Will People go to see Thor and Captain America?

[DieSmiling]

I was hanging out with a group of friends after seeing TDK, and we were talking about how all of the superhero movies this summer were awesome -- everyone present (about six guys) really liked Iron Man, liked The Incredible Hulk, and loved The Dark Knight.

One of my friends asked about what the deal is with the Avengers (I'm the resident comic book movie geek) and I explained Marvel's plan -- Iron Man 2 and Thor in 2010 and Captain America and the Avengers in 2011.

All of them were interested in IM2 and the Avengers, but were laughing at the idea of a Thor or Captain America movie, calling them stupid and cheesy sounding. I defended the idea, saying that they could be very well done, but they weren't hearing it.

Do you guys think that people will see a Thor movie and a Captain America movie? Is Thor too unknown/unimportant, and is Captain America too cheesy? What do you guys think? Has anyone heard anything similar from any of their friends?

 

[KangConquers]

I was hanging out with a group of friends after seeing TDK, and we were talking about how all of the superhero movies this summer were awesome -- everyone present (about six guys) really liked Iron Man, liked The Incredible Hulk, and loved The Dark Knight.

One of my friends asked about what the deal is with the Avengers (I'm the resident comic book movie geek) and I explained Marvel's plan -- Iron Man 2 and Thor in 2010 and Captain America and the Avengers in 2011.

All of them were interested in IM2 and the Avengers, but were laughing at the idea of a Thor or Captain America movie, calling them stupid and cheesy sounding. I defended the idea, saying that they could be very well done, but they weren't hearing it.

Do you guys think that people will see a Thor movie and a Captain America movie? Is Thor too unknown/unimportant, and is Captain America too cheesy? What do you guys think? Has anyone heard anything similar from any of their friends?

I think once your friends see the trailers, they'll change their minds.

I'm slightly worried about Thor, but Cap I'm sure will be big; it's going to be the first movie out in the summer of 2011. First week of May movies are ALWAYS huge, and I expect Cap will be no different.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

Alot of People outside of comics didn't know who Iron Man( hell i had friends who were shocked that it was a comic), but you saw how that turned out. If you build it good enough they will come.

 

[KangConquers]

Alot of People outside of comics didn't know who Iron Man( hell i had friends who were shocked that it was a comic), but you saw how that turned out. If you build it good enough they will come.

Yes.

 

[Raiden]

I think Thor will be tricky to pull off, and it could easily bomb if not done correctly. Marvel will have to make sure the right people are handling it, and not just try to rush it to meet the deadline. I'm more optimistic with Captain America, and I think it will be a hit, provided that they are serious toward this project like Nolan did with TDK, and makes it like Saving Private Ryan. I'm hopeful that Marvel will learn from the lessons of IM and TIH, and apply them to these upcoming movies.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I think if they treat Thor and Cap as quality film ideas then yes people will see Thor and Cap.

Personally, i think for this to happen the best idea is to do:

Captain America (no First Avenger crap) in WWII only having him freeze at the end but start a superhero trend that would work in this shared universe Marvel is attempting. People in Iron Man and Hulk didnt seem very surprised that such fantastical things were happening, only shocked at the sight of them as someone might be at a bank robbery or celebrity sighting. End Cap with a British soldier that was a supporting character in the movie but on a suit and become Union Jack (if I could remember his real name Id use it)

Thor would take place in the LOTR reality of Asgard (or however you picture it) and have him preparing for and trying to stop Ragnarok (sp?). At the end of the movie, Thor finds himself on Earth and eventually trying to restart Asgard over Kansas or whereever it is like recently in the comic

This sets up Avengers. Cap gets unfrozen. Thor is trying to do good in this modern world. Both are apprehended (loss of a better word) and partnered with iron man and whoever else to find the Hulk (or whoever, I personally think it should be Ultron).

Whatever the case may be, either movie will probably have a similar tone and care that Iron man and TIH had if Marvel plans on grouping them together in a crossover sequel.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Thor's June release date makes it more in danger than Cap. But, I think trailers and casting will bring many people on board.

 

[ironman29758]

I think if they treat Thor and Cap as quality film ideas then yes people will see Thor and Cap.

Personally, i think for this to happen the best idea is to do:

Captain America (no First Avenger crap) in WWII only having him freeze at the end but start a superhero trend that would work in this shared universe Marvel is attempting. People in Iron Man and Hulk didnt seem very surprised that such fantastical things were happening, only shocked at the sight of them as someone might be at a bank robbery or celebrity sighting. End Cap with a British soldier that was a supporting character in the movie but on a suit and become Union Jack (if I could remember his real name Id use it)

Thor would take place in the LOTR reality of Asgard (or however you picture it) and have him preparing for and trying to stop Ragnarok (sp?). At the end of the movie, Thor finds himself on Earth and eventually trying to restart Asgard over Kansas or whereever it is like recently in the comic

This sets up Avengers. Cap gets unfrozen. Thor is trying to do good in this modern world. Both are apprehended (loss of a better word) and partnered with iron man and whoever else to find the Hulk (or whoever, I personally think it should be Ultron).

Whatever the case may be, either movie will probably have a similar tone and care that Iron man and TIH had if Marvel plans on grouping them together in a crossover sequel.

Cap I would see a soilder(Ultimate Cap) learning how to be a superhero and an american symbol in a modern day and age with the war on iraq(616 cap mix with movie iron and ult cap). read mythos cap to see what I'm talking about

I like the Thor and Avengers idea. He is now in oklahoma. I think the movie should be a mixture of the Ultimates volume 1 and issues 1-4 of the original Stan Lee stories

 

[thejon93]

Well, I was never really a fan of Thor from the comics but I enjoyed the character in a TV movie from the '80s called 'The Incredible Hulk Returns', and I enjoyed it. If they went in that sorta direction with the character, I guess I'd see it, but other than that, I'm not really a fan of the Viking warrior.

As for Captain America, hell yeah. I went to see 'The Incredible Hulk' just to see if the rumor of Captain America appearing in 'The Incredible Hulk' was true, afterall, Nick Fury appeared at the end of 'Iron Man' so it was expected; considering it was obvious they were forming an 'Avengers' movie from that point on. But I was disappointed to find NO Captain America, wasn't a real big fan of the movie also so my hopes were shot down. Anyhow, I'm hoping that they can release a Captain America film real soon, like I'm hoping for around the time of 'Iron Man 2's release soon, but, I can only hope.

 

[FaT_tONle]

As long as they make a good film Cap will be huge... the thing with Thor.... they need to separate it from other movies like LOTR. It shouldn't be done like that because there is no way you can top a film like that. I really don't know what the formula should be with Thor. It can't be done in a Pirates of the Carribean style. That just doesn't seem to fit the bill. And it can't come off as a more modern take of some of those cheezy (but effective at the time) 80's fantasy films back in the day. I think we need a little bit of all three. I think the film unfortunately will not find that balance and will suffer because of it. Of course it's way too soon but I don't see how Marvel is going to make it a success. We just have to wait and see but I can see why EVERYONE is writing Thor off as a cheese fest now itself... almost as much as people laughing at the idea of an Ant-Man film.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I dont think LOTR and POTC having extremely different styles

 

[FaT_tONle]

My point is... we are dealing with Gods with Thor... its different from even Hobbits and Dwarfs and what not. People can relate more so to those types of fantasy characters than they can with immortals essentially. Just imagine a LOTR movie just about Elves or Wizards... wouldn't work... and POTC is all human characters or some variation of a human at least so audiences can relate to that. Now I don't know how expansive the Thor universe is but even if it is teeming with different mythical creatures it can't outdo a film like LOTR. It shouldn't try to duplicate a movie like that. That's all I am saying. Besides Marvel isn't making a three hour film anyhow and people really don't respect comic Thor as they do with Tolkien's masterpiece. I don't know what the formula is. I don't know that much about the character. At the same time you can't make a swashbuckling adventure movie like POTC because frankly... I think it's going to be hard for audiences to care for a character like Thor as much as they would for a WIll Turner or Jack Sparrow with him being a God and all. You can't relate to that as easily.

 

[YoungE808]

Keep in mind that alot of war veterans, which do have their high numbers, will be seeing Captain America. I am worried about Thor though because the budget is so grandiose.

With Captain America, if they can truly show his leadership abilities is a new way then it'll be solid.

 

[marcvader]

I think people will go see these movies as long as they're quality and have great trailers and hype. There are also a lot more fans of these characters than you might think.

 

[CWP]

Captain America is promising, I think it could be done wonderfully. Maybe. Thor, eh, it depends. Marvel has gotten some of the coolest of their superheroes on the screen already, so it's only fair to wonder how boring it's going to get from here on out.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Hell yeah to both.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Depends on marketing. Iron Man is a success because of marketing. TI Hulk looks to be a failure because of (mis)marketing.

 

[WarBlade]

Do you guys think that people will see a Thor movie and a Captain America movie? Is Thor too unknown/unimportant, and is Captain America too cheesy? What do you guys think? Has anyone heard anything similar from any of their friends?

Thor

Unknown/unimportant? I think there are so many ways a Thor movie could go that it will defy prediction until some actual news comes out instead of preproduction murmurings and a projected release date. One potential issue is how Marvel took relatively well known mythological character and stuffed a superhero angle into it and I can see people being puzzled by the result.

Captain America

Probably cheesy, possibly offensive in concept. I can see people staying well away from it and some chaos developing in forums. This is pretty much a "nobody's ever heard of this guy" kind of character and will have to stand on his own two legs as a good movie to get anywhere.

 

[marcvader]

Disagree with the Captain America is a "nobody's ever heard of this guy" kind of character. They carried the news of his death in Civil War on the news channel s like CNN and Foxnews here in the states and he's been in countless cartoons too.

 

[chamber-music]

Disagree with the Captain America is a "nobody's ever heard of this guy" kind of character. They carried the news of his death in Civil War on the news channel s like CNN and Foxnews here in the states and he's been in countless cartoons too.

Not just in the States it was in The Metro which is a well circulated newspaper in the UK too and I'm sure it was in other news media around the world.

I think Captain America is all to do with what type of film is made and how Caps presented marketed. It could be unpopular like Superman Returns if they over do or miss represent the symbolism and patriotic stuff.

 

[KangConquers]

Captain America is promising, I think it could be done wonderfully. Maybe. Thor, eh, it depends. Marvel has gotten some of the coolest of their superheroes on the screen already, so it's only fair to wonder how boring it's going to get from here on out.

Their coolest? Marvel hasn't even started to get their best superheroes on film. Spider-Man and X-Men is pretty much all I'd count in the "Coolest" list that got made prior to 2008.

 

[KangConquers]

Thor

Unknown/unimportant? I think there are so many ways a Thor movie could go that it will defy prediction until some actual news comes out instead of preproduction murmurings and a projected release date. One potential issue is how Marvel took relatively well known mythological character and stuffed a superhero angle into it and I can see people being puzzled by the result.

Captain America

Probably cheesy, possibly offensive in concept. I can see people staying well away from it and some chaos developing in forums. This is pretty much a "nobody's ever heard of this guy" kind of character and will have to stand on his own two legs as a good movie to get anywhere.

Nobody's ever heard of Captain America?

His death was picked up by every major news outlet in the U.S. and many overseas. He's probably a top 5 name in comics; he's far from "Unknown."

 

[weezerspider]

Cap- if done right, yes. This could be Marvel's TDK
Thor- This is going to be tricky, but again, if done right, it can be successful.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Captain America

Probably cheesy, possibly offensive in concept. I can see people staying well away from it and some chaos developing in forums. This is pretty much a "nobody's ever heard of this guy" kind of character and will have to stand on his own two legs as a good movie to get anywhere.

Your joking right??? Seriously... think of the character as you will... but you are WAY OFF the mark. Frankly... I could care less how the movie does internationally. I don't think it won't be a success if it underperforms abroad either. If they get it right... people in the U.S will FLOCK to see this film no doubt in my mind. I could care less what foreigners think of the concept or the character. I think Marvel will be just fine without huge business overseas.

 

[KangConquers]

Your joking right??? Seriously... think of the character as you will... but you are WAY OFF the mark. Frankly... I could care less how the movie does internationally. I don't think it won't be a success if it underperforms abroad either. If they get it right... people in the U.S will FLOCK to see this film no doubt in my mind. I could care less what foreigners think of the concept or the character. I think Marvel will be just fine without huge business overseas.

Not like Cap isn't successful overseas; it's been a hit comic in over 70 countres. He's not just a hero for the Nation.

Maybe this is me, but I think people who dislike america hate us because we're hypocrites, not because they "Hate freedom", as our president would have you believe. Cap represents all of the good in america without all of the bad.