Chris Wallace
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I'm just trying to see where people's heads are.
also, gotham knight, motp, and 66
Bb & tdk
Batman
Batman Returns
Good for what they are
Batman Forever
Ok,guilty pleasure at best,if you don't think about all the characters being ruined,lol
Batman and Robin
NO
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Epic winny Badassery Awesomenesssssss
Nothing prior? You just disavow everything else?
I feel you. Honestly, I've pointed out the flaws & inconsistencies in Burton's film several times but got viciously attacked by a great many Bat-fans who can't take the slightest critique of their beloved films, while they show no hesitation in dumping all over mine. That said, apart from the opening scene (riddled with non sequiturs & just a general lack of purpose for Batman), the scene in Vicki's apartment (which served only to establish Joker as the killer of Bruce's parents-another move I didn't agree with) and Batman having no compunction about killing whatsoever, I enjoyed the film greatly, mainly for its imagery & the performances. It was a nice way to introduce us to the Dark Knight, which we hadn't really seen up until then. Bearing in mind also that Burton has publicly stated that he would never read a comic book, we have to be somewhat tolerant of his missing the mark.No. I like MOTP a lot.
The thread asked what films we CURRENTLY liked. I certainly enjoyed B89 when I was 10 and never really liked Batman Returns, Forever or B & R. I appreciate BR a lot more today as a Burton, not Batman, film.
I appreciate the memories of enjoying B89 as a kid but haven't enjoyed any of the Burton films since the animated series demonstrated just how far off the mark these films were. B89, to me, feels inconsistent and just really odd. Other people here like it so I'm not going to get drawn into an endless debate.
Today, I like to imagine B89 and Returns as "what if" films like Superman: Red Son. What if the Joker was a chubby, wealthy gangster who killed Bruce's parents? What if Batman was so reclusive that he never even developed a relationship with Gordon and was willing to murder?
Interesting idea to explore but not really what I consider to be proper Batman story. I don't really want to turn this thread into a Nolan vs. Burton debate though. They are just how I feel about the films personally and not meant to change what other people feel.
I feel you. Honestly, I've pointed out the flaws & inconsistencies in Burton's film several times but got viciously attacked by a great many Bat-fans who can't take the slightest critique of their beloved films, while they show no hesitation in dumping all over mine. That said, apart from the opening scene (riddled with non sequiturs & just a general lack of purpose for Batman), the scene in Vicki's apartment (which served only to establish Joker as the killer of Bruce's parents-another move I didn't agree with) and Batman having no compunction about killing whatsoever, I enjoyed the film greatly, mainly for its imagery & the performances. It was a nice way to introduce us to the Dark Knight, which we hadn't really seen up until then. Bearing in mind also that Burton has publicly stated that he would never read a comic book, we have to be somewhat tolerant of his missing the mark.
Batman
Batman Returns
Good for what they are
Batman Forever
Ok,guilty pleasure at best,if you don't think about all the characters being ruined,lol
Batman and Robin
NO
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Epic winny Badassery Awesomenesssssss
dittoAll save for Batman and Robin.