What'chu Gonna Do When the Wrestling Thread Runs Wild On You?!

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[Hotwire]

New thread coming, I vote for....


UUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH What A Rush Of A Wrestling Thread!

 

[Metallo]

Allow me to explain one more time...

INCLUDING Heroes Of Wrestling....I believe that Hardy vs Sting is the worst PPV main event I had heard of (I hadnt heard of the Goldberg/DDP fiasco).

Now...I am NOT going back on my word...I am INCLUDING Heroes Of Wrestling. The reason why is very simple...NO ONE expected a high quality match that night. NO ONE expected the match to mean anything at all even in the short term. The people who bought that PPV had no reason to believe that it would be anything more than a goofy, nostalgic night of wrestling, with guys way past their prime who shouldnt even be in the ring. Sting vs Hardy was for a world title...one that is recognized and covered by every wrestling news organization. This match had major importance, and was promoted to be a huge match with huge ramifications for months to come.

Just because nobody expected a major wrestling match do you think people EXPECTED to be offended with Jake Roberts jacking his damn snake off and forcing women in the crowd to fondle him? Do you think people expected the card as it was advertised? You've once again changed the arguments into something else. The Jeff hardy match was the bigger deal but I'm talking about the worst. Almost the whole Heroes of Wrestling ppv was wrestlecrap bad.

However, what several people have tried to explain to you is...Heroes Of Wrestling was a one time goofball event that no one took seriously. Unlike ECW, AWA, Mid South, TNA etc etc etc Heroes Of Wrestling had no storylines...no ongoing feuds...no promises to feature any of the wrestlers ever again...no titles...no history...they had NOTHING. They had less going for it than your average local indie fed. It was a one time experiment to see if people would pay to see washed up broken down wrestlers, just for the sake of seeing them again. You simply CANNOT seriously be comparing this to an ECW PPV event, as if the two were in any way similar outside of the "sport" of wrestling being involved.

"several" people as in two people? And what you don't seem to get is that a bad show is a bad show. The had more of those ppvs planned and it ended up being SO damn bad that all those plans were scrapped and the PPV bombed. If people weren't EXPECTING something better that show would have one a much better buyrate. It didn't. If it had done well they would have done more. They didn't.

What you don't understand is people at least EXPECTED a good wrestling show. Nobody expected drunken idiocy. They didn't even get a good show.

At least Hardy vs Sting GAVE us a finish. WCW f***** up so bad that people got ripped off of their money that night and didn't even get to see Golberg vs DDP. Then they ripped people off again at Halloween Havoc 99 and again at Bash at the Beach 2000...and that was on purpose. Certain people weren't high they were just a***holes.

And for the record...last night I defeated my dog Honey Bunny to win the world title for the 800th time. Also, I am undefeated, as I have lost my smile 799 times, and had to forfeit each time. So, I have the most world title reigns, and the longest win streak in wrestling history...please mention that if anyone ever tries to tell you that some other wrestler actually holds those records.

Did Jeff Hardy lend you some of his stash?

 

[Heretic]

Eh...

If I go to an indie show, and it's full of washed up old timers who I was well on my way to forgetting about that have blown through their money on hard living and have to keep wrestling til they drop dead...yeah, I expect a train wreck. I'm actually surprised whenever a wrestler like that DOES handle himself professionally.

 

[Metallo]

Originally Posted by Hunter Rider
Sting could actually walk out as I'm pretty sure putting him out there with a coked up co-worker is a breach of contract.

Sting probably didn't want to be a guy that no showed a match. I've never heard of him doing that before and he's always at least treid to hold up his end even if the other guy didn't. Maybe he was hoping managment would send a replacment out for Hardy.

Either way Hardy never should have been out there.

Originally Posted by Superark
It's amazing to me that even the people in Hollywood had more sense about Charlie Sheen to let him go and yet TNA cannot even handle Jeff Hardy correctly.

But the owners of Two And Half Men tried to keep the show going with Sheen as long as possible

it wasn't his obvious drug problems and wild behavior that got the show put on hold or even what got him fired

He got fired after verbally running down The shows producer and making thinly veiled remarks over the guy being a jew. THEN CBS got pissed.

I'm really curious to how he felt about coming back to TNA after this incident. By all accounts he does not need the money and comes back because he has a good relationship with Dixie and she gives him the schedule that allows him to be a family man and spend time with his wife and kids (plus they always offer him a nice check). I wouldn't be surprised if Sting felt like he didn't need that kinda of crap in his life and threatened to leave. I've never in the 20 years I've been a Sting fan, have seen him act the way he did last night.

I think he'll stick with them. The reason he's never gone to WWE is that he has no guarantee of how he'll be used.

Vince McMahon basically blackmailed Starrcade off the air 20 + years ago and didn't give a f*** about Sting or his job. There are plenty of stories like that with Vince McMahon. I think he just doesn't trust Vince at all. but moe and more reports are that there there never WERE talks between WWE and Sting this year so I don't see why some people are bringing that up.

Eh...

If I go to an indie show, and it's full of washed up old timers who I was well on my way to forgetting about that have blown through their money on hard living and have to keep wrestling til they drop dead...yeah, I expect a train wreck. I'm actually surprised whenever a wrestler like that DOES handle himself professionally.

Yokozuna was like 33 years old. How was he an old timer? Even at an indie show they shouldn't put someone on who is CLEARLY intoxicated.

A local Indie show where I live booked Roberts and didn't put him on BECAUSE HE COULDN'T perform so again if you are right why didn't my local promoter put Jake on? He didn't because people expected them to at least TRY to give a good show. Nobody pays for bullsh** like what Roberts did. How do you know Roberts wouldn't have accidentally hurt someone? Especially when he has a damn python?

When people pay money they expect a guy NOT to come out messed up and high/drunk whether they are washed up or not.

A TON of changes were made to the advertised card. People expected Gordon Solie and he didn't appear. Was Solie not expected to appear because he was an old wrestler too?

Most of those people on the card at least showed up sober and tried to put on a good show. Tully Blanchard really tried.

 

[Superark]

Vince McMahon basically blackmailed Starrcade off the air 20 + years ago and didn't give a f*** about Sting or his job. There are plenty of stories like that with Vince McMahon. I think he just doesn't trust Vince at all. but moe and more reports are that there there never WERE talks between WWE and Sting this year so I don't see why some people are bringing that up.

I don't care if he goes to WWE or not. I wasn't talking about it in this context. Sting would just stay home.

I expect him to stick with TNA as well, but I'm very curious as to what his reaction was backstage since he was so visibly upset on camera.

 

[Superark]

Man the twitter responses to Dixie Carter are brutal. She is getting lit up by the fans about last night's main event

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

ok i missed it what the hell happened

 

[Metallo]

Does Triple H RELISH being an a**hole? The guy is really making fun of The Big Show on this dvd and talks about how Show fell down (and could have really hurt himself) getting off a plane then later HHH tells the whole story at a press conference.

Does anyone get to make fun of him and the big banana on his face?

I don't care if he goes to WWE or not. I wasn't talking about it in this context. Sting would just stay home.

I expect him to stick with TNA as well, but I'm very curious as to what his reaction was backstage since he was so visibly upset on camera.

I know you didn't mean that but some other people seem to think Sting will be WWE bound after last night. Just because TNA screwed up I doubt Stings opinions on Vince McMahon and wanting to work that schedule would change.

Man the twitter responses to Dixie Carter are brutal. She is getting lit up by the fans about last night's main event

Unlike the 3-3-11 promo backlash Dixie deserves the anger this time. I don't understand why the hell they would let Jeff Hardy go out and perform when they could have changed the card.

 

[Superark]

What also amazes me about how bad Hardy's addiction is and his unprofessionalism is the fact he was scheduled to wrestle a guy who was legitamately his idol growing up and perhaps his favorite wrestler, and he completely disrespected Sting showing up in that condition.

You would think Hardy would have been stoked about having a one-on-one PPV match with one of his childhood heroes and would want to have the best match as possible. Instead he shows up wasted.

I mean you can even see Hardy stumble as he's trying to get in the ring.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

seriously guys what happened

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

double post

 

[Metallo]

Evil, Hardy showed up at the TNA ppv high and couldn't perform. TNA was stupid enough to send him out there to wrestle, and somebody made the decision to end the match fast.

Superark, He just didn't give a f*** and is in total denial about his problem.

The thing that annoys me about Hardy the most is he's facing a serious sentence for drug charges and he's STILL getting messed up. He has a child now and he can't be doing this kind of stuff around her. Even Shawn Michaels got the wakeup call after he had kids and realized his pill popping foolishness wasn't going to cut it once he had kids depending on him.

The TNA locker room really needs to give Dixie an ultimatum here. Something needs to be done. If he won't do rehab then fire him.

 

[Superark]

credit to www.pwinsider.com

More on Hardy-TNA

A decision should be made on Jeff Hardy anytime now. Meetings are ongoing in Orlando. There are forces pushing for him to be sent home from TV.


Sting was always scheduled to go over at last night's PPV, although obviously not in the manner that took place.
Also in regard to a rumor that made the rounds last night (which we did not report here), Hardy was not arrested yesterday. There is absolutely NOTHING to that story.

 

[Superark]

double post darnit

 

[Superark]

MORE ON JEFF HARDY-TNA
by Mike Johnson @ 11:32 AM on 3/14/2011

A decision should be made on Jeff Hardy any time now. Meetings are ongoing in Orlando. There are forces pushing for him to be sent home from TV.


Sting was always scheduled to go over at last night's PPV, although obviously not in the manner that took place.

Also in regard to a rumor that made the rounds last night (which we did not report
here), Hardy was not arrested yesterday. There is absolutely NOTHING to that story. The Hardy situation led to his name trending in The United States on Twitter.

www.pwinsider.com

 

[Superark]

dang five posts. I hate when the site moves slow. a reminder not to hit quick reply too many times

 

[Superark]

MORE ON JEFF HARDY-TNA
by Mike Johnson @ 11:32 AM on 3/14/2011

A decision should be made on Jeff Hardy any time now. Meetings are ongoing in Orlando. There are forces pushing for him to be sent home from TV.


Sting was always scheduled to go over at last night's PPV, although obviously not in the manner that took place.

Also in regard to a rumor that made the rounds last night (which we did not report here), Hardy was not arrested yesterday. There is absolutely NOTHING to that story.

The Hardy situation led to his name trending in The United States on Twitter.

www.pwinsider.com

 

[louiebling$]

New suggestion for the new name for the Thread :I Bring It Via The Pro Wrestling Thread

 

[The Sage]

They need to do more than send Jeff home. REHAB.

 

[Heretic]

I love that TNA is having trouble deciding whether or not to use Jeff hardy on Impact. It's so obvious that major disciplinary action should be taken, but they just can't bring themselves to do it.

 

[chapin]

I bet Vince is happy

 

[Metallo]

I doubt Vince cares a whole lot.

Besides he was the the first person to try and sign Jeff Hardy to a contract AFTER he got busted on drug charges. Vince is just one of many in a long list of people that have enabled Jeff Hardy. He never should have gotten away with any of the stuff he did. Even after his wellness violations Vince still put the world title on him.

Everybody needs to quit trying to make money off Hardy and punish him to give him a wake up call.

 

[The Sage]

I don't know if it would make Vince happy. I'm sure anyone in the locker room who is friends with Jeff is shaking their head at his actions, especially those that worked to get him over.

New suggestion for the new name for the Thread :I Bring It Via The Pro Wrestling Thread

Haha.

Marx, Hunter, how about it?

 

[enterthemadness]

I just know, I want to read the spoilers to the tv tapins this week AND watch the shows as well.

Give me 4-5 hours with the wrestlers there, and I could write/produce a better show. It be all wrestling with little promos, but its called Total Non-Stop Action for a reason.

Then again, I bet AJ and co in the locker room could do the same.