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Discussion in 'DC Comics' started by Ultimate_Superman, Mar 29, 2006.
Jim Lee is carrying All-Star Bats on his back.
yeah you are right.... no one is buying the book because they like it....
I think both titles suck a big hairy wet one.
I'm still tryin' to figger out where all th' ASS love is comin' from. Title's been nuttin' but weird since it started.
Thank you, now we must find others like us
Youve just summed up why I like it. In a time where it seems all the comics of today (since the 80's) are mostly dark and adult orientated affairs - it's nice to have an alternative that harks back to a time when comics were a little weird and off the wall......and a little more innocent.
Thats why I also like 'Iinvincible'.
It's all about a bit of fun - as opposed to some title which make you want to slit your wrists after reading they were so bleak.
That's sort of the point, the weirdness I mean. It's a throwback to the halcyon days of the Golden and Silver Ages, when Superman adventures involved much more fantastic elements than they do today.
I don't love it because it's weird. I love it because it's epic. We haven't really had this kind of huge, sprawling adventure with Superman in quite some time, so it's refreshing to see it again.
I love Invincible, and this book aint invincible
He's Goddammed frank Miller
I disagree with pretty much all of your points
I haven't gotten around to Sandman or Miracleman yet though so those could be better than Miller's stuff for all I know
still, DKR, Year One, Daredevil (original run, Born Again, Man Without Fear), Sin City, 300...that is an astounding body of work
DKR, Year One, Daredevil etc are all amazing reads but trust me, when you get to read Miracleman.................whoa.
Moore has the Watchmen, V For Vendetta, From Hell, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, The Killing Joke, For the Man who has Everything, Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?, Top Ten, Promethea, and Miracleman.
Frank Miller who?
Now, thats an impressive body of work!!!
im pretty sure we were just comparing Miller to Morrison
yeah, I already said Moore was part of the trinity. I do say however that I don't believe that Moore's works decimate Miller's in some sort of literary fisticuffs
You people realized DC retconned all th' Silver Age stuff fer a REASON, right? I love retro as much as th' next guy, but Silver Age Supes was ****, an' so is this series.
Mission accomplished, I guess.
that's speculation... I'm talking about facts
in my opinion, weird = good
You must read it. Now.
I read all of them Miracleman is better.
And Moore hasn't even come close to Miller's mediocrity lately. Comparing a guy who wrote Batman/Spawn and putting him at Moore's level is something I find vaguely insulting.
So no I don't believe Miller is in the trinity of greatest writers. He's more in the Claremont range as a once great writer.
Its reasonable deduction. The book is in the top 5 now, actually I think its in the top 3. Put the worlds hottest artist on it...its not unreasonable it wouldn't sell even better.
And I view Morrison as a superior writer to Miller. Morrison can be very weird and confusing. However, he has a very versatile style. He can go from writing Arkham Asylum to the JLA to Doom Patrol.
Morrison can also write good dialogue, Miller's dialogue is heavily influenced by Pulp Novels & Comics & it sounds cheesy in superhero comics.
Ironically, I think the best parts of All-Star Superman are the ones that are less fantastical and less charming... the concept of Superman being exposed to a radiation that can slowly kill him yet consistantly makes him more powerful is very interesting and scientifically more realistic than a Superman who is completely invincible except when there's Kryptonite in the room. However, when you pair that concept with a group of HUMANS attempting to LAND on the SUN, or a couple of mythological "heroes" who dupe a DINOSAUR who lives with a SECRET SOCIETY UNDER THE GROUND, it takes the story to a place where at least some readers don't want to see it go. It's kind of like the end of the film Vanilla Sky. If you haven't seen it, don't worry; I won't give away the ending... all I'm going to say is that it comes to a point where there are several directions the story could go, and they pick a route that is very unconventional (which I applaud them for), but is also a direction that feels so far out in left field that I personally wish they would have gone another way. But its all a matter of taste. Personally, I would like to see a gradually dying/strength increasing Superman during OYL, instead of a powerless Clark Kent running around and constantly needing someone to save his keister. If the canon Superman had something interesting like that going on, I probably wouldn't even bother with AS.S, because I'm not all that crazy about Silver Age elements in current comics. But that's just me.
Stuff like this. I love this panel.
So why are they reintroducing the Silver Age stuff such as a pre-crisis like Krypton in Birthright, the costume being made out of Kryptonian blankets and tapestries, Supergirl as Superman's cousin, Krypto the dog, Lex as an evil genius/mastermind/scientist?
you guys make me sick