The Dark Knight Rises Why Would Nolan Make A Batman That Is Outta the Rest of the Superheroverse

[I Am The Knight]

I find it funny that in that interview Favreau says he's content with being the Pepsi to Nolan's Coke (That's Coca-Cola).

 

[jmc]

My question to him would then be "Wouldn't you prefer to be a completely different product?"

 

[dontplaydead27]

I don't know if any of you said this already, but from Nolan himself, it would take away from Bruce's choice.

Bruce's motivation for being Batman would be radically different if superheros already existed in his world. This makes sense for Nolan to take this approach in the movie. That's part of why you don't think this Batman is campy, because in Nolan's world he's just "some ******* in a costume". He's not being thought of as a "superhero" in the series. Nolan gave us the reasons he dresses up to fight crime, and with other heros dressed up in his world, it would make no sense with what Nolan has already done.

 

[The Guard]

I don't know if any of you said this already, but from Nolan himself, it would take away from Bruce's choice. Bruce's motivation for being Batman would be radically different if superheros already existed in his world.

I guess that would depend on whether Batman's motivation is to be the first person to be a superhero, or something about twelve times more important.

I could have sworn his motivation was to fight crime through fear and intimidation.

This makes sense for Nolan to take this approach in the movie. That's part of why you don't think this Batman is campy, because in Nolan's world he's just "some ******* in a costume". He's not being thought of as a "superhero" in the series. Nolan gave us the reasons he dresses up to fight crime, and with other heros dressed up in his world, it would make no sense with what Nolan has already done.

Gosh, I'd love to pretend that Nolan came up with why Batman dresses up to fight crime...but the comics did. Not Nolan.

 

[BlueLightning]

He didn´t. But this was his representation of the character, and he give him a VERY GOOD REASON (yeah, with capitals) to be Batman. And it worked.

 

[dontplaydead27]

"I guess that would depend on whether Batman's motivation is to be the first person to be a superhero, or something about twelve times more important.

I could have sworn his motivation was to fight crime through fear and intimidation.



Gosh, I'd love to pretend that Nolan came up with why Batman dresses up to fight crime...but the comics did. Not Nolan."

Jesus man calm down. I'm just saying, in Nolan's world, his interpretation of Batman wouldn't work with other superheros like it does in the comics BECAUSE of how Nolan set it up. He obviously did it on purpose and explained it.

And in BB, Nolan's reasons for Batman dressing up were "Theatricality is a powerful agent" and you "need an extreme example to shake people out of apathy" which i'm sure is quite different from what the comics stated. Needless to say, this is Nolan's interpretation of Batman, Not Bob Kane's or Bill Fingers, or yours or mine.

 

[BlueLightning]

Exactly.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Iron Man 2 is going to suck probably. They're going to try to do everything they did with IM1 and go bigger, which will probably result in a very shallow action flick.

 

[scatterax]

ya know, I never felt like batman really fit in w/ dc. I wonder which universe he belongs in? maybe watchmen? no. I guess he's a loner.... w/ side-kicks...

 

[BlueLightning]

In the beggining, there was only Batman... then he became popular and got his sidekicks and crossovers. Seriously, Nolan has simply gone to the roots of Batman, gathering the most important aspects of his representations and giving him a reallity sense to him.

He works better that way. In cinema at least.

 

[jmc]

Forgive me if I'm wrong but wasn't there technically no official DC universe until the 50's or there abouts?

 

[BlueLightning]

Well I was being kinda vague about that, but yeah, that was the thing I was referring when talking about crossovers.

 

[thedanmachine]

This biggest problem, IMO with teaming up Batman with other superheroes is that you have to find out who the lead superhero is. If Batman and Superman were put into a movie together, it would be very hard to split up the movie well enough so that both heroes get adequate screen time and both heroes seem equally important.

 

[Octoberist]

the team ups work in the comics very well because in terms of continuity, it's not that important.

Wolverine is in almost all of the 20 X-Men comics out there; how is that possible? Does it really matter? no.

There's comic book logic that works in comic books. Movie-wise, it could work, then you have to put some logic into it.

 

[protoctista]

All the best Batman novels deal primarily with Batman as a lone operative. Batman Year One, Killing Joke and to a majority extent The Dark Knight Returns, as well as Batman: The Long Halloween. Name a good cross over graphic novel.


Not that it matters anyway because the comic books and films are totally different. They have different purposes and different audiences.

 

[I Am The Knight]

All the best Batman novels deal primarily with Batman as a lone operative. Batman Year One, Killing Joke and to a majority extent The Dark Knight Returns, as well as Batman: The Long Halloween. Name a good cross over graphic novel.

I'm pretty sure there's plenty...New Frontier off the top of my head. Of course Batman is not the main character at all, but oh well.

But, the way to do it is to just not deal with it. Batman has his movies, Superman has his movies, Hal has his movies. Let them deal with their own problems. Bring them together only for a JLA movie. I don't think people will start asking why Superman is not showing up in Gotham to help stop The Riddler, you know? These should be separate entities, in a way.

Now, if you want to have GL in Superman, that flows much better.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Its funny because we all know Singer added in that newscast about Gotham in his Superman film.

 

[I Am The Knight]

And Schumacher had Bruce mention Metropolis in Forever

And then that awful Superman line in B&R....Ugh.

 

[Anubis]

Yes, because that lead to those two movies being s**ty.

 

[Cancer4TheCure]

and schumacher had bruce mention metropolis in forever

And then that awful superman line in b&r....ugh.

do not speak of those!

 

[Ronny Shade]

Yes, because that lead to those two movies being s**ty.

lol

 

[I Am The Knight]

Yes, because that lead to those two movies being s**ty.

Um, who said that

 

[Anubis]

Nobody did. They typed it.

 

[Boom]

Why Would Nolan Make A Batman That Is Outta the Rest of the Superheroverse

Simple: Because he wanted to.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Nobody did. They typed it.

Cute.