The Amazing Spider-Man Which Incarnation of Spider-Man?

[DACMAN]

Which incarnation of Spider-Man is your favorite and want to see on screen the most for the next film?

And yes I know this is a reboot so I shouldn't have the "Maguire Spider-Man" up there, but some people wish we were still getting that for the next film so I included it. And I left out the current Brand New Day Spider-Man. Why? Because it would be insulting to the rest of the poll and all who read it.

I had to think about it for a while. It's a tie for me between Ultimate Spider-Man and Spider-Man 616 Married to MJ. But, I think I like Spidey the best when he's a married man and not still a kid in high school. But it was freaken close.

 

[spider-neil]

in the comics its lee/ditko on the screen its SSM a mix of the two would make me very happen.

 

[saiyanaida]

The Hollywood reporter already confirmed that it will be based on Ultimate Spiderman

http://riskybusiness.blogs.thr.com/...ets-director-marc-webb-of-500-days-of-summer/


The director Marc Webb has already said he is a fan of Ulimate Spiderman

http://riskybusiness.blogs.thr.com/...ets-director-marc-webb-of-500-days-of-summer/


The writer and Creator of Ultimate Spiderman was at a staff meeting with the entire reboot team at Sony

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/will-the-spider-man-reboot-be-of-the-ultimate-kind-9246

 

[Ethermatic]

The Hollywood reporter already confirmed that it will be based on Ultimate Spiderman

http://riskybusiness.blogs.thr.com/...ets-director-marc-webb-of-500-days-of-summer/


The director Marc Webb has already said he is a fan of Ulimate Spiderman

http://riskybusiness.blogs.thr.com/...ets-director-marc-webb-of-500-days-of-summer/


The writer and Creator of Ultimate Spiderman was at a staff meeting with the entire reboot team at Sony

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/will-the-spider-man-reboot-be-of-the-ultimate-kind-9246

We get that you're supportive of Ultimate Spider-Man, but the poll is asking us what version of Spider-Man we'd like to see on the screen regardless of what we might actually be getting.

 

[saiyanaida]

You're missing the 90's cartoon, which is the best adaptation

 

[The Joker]

You're missing the 90's cartoon, which is the best adaptation

No, it's really not. It's actually one of the worst. It had some good episodes to be sure, especially in the first season. But overall it was very unfaithful to the source. The overuse of Kingpin, and how nearly every villain was tied to him was the most annoying thing about it.

I also hated how Hobgoblin came long before Green Goblin.

 

[Steyin]

I'd prefer any version but the Ultimate one, which is my main gripe with this reboot at the moment.

 

[©KAW]

If the core of Spider-Man isn't Stan Lee-Ditko's, anything else and you can keep expecting the firing of directors/cast and rebooting every few films.

 

[zeptron]

You're missing the 90's cartoon, which is the best adaptation

Yeah. It was the cartoon where...

Spider-man doesn't punch any villains

Constantly uses stock footage

Spider-man yells MARRRRRRRRRRRRRY JAAAAAAAAAAAANE

Doc Ock is nothing but a lackey to Kingpin

Norman Osborn is nothing but a whiny little *****

Where people get sucked into portals

Almost every story is tied to Kingpin

Almost every single action Spidey took needed some explanation. No matter how obvious or mundane, through completely annoying voice-over narration.

Doesn't mention the words die and kill

Where the word Insidious is used instead of Six

Where Spider-man turns into a Spider monster that pukes acid

Where Carnage absorbs people's life forces to revive a mystical demon

Where Electro is the Red Skull's son

Where Morbius is treated like a major villain and had more appearances than some of Spidey's major villians.


Yeah it was the best cartoon all right.....

No, it's really not. It's actually one of the worst. It had some good episodes to be sure, especially in the first season. But overall it was very unfaithful to the source. The overuse of Kingpin, and how nearly every villain was tied to him was the most annoying thing about it.

I also hated how Hobgoblin came long before Green Goblin.

This actually didn't bother me. What matters is that both characters showed up within the space of the first three seasons. It was an interesting spin on the way it happened in the comics - the role reversal was interesting and I don't want to see everything from the comics adapted without some kind of interesting change somewhere down the line to ensure that it's being creative and not copying the comic all the time.

 

[TheSlag]

If the core of Spider-Man isn't Stan Lee-Ditko's, anything else and you can keep expecting the firing of directors/cast and rebooting every few films.

Exactly. They can take aspects of Ultimate or other incarnations, but the CORE has to be Stan Lee/Ditko's Spider-Man.

 

[saiyanaida]

If the core of Spider-Man isn't Stan Lee-Ditko's, anything else and you can keep expecting the firing of directors/cast and rebooting every few films.

Sam Raimi's Trilogy was based on Lee-Ditko, 1960's, 616, whatever you wanna refer to it as. Baring things like costume changes, combing Gwen and Mary Jane into one person,etc, Raimi's Trilogy stuck close to the amazing Spiderman. I don't see what Raimi could have done major to make it more like Amazing unless he placed it in the 1960's, but we all saw how that worked out for Superman Returns. Ultimate Spiderman is a great comic


Hollywood reporter already confirmed that the core will be Ultimate

http://riskybusiness.blogs.thr.com/...ets-director-marc-webb-of-500-days-of-summer/

 

[The Joker]

This actually didn't bother me. What matters is that both characters showed up within the space of the first three seasons.

It mattered to me. It'd be like Carnage coming before Venom. Harry being the Green Goblin before Norman. Tim Drake being Robin before Dick Grayson etc.

The time frame of them showing up within the first three seasons doesn't matter. Greg Weisman stated he has plans for Hobgoblin if they ever get a season 3 for the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon. Suits me. The Goblin pecking order has been firmly established in that cartoon.

 

[saiyanaida]

It mattered to me. It'd be like Carnage coming before Venom. Harry being the Green Goblin before Norman. Tim Drake being Robin before Dick Grayson etc.

The time frame of them showing up within the first three seasons doesn't matter. Greg Weisman stated he has plans for Hobgoblin if they ever get a season 3 for the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon. Suits me. The Goblin pecking order has been firmly established in that cartoon.

Comics are not Manga or Anime, which has one set universe and one set storyline by the original creator. This is why by the way a main reason why manga will always be superior to comics, Comics have multiple source material it can use, 616 is the first,but isn't the only source that can mold other meduim.

 

[zeptron]

It mattered to me. It'd be like Carnage coming before Venom. Harry being the Green Goblin before Norman. Tim Drake being Robin before Dick Grayson etc.

The time frame of them showing up within the first three seasons doesn't matter. Greg Weisman stated he has plans for Hobgoblin if they ever get a season 3 for the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon. Suits me. The Goblin pecking order has been firmly established in that cartoon.

To each his own I guess.

Semper has said that he had that decision forced on him by the toy lines.

 

[The Joker]

Comics are not Manga or Anime

Thank god. They both suck!

Comics have multiple source material it can use

Yeah, over 60 years of 616 material t:

Ultimate Spider-Man just took Stan Lee's ideas and perverted them. Especially with the villains.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Lee/Ditko is a very specific time in Spidey comics. Lee was on the book far after Ditko left, so what about Lee/Romita? Or even when Lee left, we still had classic Spidey stories before he was married.

Breaking down 616 Spidey to 2 eras I think is a bit general.

As for what the core time should be, I'd say for first film, Lee/Ditko. For film 2, I'd say Lee/Romita, and then film 3, either late Lee or early Lee leaving.

But, they said Ultimate is the point of basis.

 

[saiyanaida]

Thank god. They both suck!



Yeah, over 60 years of 616 material t:

Ultimate Spider-Man just took Stan Lee's ideas and perverted them. Especially with the villains.

616 just doesn't fit with the modern time

 

[The Joker]

616 just doesn't fit with the modern time

I think you'll find the majority will disagree with that ludicrous opinion.

 

[TheSlag]

Sam Raimi's Trilogy was based on Lee-Ditko, 1960's, 616...

Minus the actual representation of the characters:
- Peter little like ASM Peter
- MJ nothing like ASM MJ
- Aunt May being Spidey's biggest fan
Missing characters:
- Gwen Stacy thrown in cameos nothing more
- Capt Stacy thrown in cameo
- Betty (no development)
- Flash (trhow away)
- firends to Peter/MJ (non existent)
ALL about ONE Girl (NEVER in ASM)
Villains (ALL personal connections to Peter, ALL knowing his identity)
Villains (Goblin, and Goblin 2, jokes of costumes)
Villain Development (love bitten, poetry reading Ock : Ock goes Good, Ock Da Tentacles Made me Do it, Venom (throw away character by Raimi)

ETC. ETC.

Yep. Totally based on. NOT!!!

 

[Spider-Fan]

616 just doesn't fit with the modern time

Sure, Aunt May can't watch the Ed Sullivan show and crap like that, but the era is not unadaptable just because it took place in the 60's. You can modernize certain details, easy. The stories themselves are still relevant and more than doable. Saying we have to go ultimate just cause it's new and fresh is a cop out.

 

[spider-neil]

everyone seems to be giving USM a rough ride but let's be honest here if I wanted to read lee/ditko again I would read lee/ditko. bendis needed to make changes otherwise they may as well have reprinted the 60's comics

 

[DACMAN]

I'd prefer any version but the Ultimate one, which is my main gripe with this reboot at the moment.

And it's the reason I couldn't be more excited about this movie. Bendis took all the good ideas from the Lee/Ditko run and updated them. There may be some things in there some people don't like, but for the most part it is pure gold. I dare say the Ultimate run (issues 1-133 and Requiem) were better than the Lee/Ditko run.

 

[DACMAN]

If the core of Spider-Man isn't Stan Lee-Ditko's, anything else and you can keep expecting the firing of directors/cast and rebooting every few films.

The core of Ultimate Spider-Man is Lee/Ditko.

everyone seems to be giving USM a rough ride but let's be honest here if I wanted to read lee/ditko again I would read lee/ditko. bendis needed to make changes otherwise they may as well have reprinted the 60's comics

Great point. And maybe it's me but I thought Ultimate Carnage was awesome. He was actually scary. And Bendis wrote the perfect Peter in Ultimate. People can beat up on Ultimate all they want, but at the end of the day people loved it so much they're making movies based on it now, and the current cartoon is based strongly on it.

 

[The Joker]

Minus the actual representation of the characters:
- Peter little like ASM Peter
- MJ nothing like ASM MJ
- Aunt May being Spidey's biggest fan
Missing characters:
- Gwen Stacy thrown in cameos nothing more
- Capt Stacy thrown in cameo
- Betty (no development)
- Flash (trhow away)
- firends to Peter/MJ (non existent)
ALL about ONE Girl (NEVER in ASM)
Villains (ALL personal connections to Peter, ALL knowing his identity)
Villains (Goblin, and Goblin 2, jokes of costumes)
Villain Development (love bitten, poetry reading Ock : Ock goes Good, Ock Da Tentacles Made me Do it, Venom (throw away character by Raimi)

ETC. ETC.

Yep. Totally based on. NT!!!

Sure, Aunt May can't watch the Ed Sullivan show and crap like that, but the era is not unadaptable just because it took place in the 60's. You can modernize certain details, easy. The stories themselves are still relevant and more than doable. Saying we have to go ultimate just cause it's new and fresh is a cop out.

everyone seems to be giving USM a rough ride but let's be honest here if I wanted to read lee/ditko again I would read lee/ditko. bendis needed to make changes otherwise they may as well have reprinted the 60's comics

Yeah, nobody is disputing that he had to make changes. Just that most of the changes that he made were lame. Mainly regarding the villains.

Hulk Goblin, Ock-Neto, Kraven the TV star, Shocker the ******, Hobgoblin the mute armadillo, Carnage the mindless life sucking entity, Rhino the midget in a robot suit etc.

These were not changes for the better. Although, Doc Ock before the Ultimate Clone Saga was badass. A shame Bendis ruined him by making him a Magneto knock off.

 

[Spider-Fan]

And it's the reason I couldn't be more excited about this movie. Bendis took all the good ideas from the Lee/Ditko run and updated them. There may be some things in there some people don't like, but for the most part it is pure gold. I dare say the Ultimate run (issues 1-133 and Requiem) were better than the Lee/Ditko run.

This is what I mean when I say there is no definitive Spider-Man. I completely disagree with the notion that USM is better than the Lee/Ditko run, but this is an opinion many people have.

Just so everyone knows, I don't hate USM. It was a good book for a while (but got stupid around when Carnage came along). But, the book had a lot of bad villain ideas. Most of the good centered around Peter himself.