Why this movie failed...I felt nothing.

[Sardaukar]

First of all, I'm not even commenting on the lack of respect this movie showed the book. I'm criticizing this film as a film...not as an adaptation.


Spoilers...for the two people in this forum who haven't seen it yet.












When Cyclops died, I felt nothing because for the 5 minutes he was on-screen he acted like a whiny *****.

When Xavier "died", I felt nothing because he acted like a morally questionable, know-it-all *******.

When Angel saved his father, I felt nothing because the actor's main purpose was to provide eye candy for the ladies (it sure wasn't to provide character development) and, for all we know, his father was an unrepentent bigot to the end.

When Magneto was defeated by the cure, I felt nothing because the X-Men acted like hypocrites in defeating him that way.

When Jean died, I felt nothing because she just stood around the whole time.

When Rogue and Bobby got back together, I felt nothing because he was an insensitive pig and she sold-out her mutant heritage for an insensitive pig.

When Hank McCoy became Ambassador to the UN, I felt nothing because I was asking myself WTF just happened.

Comments?

Questions?

Concerns?

 

[Psionic Force]

another whiner.... how surprising... oh and look... yet ANOTHER thread opened to do it

 

[putoxic]

felt nothing...felt nothing....felt nothing.....r u even human?! hahahaha

 

[MoviesKickAss]

 

[Mike059jig]

You are official the stoic leader of the X-men....Cyclops....

 

[PhoenixRisen]

Now there is an EMO whining thread started by someone who "felt nothing"? LOL!! I suggest you write your lack of feelings in your journal and maybe you will answer your own soul-searching, angst-ridden questions...but please don't start cutting yourself so you know you are alive!

What's next? A thread for metrosexuals who loathed Wolverine's hair?

 

[Mentok]

First of all, I'm not even commenting on the lack of respect this movie showed the book. I'm criticizing this film as a film...not as an adaptation.


Spoilers...for the two people in this forum who haven't seen it yet.












When Cyclops died, I felt nothing because for the 5 minutes he was on-screen he acted like a whiny *****.

When Xavier "died", I felt nothing because he acted like a morally questionable, know-it-all *******.

When Angel saved his father, I felt nothing because the actor's main purpose was to provide eye candy for the ladies (because it sure wasn't to provide character development) and, for all we know, his father was an unrepentent bigot to the end.

When Magneto was defeated by the cure, I felt nothing because the X-Men acted like hypocrites in defeating him that way.

When Jean died, I felt nothing because she just stood around the whole time.

When Rogue and Bobby got back together, I felt nothing because he was an insensitive pig and she sold-out her mutant heritage for an insensitive pig.

When Hank McCoy became Ambassador to the UN, I felt nothing because I was asking myself WTF just happened.

Comments?

Questions?

Concerns?

I agree with most of what you said. I will say that the things I didnt like about the film really come down to to main points.

The Direction was Sloppy and the Script was poor.

The film would have been much better had both of these things recieved more attention.

X3 was a bit better on second viewing though. The bad things outweigh the good things still.

 

[WorthyStevens]

When Cyclops died, I felt nothing because for the 5 minutes he was on-screen he acted like a whiny *****.

He was still grieving over the death of Jean. His true love.

When Xavier "died", I felt nothing because he acted like a morally questionable, know-it-all *******.

Xavier had to do what he did. It was Logan who kept on badgering and provoking Xavier.

When Angel saved his father, I felt nothing because the actor's main purpose was to provide eye candy for the ladies (because it sure wasn't to provide character development) and, for all we know, his father was an unrepentent bigot to the end.

Uh.. no. His main purpose(s) included being the reason for the cure (as shown in the early flashback), the reason the mansion stays open, and demonstrated as a symbol for liberty at the end scene in the park.

When Magneto was defeated by the cure, I felt nothing because the X-Men acted like hypocrites in defeating him that way.

What else were they supposed to do? Magneto was going crazy. The only other way he had to be stopped was for him to die, and that would be morally worse than curing him.

When Jean died, I felt nothing because she just stood around the whole time.

Not the whole time. Did you miss her scene with Scott and her scenes at the mansion?

When Rogue and Bobby got back together, I felt nothing because he was an insensitive pig and she sold-out her mutant heritage for an insensitive pig.

An insensitive pig who clearly showed his affection for her. Hence the reason he goes to the cure station. To find Rogue. And Rogue didn't "sell out". To her, she was at a disadvantage, because she could never touch anybody without hurting, or killing them.

When Hank McCoy became Ambassador to the UN, I felt nothing because I was asking myself WTF just happened.

He was promoted because of his heroics at Alcatraz Island.

 

[TNC9852002]

another whiner.... how surprising... oh and look... yet ANOTHER thread opened to do it

lol!

-TNC

 

[borinquenknight]

He was still grieving over the death of Jean. His true love.



Xavier had to do what he did. It was Logan who kept on badgering and provoking Xavier.



Uh.. no. His main purpose(s) included being the reason for the cure (as shown in the early flashback), the reason the mansion stays open, and demonstrated as a symbol for liberty at the end scene in the park.



What else were they supposed to do? Magneto was going crazy. The only other way he had to be stopped was for him to die, and that would be morally worse than curing him.



Not the whole time. Did you miss her scene with Scott and her scenes at the mansion?



An insensitive pig who clearly showed his affection for her. Hence the reason he goes to the cure station. To find Rogue. And Rogue didn't "sell out". To her, she was at a disadvantage, because she could never touch anybody without hurting, or killing them.



He was promoted because of his heroics at Alcatraz Island.

Worthy,
I got every last one of Sard's points and agree with them. Your having to explain it all only solidifies his claim. This film was indeed sloppy.

 

[borinquenknight]

LOL! Freakin' sweet! Can I get the extended 3 disc edition?

 

[WorthyStevens]

Worthy,
I got every last one of Sard's points and agree with them. Your having to explain it all only solidifies his claim. This film was indeed sloppy.

I was only giving my viewpoint on his claims.

I don't think it was necessarily sloppy, but it was short of a few things. That's just my opinion.


Sidenote, you have an awesome avy.

 

[MoviesKickAss]

another whiner.... how surprising... oh and look... yet ANOTHER thread opened to do it

another whiner whining that someone else is whining.... how surprising

 

[tkenji69]

another whiner whining that someone else is whining.... how surprising

Kids... Kids... Kids... dont make me turn this thread around... did you see the villain in spidermans eye?

 

[cardslinger]

He was still grieving over the death of Jean. His true love.



Xavier had to do what he did. It was Logan who kept on badgering and provoking Xavier.



Uh.. no. His main purpose(s) included being the reason for the cure (as shown in the early flashback), the reason the mansion stays open, and demonstrated as a symbol for liberty at the end scene in the park.



What else were they supposed to do? Magneto was going crazy. The only other way he had to be stopped was for him to die, and that would be morally worse than curing him.



Not the whole time. Did you miss her scene with Scott and her scenes at the mansion?



An insensitive pig who clearly showed his affection for her. Hence the reason he goes to the cure station. To find Rogue. And Rogue didn't "sell out". To her, she was at a disadvantage, because she could never touch anybody without hurting, or killing them.



He was promoted because of his heroics at Alcatraz Island.

I agree with you. This is how I saw the movie.

 

[Farren]

I agree with every one of Sardaukar's points...

I remember tearing up watching the 'Where's Scott' scene on the computer...when in the context of the film at the theater, I felt nothing. Same for all the other scenes.

 

[Gilpesh]

I think felt nothing is just the effect of not giving character development the time to work with the characters. It was just "LET'S GO HERE AND FIGHT THEM AND THEN HERE AND ATTACK THOSE GUYS, CUT HERE TO THIS AND FIGHT THIS!!!"

 

[cardslinger]

I agree with every one of Sardaukar's points...

I remember tearing up watching the 'Where's Scott' scene on the computer...when in the context of the film at the theater, I felt nothing. Same for all the other scenes.

It's hard to get too emotional when you know what is going to happen. Part of the emotion is saposed to come from the suprise/shock. I know I would have been a lot more emotional if I hadn't seen half the scenes in the movie beforehand. I still teared up in parts though.

 

[Sardaukar]

But there's also another reason why I was asking myself "who gives a damn" when Mags was defeated. Magneto is too sympathetic to remain a decent villain by the time of this movie. When they get Magneto, it's like "ho hum, we've been here before, whatever".

Maybe for that reason Phoenix was meant to be the "ultimate villain" like Stryker was for the second one. But Phoenix didn't fit the bill as someone who you hated, therefore she wasn't a suitable villain-it was more like someone you felt sorry for (theoretically, at least-I didn't actually care about her).

In contrast, it was easy to hate Stryker. Gods, I hated that guy and when Mags kicked his ass, by gum I actually felt something-satisfaction that he'd received his comeuppance. What an ******* he was.

Anyway, thanks for the responses.

 

[cardslinger]

I guess there wasn't really a hardened "I hope this guy dies" kind of villain in X3. Magneto is too cool to hope he dies, plus you know why he does the things he does and can actually feel for him. As evil as Dark Phoenix is, you can't really hope she dies, since she is also Jean Grey. That is one thing this movie was lacking, however, you can have a good movie without the hate facter.

I hope this makes sence. It is 2:30 in the morning here.

 

[Farren]

It's hard to get too emotional when you know what is going to happen. Part of the emotion is saposed to come from the suprise/shock. I know I would have been a lot more emotional if I hadn't seen half the scenes in the movie beforehand. I still teared up in parts though.

That's a good point - seeing so much in advance sapped a lot of the final emotions.

Still, I knew Cyke was toast when I first saw the clip. There was something in the pacing and the way the movie failed to draw me in that really hurt my theater experience.

 

[Sardaukar]

I guess there wasn't really a hardened "I hope this guy dies" kind of villain in X3. Magneto is too cool to hope he dies, plus you know why he does the things he does and can actually feel for him. As evil as Dark Phoenix is, you can't really hope she dies, since she is also Jean Grey. That is one thing this movie was lacking, however, you can have a good movie without the hate facter.

I hope this makes sence. It is 2:30 in the morning here.

Good response...you can have a good movie without the hate factor. But also, and forgive the cliche...heroes are only as good as their villains.

The "street gang" mutants are pretty pathetic-like they were trying to act all tough because they were dressed in leather and wore tattoos. Wow. And Juggernaut was beat by Kitty Pryde in not really a bad scene, but more comedic than "edge of your seat" kinda stuff.

These aren't villains...more like clowns.

 

[pyro9vivacita]

Im a fan and I wasnt dissapointed...people just need to realize that the x-men are people too meaning that they can die...it would be soo unreal if they didnt die......That's what one of my friends said before he saw X3 "can they die"-I said yes.... and he was happy because it makes it soo much more real..
Im not crying because I dont know if Pyro is alive or not... and he is my fav. character!!! the movies have never followed the comics from X-men 1 and X3 followed thecomics more than X1 and X2..there was, Storm flying, The Bridge scene, the Danger Room, Fastball Special, the cure, ..I mean come on at least it focused on the cure!! Urgggg some people(fans) make me soo upset when they complain and complain about this movie........... Does jean everdo anything but stand around...what do you expect her to do, first of all she was not herself and her "standing around" showed that!! 2nd....I hope you didnt expect Jean jump up and start hand fighting!!! Angels main purpose wa snot just too provide eye candy to the ladies....He was there to set up the development and emotions of the cure!!! You seemed to have missed the scene of young Angel..Excellent scene. Gahhhh!!! I have really tried to hold back since X3 came out but I couldnt...

 

[bexta89]

I am one of the "two people who haven't seen it yet", and reading posts like this makes me dread seeing it sometimes. But I guess I'll have my own opinion once I've viewed the movie too...

 

[Nemelectro]

When Cyclops died, I felt nothing because for the 5 minutes he was on-screen he acted like a whiny *****.

you felt nothing,but i felt too many strange things.First of all i didn't want to watch when cyclops died.I understod the film wasn't good enough in firt 6 minutes... Cylops died...If i didn't watch after cyclops died,i wouldn't miss anything.When he died after that scene nothing was important for me.I thought leave the cinema.But i waited maybe cyclops would appear at the end.....
But i saw nothing... that time I FELT NOTHING......