Sequels Why there won't be an X4

[thev01]

I just saw this article from Rottentomatoes.com and 1 part of it really struck me. Check the full article here.
excerpts of Rottentomatoes article:
X-Men remains one of the top comic properties around and speculation that this will be the final installment will make fans not want to miss out. Between the escalating actor salaries and the heavy dependence on expensive special effects, Fox and Marvel Entertainment probably couldn't afford to bankroll an X-Men 4 even if they wanted to. With the Star Wars prequels having finished up and this franchise closing up shop soon, Fox is looking to squeeze every dime it can out of The Last Stand. Its next big super hero flick won't take off until June 15 of next year when Fantastic Four 2 hits screens a cool six weeks after Sony's Spider-Man 3. It's no surprise then why Fox is rolling out its tentpole pic in almost every major market around the world this weekend.

Do you think this is true?
Has it really become too expensive to make a big-budget Hollywood blockbuster this day?
Should FOX just stop being cheap bastards and give the X-men franchise a Spiderman or Superman size budget($200-$250 M)?
Should the next X-movies be less reliant on CGI to save money like Batman begins?

 

[Trooper]

you said ''Fox and Marvel Entertainment probably couldn't afford to bankroll an X-Men 4 even if they wanted to''

fox cant.. marvel will

 

[RickO'Connell]

I will make this as short & simple & sweet as possible. As long as these Movies make Money there WILL be Sequels. Either by FOX or Marvel no matter what there WILL be Sequels as long as these Movies make Money. We may have a few Actors saying they will not be back but you know what look at Halle Berry she has said that many times but in the end Money changed her mind. So if FOX or Marvel really wants someone to come back they will come back.

 

[insanesuperhero]

I definitely think there should be more sequels. Just think of all the mutants we've yet to see! The main one I'm waiting for the most is Gambit. Why is Hollywood so against putting him in these movies!?

 

[Sentry2k2]

They wont use the same cast, cause they're too expensive now, and I'm sure the actors want to move on. Go with a different one. Money problems solved.

 

[enigmabz]

Even if they do get the actors to return, there is the main plot hole in x3 to deal with for x4...(cykes and jean death) who are the xmen golden couple. so far, (prof x coming back was dealt with end credit), then so called cure being a temp thing is fine (covers magneto, raven and rogue). ok but how inthe hell can you bring cykes and jean. impossible ............

 

[Postman]

Like someone said if X3 makes money than there will be an X4. I do not think Halle will come back and that they will probably end up having to recast storm. They would most likely center around a new team: Beast and Storm as the leaders, Shadowcat, Iceman, Collosus, Angel possibly adding Gambit to the mix. Than they could either bring in Mister Sinister as the villain hopefully bringing back Juggernaught to be one of Sinister's henchmen. It could be done pretty easily.

 

[EmmaFrost]

As long as moives make money then there is a chance. However, as pointed out, salaries and manuvering actors time are a big sticking point.

Bascially, I think the X3 was set to write out just abut as many of the principles as possible so that if there is a push to do more they will have to use fresh people. A few small cameos if need be from some of the main principles is realtively easy to do.

If there is further in the X universe movies (beyound the prequel spin-offs) more then likely it will deal with events in the future. A more grown up Iceman, Kitty etc.

 

[cardslinger]

I wouldn't be that surprised if Halle came back for more sequals. She seems happy with X3 and she loves working with this group of actors. If she is wanted for X4, I think she will be there.

 

[thev01]

The big problem with Fox is that they just to cheap to make further X-men movies. Unlke Warner brother and Sony Pictures who are willing to spend $200-$250M to make Spider man and Superman sequels. I think Tom Rothman just isn't the type of guy willing to take that much risk. What a puusy!

 

[PunisherParker]

i had just recently read an article confirming fox doing more x-men films (1 confirmed at present) plus in interviews it was mentioned that actors had signed for more after x3. also lets take into account the ending and stuff we've all heard about and seen that sets it up for x4. not to mention that them billing this as a final chapter is set to make fox boatloads of cash almost guarunteeing them more than enough cash to greenlight and finance another film and the same goes for marvel.

star wars was finished in the 80's. ROTJ was billed as the final chapter but they came back to make more and lots of cash. no doubt in my mind that we will see x4 in the near future (film making time of course). my personal thoughts is that the wolverine movie will be made (very mixed feelings on that film they have to get that 1 right) followed by x4 soon after.

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

It's still to soon to expect an X-Men 4, why is everyone in such a rush?

 

[hypefan003]

I haven't seen X3 but based on all of the reviews I have read, there were too many mutants in the cast anyway. A good movie doesn't have to have a lot of mutants. If they made a movie with only a few main characters (like 8) they could make a fantastic movie for less than they made X3

 

[Mr. Socko]

The budget should not exceed $150, $200-$250 million is just crazy.

A great director can make an amazing movie with $150.

 

[Super Flight]

there wont be an x-4 becasue they totally ****ed up x3... and the reason they called it the last stand was becasue they KNEW for a fact that they ****ed up x3, so they used the last stand name to cover up their messes

 

[Goofball]

How much do you guys think FOX will have to make in order for THEM to merit an X4 movie?

 

[Goofball]

How much do you guys think FOX will have to make in order for THEM to merit an X4 movie?

 

[RangerKing]

I'm sure that if the Harry Potter films can use the same big names repeatably for seven films, X-Men can do the same for four to six films.

 

[The Hurricane]

I just saw this article from Rottentomatoes.com and 1 part of it really struck me. Check the full article here.
excerpts of Rottentomatoes article:
X-Men remains one of the top comic properties around and speculation that this will be the final installment will make fans not want to miss out. Between the escalating actor salaries and the heavy dependence on expensive special effects, Fox and Marvel Entertainment probably couldn't afford to bankroll an X-Men 4 even if they wanted to. With the Star Wars prequels having finished up and this franchise closing up shop soon, Fox is looking to squeeze every dime it can out of The Last Stand. Its next big super hero flick won't take off until June 15 of next year when Fantastic Four 2 hits screens a cool six weeks after Sony's Spider-Man 3. It's no surprise then why Fox is rolling out its tentpole pic in almost every major market around the world this weekend.

Do you think this is true?
Has it really become too expensive to make a big-budget Hollywood blockbuster this day?
Should FOX just stop being cheap bastards and give the X-men franchise a Spiderman or Superman size budget($200-$250 M)?
Should the next X-movies be less reliant on CGI to save money like Batman begins?

I see your point but I think what it means is that there wont be another x-men film for a long time

 

[Sagitarrius]

Even if they do get the actors to return, there is the main plot hole in x3 to deal with for x4...(cykes and jean death) who are the xmen golden couple. so far, (prof x coming back was dealt with end credit), then so called cure being a temp thing is fine (covers magneto, raven and rogue). ok but how inthe hell can you bring cykes and jean. impossible ............

i would have to see exactly how Cyke & jean meet their end in X-4.

But it is not impossible - for example, what if the "Cyclops" that
died was actually a mutant meta-morph ??

......a shapeshifter ?

 

[Sagitarrius]

I'm sure that if the Harry Potter films can use the same big names repeatably for seven films, X-Men can do the same for four to six films.

Exactly !

if the Harry Potters can remain hot ticket , heavy in demand in it's
multiple series , then can't the same be said for XMEN films ??

Xmen just has a tremendous wide range of characters, super villains,
storyline scenarios
( Apocalyse, Selene, Nimrod, Onslaught, Mr. Sinister, etc. )
to just halt the huge demand for it.

 

[RangerKing]

Tom Rothman said that there would be a four X-Men flick. If the franchise was so expensive to make, then the films wouldn't be made. The whole point of making a film is to gain back the money you spent plus some. The only way they would know if a sequel is in the market is by audience turnout. If the turnout isn't good, then they would know that they wouldn't make a profit. It's not a question of if its too expensive to make, but its a question will they be able to make an actual profit.

 

[Sagitarrius]

How much do you guys think FOX will have to make in order for THEM to merit an X4 movie?

1) opening day - $30 -to- 40 million

2) opening 4-day weekend - $110 million

3) break the all-time memorial day weekend record - ( formerly $90,161,880 by Jurassic Park: Lost World )

4) domestic: $226,164,286 -to- $300,500,000

 

[Sagitarrius]

It's still to soon to expect an X-Men 4, why is everyone in such a rush?

you have a point .

.... but that's just the incredible heavy demand , expectation level and entertainment value that the Xmen films tend to generate .

People simply cannot get enough .....

 

[Sagitarrius]

re: " ........They wont use the same cast, cause they're too expensive now, and I'm sure the actors want to move on. Go with a different one. Money problems solved......"

the main two headliners in terms of expense is Hugh Jackman and Halle Berry - Berry could probably be even harder to re-sign again than ever and a tough decision will have to be made for a " big name" replacement
if an agreement cannot be reached.

however since Halle's recent box office have been absolute busts , i think she would possibly return since 1) she apparently enjoys the role of Storm...... 2) she gets to resume the big role she coveted

i think Jackman could be convinced to return - he is by far the most
important actor to resume the role of Wolverine.
But i think it would be very much after his forth-coming " WOLVERINE " spin-off...............




re: .......... "I definitely think there should be more sequels. Just think of all the mutants we've yet to see! The main one I'm waiting for the most is Gambit. Why is Hollywood so against putting him in these movies!? " ........


Because of Halle Berry's " forced " increased role - there wasn't enough
screen time to incorporate GAMBIT into this film.

Singer mentioned that he had plans to add both BEAST and Gambit in his previous film but again screen time became a problem. ...

But it's my guess that the producers and director would be determined to
add Gambit into the next Xmen film because of the public demand -
- even if that means they have to hold back on any other character or limit some storylines ....