Homecoming Who should reboot villain be? (Poll Version) - Part 1

[NotSoLongAgo]

Well if they spend some time developing the villains origin before he goes Vulture. I can see an 1hr 25 minute film being pulled off. But since Vulture is old in most comics the first punch from Spider-Man would realistically kill him.

That is unless as you said they alter some of his comic book aspects for the film. They could make him younger and/or perhaps give him armor that Spider-Man wouldn't be able to penetrate. Since Falcon has guns, I assume the could give Vulture the energy wings that he can blast energy feathers like Falcon in the comics.

Thats such a short running time

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Well if they spend some time developing the villains origin before he goes Vulture. I can see an 1hr 25 minute film being pulled off. But since Vulture is old in most comics the first punch from Spider-Man would realistically kill him.

That is unless as you said they alter some of his comic book aspects for the film. They could make him younger and/or perhaps give him armor that Spider-Man wouldn't be able to penetrate. Since Falcon has guns, I assume the could give Vulture the energy wings that he can blast energy feathers like Falcon in the comics.

That's way too short, the film should be at least 2 hours.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I'm curious to if they could make an entire movie with Vulture as the sole big bad. Since he isn't really a powerful villain like Lizard, Goblin or Doc Ock.

While I definitely could see a Vulture movie, I don't think he should be by himself. To me, Vulture is a guy who has legitimate grievances against people, but goes against it in the wrong way. Spider-Man could do a good job trying to stop him and would end up getting sucked into a bigger thing (I don't think they should repeat an Oscorp mystery, so, if not that, then maybe something to do with the mob). Vulture could lead to some really cool action scenes as Spider-Man is going through the skyline dealing with someone flying.

I also wouldn't change his age. For starters, it makes an awesome contrast (young Peter Parker, old Adrian Toomes). Second, he's a foe you can underestimate. His suit does give him super strength.

 

[Webhead2006]

ya i dont sew why vulture couldnt be a head liner heck i have even tossed out ideas on how they could tie toomes or if they went with draco version how they could tie it to other mcu stuff. Its all about the right hook, and story they go with. With the right story they could take hell someone like spot, hypo hustler and turn them into an engaging and viable threat. But yes not every villain needs to be take over the world destroy nyc. That isnt the mo for all his villains. Some are the sepatic ones, others they are simple criminals. We should see all types now with the mcu.

 

[ernesth100]

Thats such a short running time

That's basic minimum runtime for a movie. Unless you just want a long movie so you can see as much of Spidey as possible then I understand.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

That's basic minimum runtime for a movie. Unless you just want a long movie so you can see as much of Spidey as possible then I understand.

125 minutes is more the standard running time. 1 hr 25 minutes is more like an animated movie or a crappy comedy

 

[Webhead2006]

I do not want a 90 min movie. That is far to short for a big comic film. The standard is 2 hr to 2 hrs 20mins.

 

[ernesth100]

Edit: Nevermind I just checked.

 

[GwensNeckBrace]

I've always been indifferent towards Vulture. Never quite understood his appeal. He seems quite boring, but that's just me.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I've always been indifferent towards Vulture. Never quite understood his appeal. He seems quite boring, but that's just me.

Me too, ive always though he was corny, but alot of people say hed make for cool aerial fights

 

[PeterBenParker]

Me too, ive always though he was corny, but alot of people say hed make for cool aerial fights

He would, definitely.

The only problem I see with using Vulture is having to rewrite his character a lot to make him more compelling/interesting.

They could always go for Blackie Drago, though.

 

[Web-Head]

He would, definitely.

The only problem I see with using Vulture is having to rewrite his character a lot to make him more compelling/interesting.

They could always go for Blackie Drago, though.

Haven't even thought about Drago. Any casting ideas for him? Using Drago could be a good way to show that Spidey's been around for a while with Toomes already being defeated. I could see this being translated to the big screen: http://marvel.com/universe/Vulture_(Blackie_Drago)

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Haven't even thought about Drago. Any casting ideas for him?

Kirk Acevedo off the top of my head

 

[PeterBenParker]

Haven't even thought about Drago. Any casting ideas for him?

Depends on what version, 616 or Ultimate.

I'd say Michael Shannon for a 616 inspired Drago.
Billy Zane hehe for an Ultimate inspired Drago.

Mind you, haven't even given Drago any thought, but just thought I'd think of some choices nonetheless.

 

[PeterBenParker]

kirk acevedo off the top of my head

Yes!

 

[Mike Murdock]

Me too, ive always though he was corny, but alot of people say hed make for cool aerial fights

Frankly, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Vulture would certainly be a risk, I just think they could pull it off.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Vulture is fine as a side or team villain, I just don't think he could ever hold his own film, and he most definitely shouldn't.

Casting, John Malkovich is the obvious choice for Toomes. I like the suggestion of Shannon for Drago.

 

[Web-Head]

Vulture is fine as a side or team villain, I just don't think he could ever hold his own film, and he most definitely shouldn't.

Casting, John Malkovich is the obvious choice for Toomes. I like the suggestion of Shannon for Drago.

What about with Kraven? I can some version of this on the silver screen

After an alleged accident Adrian Toomes, the Vulture, told his cellmate, Blackie Drago, the location of his Vulture costume. As Toomes lay on his death-bed and wanting revenge on Spider-Man , he easily gave the information to Drago. Drago lied as he promised Toomes he would use the costume to defeat Spider-Man once and for all.
Later, Drago hijacked a prison car and drove through the prison gates. He found the vulture wings exactly where Toomes said they would be. Drago practiced his flying skills over Manhattan. Drago found that he was stronger than Toomes ever was and more inventive and thus designed a helmet with a short wave receiver. Blackie wasted no time starting a one-man crime wave adopting the mantle of the Vulture. The Vulture became the hot news topic in a matter of days. His only goal was to make money by performing acts of air-piracy. Due to Spider-Man's cold and apparent weakness, Blackie attacked a helicopter and stole its shipment of uncut diamonds without difficulty. His infamy as New York's greatest villain attracted the attention of not only Spider-Man, but also one of Spider-Man's greatest enemies, Kraven the Hunter.

In a major battle between Spider-Man, Kraven and the new Vulture, Kraven’s double-barreled ray missed Spider-Man and accidentally collided with the Vulture knocking him unconscious. This gave Spider-Man a chance to tear the ray out of Kraven’s vest and strike him with a heavy punch. Both villains lay defeated. Blackie was returned to prison. It was later revealed that the Toomes was alive and well.

Subsequently, Blackie and Toomes joined forces to escape, each wearing a Vulture costume. Once they were free however, Adrian publicly defeated the phoney Vulture in order to humiliate him, and regain the recognition he deserved. A defeated Drago was taken away by the police, vowing never to wear the Vulture costume again.

 

[younglink42]

You know it'd be kinda funny if Spidey's villains turned out to be the better ones in the MCU.

 

[PeterBenParker]

You know it'd be kinda funny if Spidey's villains turned out to be the better ones in the MCU.

Well, I'd hope so -- especially the big three.

 

[GwensNeckBrace]

Kraven is more like movie 2 material - particularly if they want to go the Kraven's Last Hunt Route

 

[Mike Murdock]

You know it'd be kinda funny if Spidey's villains turned out to be the better ones in the MCU.

Frankly, they should. He's got the strongest Rogue's Gallery in the Marvel Universe.

 

[The Joker]

I'm hoping Ultron will rank among the greats.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Just as long as he doesn't keep talking about how he can't puke, Ultron should be good.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Still say Vulture with his obvious ties to the MCU as the inventor of Falcon's tech makes a natural choice, particularly if we're waiting to introduce the Green Goblin and Doc Ock.