Silvermoth
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I would love to see the Dark Avengers but I know that would never happen.
I guess as a greedy fan, I would want to see every story that would force them to assemble, but storytelling-wise, I can understand what you're getting at, especially if you want to move things along.This just occurred to me (so it might be a really bad idea) but now I wonder if there would be any benefit to starting A2 in media res, just before the end of a strong action sequence with the Avengers already assembled, and handily defeating some new threat (who may not necessarily be related to rest of the film). Then after the battle maybe they get a call from Hill that Fury was assassinated, or the GotG arrive with dire news, or something else crazy like that, and boom, the real plot starts. On the one hand, doing that could save a lot of screen time by demonstrating that fighting bad guys together is "what they do" now, and that they've already created a sort of camaraderie -- as well as grabbing the audience with a nice action hook, and re-introducing the characters through little quips of dialog. OTOH, I can see how it could cheapen the development of those bonds if it isn't shown on screen -- but forging those bonds is what the first movie was all about, right? We don't need to sit through that every time they assemble.
The way I'm viewing the (presumed) Avengers trilogy is as a 3-act play, on a cosmic scale, with the whole Avengers team (as a single entity) being the Protagonist and Thanos being the Antagonist. The first act introduced the two characters with a big win for the Avengers, and now the second act will need to start with that high point, and then introduce complications.
Thanks for the welcome! Those are actually some really good points, that I don't completely disagree with. I think it probably could be done, but it would be risky, and I'll concede it might not be the best option. Like I said... it's just what came to my mind with the conflicting directions of personal & cosmic, and with my limited (so-far) exposure to the comic arcs. I'm imagining how these characters can continue to organically develop their trust, and then have it tested. But *If* something like what I suggested were to happen, then I think any inter-hero mistrust would either have to be minimized (maybe if it were only revealed in the 3rd act?), or even removed altogether -- maybe just the government & council have been infiltrated... (I don't trust those shadows that boss Fury around!). I *really* like Chewy's idea to "split the party" by diverging plot lines, and I definitely want to see something of Wakanda at some point.
(Actually, Pirates might have been a good example. All I can remember from the 2nd movie is: a giant hamster wheel, a jar of dirt, Cthulhu plays the organ, and Jack gets swallowed. I forget what turned me off, but at some point, I realized I had less than zero interest in seeing another one. I'm still surprised they made the 3rd film. What? There's more???)
This just occurred to me (so it might be a really bad idea) but now I wonder if there would be any benefit to starting A2 in media res, just before the end of a strong action sequence with the Avengers already assembled, and handily defeating some new threat (who may not necessarily be related to rest of the film). Then after the battle maybe they get a call from Hill that Fury was assassinated, or the GotG arrive with dire news, or something else crazy like that, and boom, the real plot starts. On the one hand, doing that could save a lot of screen time by demonstrating that fighting bad guys together is "what they do" now, and that they've already created a sort of camaraderie -- as well as grabbing the audience with a nice action hook, and re-introducing the characters through little quips of dialog. OTOH, I can see how it could cheapen the development of those bonds if it isn't shown on screen -- but forging those bonds is what the first movie was all about, right? We don't need to sit through that every time they assemble.
The way I'm viewing the (presumed) Avengers trilogy is as a 3-act play, on a cosmic scale, with the whole Avengers team (as a single entity) being the Protagonist and Thanos being the Antagonist. The first act introduced the two characters with a big win for the Avengers, and now the second act will need to start with that high point, and then introduce complications.