Where does Iron Man 2 stand among other superhero sequels?

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  1. Iron_Stark

    Iron_Stark That's a one-off

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    That's the thing Favreau said from the very begining this movie was going to be the same running time as the first one. So guess who should've been cut.

    But you're right about Marvel making bad decisons, Favs wanted to wait on putting War Machine in the series, Marvel wanted him there now especially after Howard got fired and then had the script reworked.

    Vanko attacking drunk Tony was my idea.:cwink:
     
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  2. Mrs. Sawyer

    Mrs. Sawyer Well-Known Member

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    oh. :up::up::up:
     
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    /Iron Man 2/
    blade 2
    hellboy 2
    xmen 2
    Iron Man 2
    spiderman 2
    superman 2 Donner cut
    hellboy 2
    batman returns
    tdk
     
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  4. ghostrider92

    ghostrider92 Well-Known Member

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    let me start by saying your are still creditable transformers 2 could have been a great sequel had it not been for the writers strike . the first was awesome and the third installment will be great .
     
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  5. Chris Wallace

    Chris Wallace LET'S DO A HEADCOUNT...

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    "Missed opportunities" seems to be the most commonly used phrase in this thread.
     
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  6. Mrs. Sawyer

    Mrs. Sawyer Well-Known Member

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    Well its true. I liked Iron Man 2, but I'd be an idiot not to realize that this film had several missed opportunities.
     
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  7. Son of Coul

    Son of Coul Not 100% A Dick

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    I just rewatched it again and its still pretty awesome. Most of the complaints just seem silly when you take another look at it. Here and there some stuff could've been patched, but I could say the exact same about the first (or any) movie. Still not quite as good as the first, but also still a solid helluva lotta fun.
     
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  8. Mrs. Sawyer

    Mrs. Sawyer Well-Known Member

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    And that's my opinion about the film too in the end. It's not as good the first Iron Man, but its still I film I would watch again.
     
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  9. Chris Wallace

    Chris Wallace LET'S DO A HEADCOUNT...

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    We're treating Favreau like the kid who brought home a "C" in a subject that he normally aces. That's what it really comes down to. We expected better. This is like the only 2nd installment of a superhero franchise in the past decade that didn't surpass the original.
     
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  10. Mrs. Sawyer

    Mrs. Sawyer Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't say C. I'd call it a B- or B.
     
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  11. Chris Wallace

    Chris Wallace LET'S DO A HEADCOUNT...

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    It's a "C" compared to the first one. But overall you're right. We had A+++++ expectations, thought-especially in the wake of the trailers.
     
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  12. Upset Spideyfan

    Upset Spideyfan Look on the bright side

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    For me its above average but not up there with the best and a step down from the first one.

    B- or C+
     
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  13. Iron_Stark

    Iron_Stark That's a one-off

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    It's a really, really good movie, a whole hell of a lot better than most comic book movies out there, it just isn't in that elite level like the first one.

    And it all comes down to giving the villains the shaft.

    Look at the great movies out there, Empire Strikes Back, Dark Knight, Spider-Man 2, they were great for many reasons, but also as important was because all had great and memorable villains.

    Mickey Rourke could have easily been up there with them. He could've easily put a D-List villain up there with the greats. He could've done for Whiplash what Downey Jr. did for Iron Man and put an unknown character as an A-Lister.

    But instead they decided having War Machine was just more important.
     
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  14. Brain Damage

    Brain Damage Everything Under the Sun

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    Couldn't have said it better myself. I remember the first I saw Iron Man, the second it was over I couldn't help but think how great the sequel would be. Tony's alcoholism being played for laughs was almost as bad as the symbiote in Spider-Man 3.
     
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  15. Fudgie

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    It's one of the weakest sequels.
     
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    El Payaso Well-Known Member

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    For all I know he has come home with only two tests: A and C. Never seen any other Favreau movie. But I don't think his "A" was just a coincidence.
     
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  17. Fudgie

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    He should have stayed for the third one. I don't like when directors jump ship. Bryan Singer I'm looking at you.
     
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  18. StarLord

    StarLord Boogeyman

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    Not sure if this has been posted before but I'm reading it on my Blackberry and thought I'd post it anyway:

    http://moviecarpet.com/2011/10/31/mickey-rourke-on-where-iron-man-2-went-wrong/
     
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  19. redhawk23

    redhawk23 Wrestlin'

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    The script for this film is a complete mess. There is no real story reason for many of the character's inclusion in the film. If you listen to the commentaries, Justin Hammer was added to the film for the sole purpose of having Sam Rockwell be in the movie, regardless of how over stuffed the film already was. There were several scenes, including the whole senate hearing where they just filmed and filmed and essentially wrote the scenes in the editing room. Definitely a weak spot in the phase one films.
     
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  20. redhawk23

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    Meh, If a director is no longer inspired or committed to a property then good riddance.

    The problem with X3 isn't that Singer left, its that Brett Ratner was his replacement.
     
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  21. Mrs. Sawyer

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    It's not even that. I can't even blame Ratner for X3 because he didn't really have any control. I don't think any director could put out a great movie working under the conditions Fox had for X3. Ratner didn't have much creative control and other directors turned it down because of how Fox was.
     
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  22. Spider-Aziz

    Spider-Aziz Raul Boston's Dish Gaunt

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    As far as it's placed among sequels.....
    1. The Dark Knight
    2. The Avengers (same world, and a sequel to 5 different movies. I'm counting it in)
    3. X-Men 2
    4. Superman 2
    5. Thor (Sequel to Coulsoon's story in IM2)
    6. The Dark Knight Rises
    7. Spider-Man 3
    8. X-Men 3
    9. Iron Man 2
    10. Spider-Man 2
    11. Superman Returns
    12. Batman Forever
    13. Superman 3
    14. Batman & Robin
    15. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2
    Then comes the rest
     
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  23. Chris Wallace

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    Same here. Though I do like it more now than I did 2 years ago.
     
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  24. Bowie

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    I honestly thought that Iron Man 2 was only slightly above average. The great Mickey Rourke was tragically underused in this film.
     
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  25. kedrell

    kedrell Fork&SpoonOperator

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    Even though it's not as good as the first film, when stacked up against other superhero movie sequels I'd still have to rank it right at the top.
     
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