top ten. Firstly i would like to say each one of those points to me makes sense. i dunno if you see different.

Ok ill work backwards and head fowards to explain why i think they would work.

The first X-Men storys was really the first chapter of two trilogies, the first was introducing the characters and breaking the ground work. The first trilogy was the to idea's of xavier and magneto about mutants and humans relationships with each other, they added the third point of perspective by x2 and that was how the humans saw mutants. and that all came to a decisive stand by the end of the the trilogy.

So what do we want now, a new trilogy, a new saga, a new perspective to follow. Now from what i saw of the fans idea's they seem to like Apocaylpse as the next step and i feel its feesably possible to make him the Darth Sidious in the new trilogy. Apocaylpses belief is survival of the fittest, those with power stay in power and you have the greater and lesser fittest. This is a character who needs a build up of three movies to bring an all out war in the last part of the trilogy.

However Apocaylpse needs to stay in the shadow as he plays the game much like chess, he sends the pawns out first, then the skilled, then go in for the kill. So we bring in Dr.Essex aka Mr Sinister, who is somewhat a servant of apocaylpse but has his own idealogy of mutation. He believes mutation is a gift and something we should explore scientifically and should be availble to all. I wouldnt of been surprised if the machine magneto used in x1 was actually built by doctor essex. That would make for a good connection between the two trilogies.

With Sinister as the new Mangeto in the second trilogy we can drive threw 3 trilogies easy... And again the fans have provided the best stories to do so with.

1. The Legacy Virus - Now bear in mind that the cure was the bases of x3, we can join the story with the cure mutating and killing mutants. Causing a massive outbrake and quarenteen of mutants. In this panicy state we can introduce those that would research it, Bringing back Beast as a medical research a role for Moria and possibley this is the key to introduce Mr Sinister and the Maurders. Now i think if they want gambit so bad in the movie, we have the ideal plot for him, we have a depowered Rogue struggling to fit in now she isnt a mutant, a legacy virus that sinister has unknown plans over. Sinisters soldiers the Maurders is lead by Gambit, Gambit and rogue love connection, Gambit brings Rogue to sinister to help regain her powers and able to control them better. There is a whole story there. But what has this got to do with Apocaylpse and him being the trilogy, They need to set advents in, Legacy virus and sinisters introduction would be the start and like magneto Sinister survives each movie as he has alternative plans. which leads us to

2. Days of future past, ok its a long shot but i see it as what if a homeless guy (Alternative verson of bishop) on the streets predicts the future of mutants and is manipulated by the hellfire club for there own means to start a war with mutants and humans that they would profit from. Sinister would be a background character within the hellfire group, but you would have interesting chracters like Sebastian Shaw and so forth. We lead to

3. Rise of apocaylpse, however we do it threw the four horsemen, Siniste has been undersing the chosen ones right back to the first movie... you see with the legacy virus story arch, we could mame angel with the lose of his wings, gambit is torn by what he is done, bishop is manipulated into working with sinister and we are left with whoever will be the four horseman either sinister himself or we make it focus of the first act of x6 which leads to the rise of apocaylpse and the war of mutant kind.

Thats just from what i see from the fans i mean they want sentinals, the days of future past although set in the present, and follows a currupt hellfire benifiting from a war whould see the use of sentinals.

Ok on to the x-men, what i ment by new mutants is that of the ones we already see by the end of x3, Iceman, Rogue, Colossus, Angel, Shadow cat, this is the new x-men team and what we need to see is Iceman standing up to the role of leader.. Sadly i feel Storm, wolverine all the elder x-men except beast and moria, have no place in the future of x-men movies, Wolverine is a loner hence a solo movie, and as for Storm allthough there is a big fan base for her, there is an even bigger discruntled fan base who couldnt care less if she wasnt in x-men movies, there was alot of hostilatiy towards her being in x3 i can tell you. Its not that they dont like the character, Helle berry wasnt all too keen on her and wanted to make her stand out more in the future, but the problem was she wasnt the main focus, hence why there is alot of peopl who dislikes helle's attitude to storms character in the past and suddenly realising she is a goldmine character. But we dont dwell on the past. If anything i feel if we want to see Storm again, they need to make The Black Pantha a spin of from X-Men, Have storm return to her home and finds a new love interest who is that of The Black Pantha, Or do a Storm solo movie showing how she grew up in. But as for Storm in x-men 4 it just isnt going to happen. Times have changed and its time to move on and everyone except storm fans can see this.

Why the white queen? well, Xavier - Gone, who would finacinally look after and run xaviers school alot would say Storm but as previously stated they need to move forward. The next logical step would be The White Queen, we go with either a ultimate or astonishing ideaof White queen and not her days in the hellfire club. Im not personnely a fan of her, but i heard Segony weaver or riply from alien movies was going to play white queen in x2 before her character got cut from the movie. i thought eeew too old, but now that i think about it, if white queen was to take over from the role of headmistress of xaviers school we would need a more older character to look after them...and after seeing comander and chief recently i think geena davies would make a great white queen.

With Kelly Gone, Gyric Gone, Trask introduced and the president seems more activly open towards dealing with the situtation i feel that we need new political cover for x4 to x6.... I would say we need oh i dont know Senitor Cameron Hodge, for those who dont know he helped set up the first wave of x-factor only to cause more damage on the outside than inside. Hodge would make for a new but twisted Senitor Kelly, working with trask you have the connecting bases of x-men 4 to 6. But not just have Hodge we need another political debate, Graydon Creed, it should never bee revealed that he would be sabretooths and mystiques son. but would be funny to have tyler mane play the part of graydon creed thow LOL the reason for him leads to The Friends of humanity and i feel they should play a big part in x4 to 6 because of there reverse of magnetos philosphy towards how humans should be superior over mutants.

Again we had in x1 to 3 Xavier's Magnetos and The Political point of view towards how mutants and humans should co-exist.

For x4 to 6 we should have new philospys to follow. Like Sinisters ideas, Apocaylpse surivial of the fitists, Hellfires money over mutation and situtation dealings and social class and finally the pure hatrid of humans in rasium towards mutants found in the friends of humanity.

Now although some of these are just my ideas ive only forged together the ten major factors of what the devoted fans want in x-men 4 and beyond. and i must admit i agree with the fans i think it would make for a great plot or saga for a second trilogy. Just hope the big bosses see it that way.

 

[Goddessreicho]

I can't even begin to tell you how wrong you are about Storm. Let alone having anyone see her with the Black Panther. First of all it is the lowest selling Marvel comic book. It barely breaks 25K units sold. No one wants to see that.

Before they focus on the younger mutants, and start introducing more, they really need to fix the ones that are there. Beast, Storm, Xavier, and Wolverine desperatly need to maintain a line of character. That means better writing and good direction. People who know what they are doing. That means a new staff.

The actors are bound by whats on that paper. Better characters would mean a better performance, from everyone.

Your forgetting that more people like Halle than those who don't, and for people that dont really have an opinion about her, have heard of her. That means her name carries alot of weight. The biggest complaint of casual fans are wondering why she has stood around not doing much. Biggest mistake was seeing her not lead when Cyke couldn't.

I doubt we'll see a Black Panter spin off, especially since the comic book doesn't even sell 30K on a regular basis. So they should make the best out of the character and actress while they have the chance.

Most of the people who hate Halle are just whiny fanboys. But her name sells and so does the character.

As for those storylines: the legacy is to close to the cure and its been done already. Alternate futures and timelines are foolish and way to deluded.

Best bet is Apocyplse and Sinster minus thier Summer/Grey obession, or FoH.

They are proffesional writers they need to get creative and write a story that actually involves ALL of the team, and not just one or two members.

 

[DrChronic]

let me guess your a storm fan. Well buddy im afraid your wrong on that point, i must admit there are a fan base for storm, but there is a larger number of fans for other characters in the movie that dont really care much for the notion of Storm in the future movies.

Now i have nothing against storm but from what i see is x1 we had the intro to the characters but only wolverine and Rogue stood out the most. By x2 Halle was in two minds about reprising the role of Storm as she felt she had been sidelined and wanted more screen time.... The trouble was when they casted Halle as Storm, alot of people was put of by the actresses attitude towards the character as if she was desposible. In my oppion she lost respect from many loyal storm fans because she wanted to have her own superhero movie focusing all on her.... But lets not recall the Catwoman massicure.

Now if fox and all these so called fans of Storm praised her so much, why was fox considering either replacing the actor who will play storm, because originally halle didnt want to do x-men 3 she thought catwoman would take off. Either they were going to recast storm, or write her our of x-men 3. and even matthew vaugn on his short time working on the script said that in the original plans Storm didnt have much or hardly any screen time as her character was cut to a smaller role. It wasnt till Halle's film Catwoman flopped did she wanted to get more involved with x-men 3 and so she pleaded with brett ratner to expand her role.

So dont tell me that Fox treasures Storm because they really dont.

as for halle, she said shes not doing anymore x-men movies.

And the only reason why i said pair her off with Black Pantha was because well if and i mean a Big If, they where to make a solo Storm movie her growing up in africa, i could imagine they would try to force Black Pantha into the story just to give it a little boost. Its like Daredevil they had to use kingpin but we all feel he is a spidermna character. But it didnt hert the movie now did it

 

[GL1]

Hmm... a lot of your information is plain wrong DrChronic, especially when you talk about other 'fans' opinions and the timing of Halle's 'decisions.' Storm fans and Halle Haters have almost always been two distinctly different groups. Halle never lost respect from loyal storm fans, Fox lost respect from loyal X-Men fans, in the way they treated EVERYONE in the X-Men movies... Halle, despite her personal faults lobbied for Storm to be like she is from the comics, just as loyal Comics fans wanted, as soon as X1 came out. And yes, that includes a bigger role in the movies.

And while Black Panther (with an ER at the end) is a great character, I don't think he figures prominently in Storm's past, and FURTHERMORE, Kingpin is definitely a Daredevil Villain first and foremost... The 90's Spider-Man cartoon is the exception and not the rule...

All that said, for better or worse, Storm IS the headmistress of Xavier's school... and there's no Xavier, Cyclops, Phoenix or White Queen to take over for her. The X-Men ARE Storm, Iceman, Shadowcat and Colossus. That's it. If they make future X-Men movies, they have to give a really god explanation to where Storm went to... or recast... or something.

 

[DrChronic]

Look, why is it hard to believe that Storm might not have as such a big following group that they wont explore her future in the movies?

To be honest i think you lot think ive got something against her. I dont, but it surprises how many times people go back on there word on a forum.

Fact! alot of fans who did like halle was put of by the way she treated storm as a ploy to further her own career into a solo movie.

I like storm, i like her character in the movie, espcially her Ultimate counterpart. But even i can see where those seperate groups you call different are only one group who are undecisive all the time. But i know the fans of storm was hurt by this. Just look at the past threads of the boards.

 

[Neptune]

First: "We" are not "the public"... we are "the fans," and there just aren't a whole lot of us. So lets keep our opinions as ours, and not try to paint the world with them.

Second, I feel like being mean, so watch out:

GAMBIT: Pure 90s cheesiness. We don't need ANOTHER bad boy charmer, (remember, we have Wolvie for that) and while Gambit does have a fan base, there are far more people who have no idea or care who he is than actually like him.

Apocalypse: Seems like the next logical step in X-Men villainy. A build up to Apocalypse in an "X6" as the biggest big bad they've ever faced.

New Mutants: Perhaps as school cameos, sure, but we've already got a full compliment of X-Men, in Iceman, Rogue, Colossus and Shadowcat who DO have adult supervision in Storm if not Beast and Wolverine as well. This is to say nothing of Jubilee and Siryn who should be ready for action now. At the end of X3 the X-Men are: Storm, Iceman, Shadowcat, Colossus and Wolverine. Period. You can't pretend like Iceman, Shadowcat and Colossus aren't world-saving X-Men.

Emma Frost: As with Gambit, if they can't do a good job on the regular X-Men, I think they should fix that before adding recent X-Men characters: Emma Frost, Xorn, whoever).

Friends of Humanity: Definitely need a cameo, and would make a lot of the anti-mutant sentiment make sense.

Cameos: Makes it hard to use the character later creatively, but sure, I'd love cameos all throughout the movie, honestly.

Alternate Reality Storylines: Please no. Legacy Virus? Perhaps as a subplot, but didn't we just get done with cures in X3?

Sinister as new MAgneto: Sure... Sinister makes a great bridge into Apocalypse as a capstone and works as a function of both the Hellfire Club and can have his hands in multiple things.

More Beast? If they can explain it in the storyline why he would leave the UN.

Wow i so do not agree with you on Gambit. Gambit pure 90's cheesiness!? He is more than a badboy charmer and no we do not have Wolverine for that because Wolverine is a badboy but definitely not a charmer. You may know a lot of people who don't know or care about Gambit but i could say the same thing for every character. When i talk to people about x-men (not fans) the first thing they ask me is why Gambit isn't in the
movies because they like his character.

I think Emma Frost should be introduced as well. You are right when you say that if they can't do a good job on the characters they already have, they shouldn't introduce new ones but Gambit and Emma Frost are too big to not include in the movies. Even Psylocke. Characters like "Spikeboy",Callisto, Multiple man etc. i could do without.

I agree with the rest of your post though.

 

[Snikt 6]

How about a few things we don't want:
1) Gambit
2) Emma.....unless she is introduced through the Hellfire club then turns good...that would be cool.
3) Friends of Humanity....blah. A bunch of mutant hating people....boring.


Good post though. I hope they explore Colossus and Kitty a little more!

 

[DrChronic]

Trouble is i still think you lot are not looking at the big picture...

Hugh Jackman, Halle Berry, Sir Ian McKellan, Rebecca Rominica the top four main mutants have not signed on to do the future installments because they all believe the time has gone.

Marvel made a statement that although the big name starts was not signed on, the smaller stars are. So its more likely we wont see Wolverine, Storm, Magneto and Mystique in x-men 4.

Xavier - Maybe, the only reason for this is because Patrick stewart has stated before in the past that since star trek he found the x-men world as a new home for his career. Since X-Men more fans of Mr Stewart recognise him for Professor X than of Picard. So out of all the older cast, only Patrick is most dead-decated, to continue the future of x-men world.

Hugh will be doing wolverine hence why i doubt we will see him continue the x-men moves. Storm, Magneto's and Mystiques story arc have finished we no longer need them in the move, although fans will disagree because well there will be fans of these characters who would watch them till the end of the x-men movies to be made. However in order to move on character sacrifices are needed and unfortunatly Storm, Magneto and Mystique are those.

also on a finactional level, how much do you think it would cost if you had all the original cast of x-men in x-men 4? there all big name stars now. you can see why Fox and Marvel killed them off in x-men 3, to make way for the future. with the smaller stars, Rogue, Iceman, Angel, Colossus, Shadowcat they will all not get as much money for the role but they would be most dedicated to do x-men 4.

So what i ask you to do is look at it overall, from the fans including everyone... that means including the fans who love characters you hate. Then look at the financial side of it. The what would cost less. cos they spent alot on x-men 3 and didnt even get half back in box office numbers.
I mean they made a profit but it was only after the amount they spent on the film they only got half of that back as profit.

Right so get ride of the big name actors bring in the small names, Oh-ho what do we do now?

They lost Cyclops, and wolverine would sure be absent because well Wolverine Movie.

So you can see why there eger to get Gambit in to take over the role, a fan favourite. And if you wolverine fans dont like it, well look at it this way, where getting an x-men 4 and a Wolverine movie so whats your problem? a wolverine movie all to yourself.

White queen can be viewed as up there to jean grey, Storm and Mystique for age range and bear in mind we lost Jean and Mystique and its highly unlikely Storm will be in x-men 4 so White Queen is the next logical step.

So bear that in mind.

 

[Snikt 6]

^All very good points. I think it would be great to get some little known actors and have them bring in a bunch of new X-Men to head up X4. Bring Prof X back, Colossus, Kitty and Iceman can be the core of the movie. Maybe Rogue....maybe. I am a Wolvie fan, not a Jackman fan. So if they wanna try someone else...Im cool with that.

 

[DrChronic]

Well the way i see it.

Professor X is the driving force, he may be absent but out of the whole entire elder x-men he is the only one needed to move forward in the x-men story.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh heres an interesting thought, They've literally moved on...

Look at the past x-men, You had Cyclops, Jean and Storm and then brought in was Wolverine. Now the love triangle was Cyclops loves Jean, Jean Loves Cyclops, But also habors feelings for Wolverine, Wolverine Likes Jean, Storm has some feelings towards wolverine. Wasnt in the movie but you always thought Storm was envyous of Wolverines love for Jean. I think Brett said he was going to incorporate that in the x-men 3 in that scene where Wolverine is packing up to go get jean and he is stopped by Storm and they have a brief talk.

Anyway moving on to my point.

They've moved on, literally, We dont need storm because what they want to do is set up the new line of x-men in the same triangle. They got rid of Cyclops, so Iceman will take his place, Rogue is essentially the new Jean Grey, and Shadow cat is out Storm. Think on it this way, they need to bring in Gambit like they did with Wolverine who becomes an addition to the x-men world, then you have that whole Iceman/Rogue/Gambit love tringle you had with Cyclops/Jean/Wolverine. However its slightly different, Iceman loves Rouge, but also has feelings for shadow cat. Rogue has feelings for Iceman but starts to realise there is no future and finds love interest in gambit, Shadow cat starts to have feelings for rogue... Sorry got confused there but what a fanatsy. LOL Shadow cat starts to have feelings for Iceman and so we see the changing of ways.

Now ok there will be differences, firstly angel and colossus are also x-men but incorporating them in a triangle would be just insain. it would go something like Iceman loves Shadow Cat who loves colossus, who loves shadow cat who loves iceman who loves rogue as well but rogue also loves gambit who loves shadow cat and rogue who both also has the hots for Angel who angel has the hots for Psylocke.... Confused yet LOL

 

[DrChronic]

Ok moving onto Villian perspective!

Look at the past trilogy on Magneto, we need a new magneto why not sinister... On a kind of rise of apocaylpse kind of feel.

Ok magneto

x1 - He was the main focus
x2 - He joined with the x-men to aid an ultimate goal then striked when humanity was down
x3 - He started a war!

Same rules should apply for x-men 4 to 6 and sinister would make great watching.

Sinister and the mauraders would give a leyway in for fixing mutants who were cured back to mutants again. legacy virus would cause a disaster that the x-men have to solve. And so Sinister strikes

 

[Snikt 6]

Almost confused me...almost....okay you did. Good stuff, but that is almost like telling the story...again. Isn't there a better character to introduce the world to these X-Men, than Gambit? What if they brought Nightcrawler back to do that? That would be ideal. But other characters that they could use: X-23, Havok (being Scotts brother would give this a nice angle) or what about Angel, who had no lines anyway in X3? I mean, he is cool, the crowd knows him and it would be an easy fit. I dont know, anyone but Gambit or Jubilee.

 

[DrChronic]

Alan cumming wont reprise his role he said so, if nightcrawler was to come back it would be played by someone else. Well i say Alan wouldnt come back... it seems only Mystique loves doning the blue paint as both alan and kesley didnt care much for the long hours of make up. But if they paid them alot they would see them again. However Fox and Marvel said they had told everything they wanted to say with Nightcrawlers character so there was no reason for his return. He pretty much was a solo character.

X-23 wouldnt work in the x-men stories without wolverine, however It may be possible for her to appear in a future Wolverine sequel

Havok again difficult to incorporate unless your brining back cyclops but there is a difficult characteristics and story to have him. But i have the perfect actor for him... that guy who played boone in Lost has simulare featurea to james madsen aka Cyclops.

Angel could be developed on, i mean ive seen ben foster do psycho in hostage and would be brilliant if they did the whole archangel story. He could do twisted.

Jubilee is a background character like, Jones, Artie, Flea you know the other students. i just dont think she can hold good stories

 

[DrChronic]

To introduce Gambit - you need sinister a guy who can reverse the effects of the cure. and reverse rogue's powers hopefully seeing her fly and super strength. so would Rogue become good or evil, whose side would she take?

 

[Snikt 6]

I see your point, but I still think there could be someone better than Remy. But the tie-in with Rogue and Remy could work, if written right. Rogue HAS to stay good.

 

[DrChronic]

Not necessarly, Rogue now lost her powers would do anything to regain them after iceman loses her turst. So she goes on the run only stumbling upon gambit who has had his powers advanced and tells of mr sinister who is his kind of boss. Rogue and Gambit for a bond and soon lust for each other. Rogue undergos Sinisters undoing of the cure but her mind is slightly warped into helping Sinisters plans. However how can the x-men fight against rogue who is good. Unlike pyro, she is aiding sinisters cause but not becuase she is thinking sainly.

 

[Snikt 6]

All good thoughts. But at the end of X3 we know that the "cure" is really not a cure at all. So what happens when Rogue's powers turn on by themselves?

 

[DrChronic]

ah that was just a little nudge. Rogue is a level 1 mutant, Magneto was a level 3. no doubt the cure would of not worked as easly