The Dark Knight Why does Maroni throw acid at Harvey?

[L.A.]

I've been thinking about this lately and for me it just doenst make any sense. Maroni who is being prosecuted by Harvey dent, hires one of harvey's assistant to throw acid at harvey during his trial? Wouldnt the assistant be charge with a crime? What was his motive? What was Maroni trying to accomplish? Make Harvey look ugly for everyone to see? A real mob boss would have either paid harvey or a judge to make the trial go away or Simply just kill him! That would Scare the **** out of any prosecutor that tries to bring Maroni on trial. Now of course if the rumours were true that the Joker is the one that would be throwing the acid, than I would be all for it because it makes more sense the joker doing it than Maroni. Please discuss...

 

[TheBat812]

Well, Goyer stated (after BB came out, so things may have changed) that the Joker would scar him towards the end of the movie leading to Harvey's downfall in the third. Sure, things could have changed, but why should they? It's perfect!

 

[L.A.]

Well, Goyer stated (after BB came out, so things may have changed) that the Joker would scar him towards the end of the movie leading to Harvey's downfall in the third. Sure, things could have changed, but why should they? It's perfect!

I love the idea of Joker doing harvey demise instead Maroni! I always thought what Maroni did was kind of lame. Loved the TAS version better.

 

[Wedge A.]

Maybe Maroni can't get his way out of this one, and he wants to "go out swinging."

 

[L.A.]

Maybe he can't get his way out of this one, and he wants to "go out swinging."

so you hire someone to throw acid at some dude Thats not Gangster!!!

 

[Two-Face]

Maroni hated Dent for getting in the way of mob boss so he thought he''ll teach Dent a lesson he'll never forget. Why kill Dent?? then there would be no Two Face.

 

[IamtheBatman]

But, didn' they say Joker would scar Dent in court.

 

[L.A.]

Maroni hated Dent for getting in the way of mob boss so he thought he''ll teach Dent a lesson he'll never forget. Why kill Dent?? then there would be no Two Face.

Maroni hated Dent because Dent was doing his job? What next Maroni throw acid at the mayor for doing his job as well? thats just part of game. Seems to me Maroni kind of Naive' when it comes to the other part of the business. And lastly Maroni didnt know that Harvey would become two-face because if he did, he wouldnt have thrown that silly acid at his face.

 

[The Joker]

Maroni hated Dent because Dent was doing his job?

That's right.

Harvey was out to take down the crime boss families, with Batman's help.

 

[L.A.]

That's right.

Harvey was out to take down the crime boss families, with Batman's help.

yea, all the more reason to kill him and not throw acid at the dude? Whats that going to say about your rep? Not man enough to kill?

 

[The Joker]

yea, all the more reason to kill him and not throw acid at the dude? Whats that going to say about your rep? Not man enough to kill?

Have you even read the story??

Maroni was in custody. He had no access to a gun or knife. You're searched before being brought into court. The acid was smuggled into the court in a bottle of antacid for stomach indigestion.

And, Maroni did intend to kill Dent with it. When it hit Dent's face, Maroni claimed he didn't have a chance, because that acid eats thru cement.

 

[L.A.]

Have you even read the story??

Maroni was in custody. He had no access to a gun or knife. You're searched before being brought into court. The acid was smuggled into the court in a bottle of antacid for stomach indigestion.

And, Maroni did intend to kill Dent with it. When it hit Dent's face, Maroni claimed he didn't have a chance, because that acid eats thru cement.

Maroni couldnt have any visitors? From there he could contracted a hit on Dent easily! Isnt the Gotham Justice system suppose to be corrupt. Wouldnt be much of a stetch to find out where Harvey's family lives. Seriously if the best you can do to guy is hire someone to throw acid with, thats just weak!

 

[Rynan]

I was going to respond, but I just realized why you keep asking questions when people are giving you the answers.

Your an idiot. My mistake.

 

[The Joker]

Maroni couldnt have any visitors? From there he could contracted a hit on Dent easily! Isnt the Gotham Justice system suppose to be corrupt. Wouldnt be much of a stetch to find out where Harvey's family lives. Seriously if the best you can do to guy is hire someone to throw acid with, thats just weak!

They already did try and kill Dent and his wife in their home. They failed, thanks to Batman's help.

Again, if you'd read the story, you'd know the Gotham Police department was no longer corrupt by this point. Loeb was ousted, and Gordon was the Commissoner.

 

[JStorm]

I don't want the Joker to scare Harvey.

If it happens, I live.

But Roberts being in the movie tells me otherwise.

 

[JStorm]

I was going to respond, but I just realized why you keep asking questions when people are giving you the answers.

Your're an idiot. My mistake.

I like L.A.

 

[L.A.]

They already did try and kill Dent and his wife in their home. They failed, thanks to Batman's help.

Again, if you'd read the story, you'd know the Gotham Police department was no longer corrupt by this point. Loeb was ousted, and Gordon was the Commissoner.

So Maroni felt trapped and realized he had no other options but to hire Harvey's asistant to throw acid at the dude? Great Writing there! No way the Nolans brothers can top that! Lets hope not!

 

[L.A.]

I like L.A.

 

[L.A.]

Your an idiot. My mistake.

 

[The Joker]

So Maroni felt trapped and realized he had no other options but to hire Harvey's asistant to throw acid at the dude? Great Writing there! No way the Nolans brothers can top that! Lets hope not!

Actually, Maroni was doing it at Carmine Falcone's request. Both families were feeling the heat from Dent, and Maroni was having some kind of romantic fling with Sophia Falcone, who had done prison time for him, and told him what to do when she went to visit him.

Harvey's assistant, Vernon, was in Falcone's pocket, and supplied Maroni with the acid in the antacid bottle before he went into court.

 

[JStorm]

I was defending the city. Who the heck are you?

 

[Riven]

Just read The Long Halloween, dude. It gives the clearest account of what happened and why.

Maroni knew it was all over for him and decided to personally kill Dent, who had brought him down (with help from Batman and Gordon). The acid is smuggled into court, which is the only way Maroni can get a lethal weapon up close to Dent. The acid was supposed to kill him, but Dent, probably turning away just in time only gets acid splattered across half of his face.

And anyway, THAT'S the character's history. In the origin story from the 1940'ies, Harvey (Kent, later changed to Dent) was scarred with acid by a gangster in a courtroom. Maybe this isn't the most plausible way to dispence with someone, no, but there were an awful lot of implausible things happening in comics back then, just as they are now. Sixty years later, a character's entire history has been built on that single event : courtroom + gangster + acid + Dent = Two-Face. You can't erase that. The comicbook industry has been retconned almost into total irrecognisability, let's just keep some elements intact, huh?

That said, I have no qualms with differing interpretations of the event. In TAS, the set-up was different with Harvey being caught in a chemical blast in a factory while persueing a mobster. In TDK, it might be the Joker doing the acid-hurling. But whatever spin is given to the story, the fact remains Harvey gets hit by acid. Without that, you have no character of Two-Face. We NEED the acid, so live with it.

 

[L.A.]

I was defending the city. Who the heck are you?

I am the city

 

[L.A.]

Just read The Long Halloween, dude. It gives the clearest account of what happened and why.

Maroni knew it was all over for him and decided to personally kill Dent, who had brought him down (with help from Batman and Gordon). The acid is smuggled into court, which is the only way Maroni can get a lethal weapon up close to Dent. The acid was supposed to kill him, but Dent, probably turning away just in time only gets acid splattered across half of his face.

And anyway, THAT'S the character's history. In the origin story from the 1940'ies, Harvey (Kent, later changed to Dent) was scarred with acid by a gangster in a courtroom. Maybe this isn't the most plausible way to dispence with someone, no, but there were an awful lot of implausible things happening in comics back then, just as they are now. Sixty years later, a character's entire history has been built on that single event : courtroom + gangster + acid + Dent = Two-Face. You can't erase that. The comicbook industry has been retconned almost into total irrecognisability, let's just keep some elements intact, huh?

That said, I have no qualms with differing interpretations of the event. In TAS, the set-up was different with Harvey being caught in a chemical blast in a factory while persueing a mobster. In TDK, it might be the Joker doing the acid-hurling. But whatever spin is given to the story, the fact remains Harvey gets hit by acid. Without that, you have no character of Two-Face. We NEED the acid, so live with it.

Good post Yea I havent read the Long Hallowen or any comics for that matter. I just know from what I read here in the hype and TAS. I have no problems with Harvey getting hit by Acid, just didnt like the idea of that happening in the courtroom. Honestly if Nolan continues to use "real world setting" no mob boss in here in the states would ever throw acid at a DA in front of the courtrooom, no matter how much you hate the guy. I just hope the Nolan bros. can write something alot better than the previous incarnations of Harvey/two face.

 

[The Guard]

Question:

If Maroni is not going to scar Dent in THE DARK KNIGHT, then why is his character even in the movie? Wouldn't they have utilized Oswald Cobblepot as the mob boss if that's all they needed, and not Maroni, who has a very specific reason for existing in the Batman mythos?