The Amazing Spider-Man 2 will the amazing spiderman 3 fail?

[Spider-knight]

the premise for webb's third installment will be about peter's road to recovery which just contradicts the last movie because in the end peter recovers pretty quickly. since sony is known for making the latest series into a cash grab do you believe it'll fail because i really hope they change the premise. marc webb and crew had 2 below average films and if one more will prove poorly box office and critical wise then marc webb's entire reputation is ruined as is spidey's. i just hope the road to recovery thing is related to the director's cut version.

 

[Donut]

There is a 9 month gap after Gwens death & when Peter becomes Spider-Man again. So that explains the semi recovery

 

[Spider-knight]

There is a 9 month gap after Gwens death & when Peter becomes Spider-Man again. So that explains the semi recovery

i thought it was 5 months. did webb cofirm that it takes place waaaay before the rhino fight?

 

[JOE]

They need to turn things around quick. They were a little TOO confident with TASM 2 and it bit them in the rear.

 

[Spider-knight]

They need to turn things around quick. They were a little TOO confident with TASM 2 and it bit them in the rear.

and i really don't think they're that optimistic about a sinister six movie nor black cat, venom, or anybody who's gonna have some spinoffs and sequels. they might as well cancel the whole thing and give it to marvel or like i said give us a director's cut version of TASM 2 and give the creators freedom. can you imagine a film by drew goddard sucking and not only that a film about spiderman's rogues galleries?

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

the premise for webb's third installment will be about peter's road to recovery which just contradicts the last movie because in the end peter recovers pretty quickly. since sony is known for making the latest series into a cash grab do you believe it'll fail because i really hope they change the premise. marc webb and crew had 2 below average films and if one more will prove poorly box office and critical wise then marc webb's entire reputation is ruined as is spidey's. i just hope the road to recovery thing is related to the director's cut version.

He didn't recover he just suited up to return as Spider-Man. He isn't over her death he simply passed the first hurdle to getting his life back on track.

Every blockbuster is a cash grab.

and i really don't think they're that optimistic about a sinister six movie nor black cat, venom, or anybody who's gonna have some spinoffs and sequels. they might as well cancel the whole thing and give it to marvel or like i said give us a director's cut version of TASM 2 and give the creators freedom. can you imagine a film by drew goddard sucking and not only that a film about spiderman's rogues galleries?

 

[Spiderine]

His journey in the aftermath of the love of his life Gwen's death was completely glossed over. We didn't even see his immediate rage against Harry who was responsible. And now its just on to the next chapter. I don't know where they go from here. Can't imagine more teaser posters with black suited spidey? Spidey's version of Catwoman? More cartoonish villains teaming together? Venom? Goblins? No originality left for where they look like they were headed in this franchise.

 

[HanShotFirst]

Fail how exactly? It could fail critically like TASM2 did but I doubt it'll fail box office wise. Sure it will gross less than TASM2, but with enough budget cut it should do okay.

 

[Spider-knight]

Fail how exactly? It could fail critically like TASM2 did but I doubt it'll fail box office wise. Sure it will gross less than TASM2, but with enough budget cut it should do okay.

a sinister six film within the same universe as amazing won't do well at the box office. i can guarantee that. i can tell you that it'll most likely fail box office and critically wise or maybe not if sony learns from their mistakes

 

[chaseter]

It will fail unless they make the movie for $150 million...which they won't/can't. Even if the movie is good/great, it will still fail because the GA has been burned too many times. See Batman Begins for example....Batman Begins had amazing legs though. I wouldn't call BB a failure in retrospect as it didn't do good at the box office but it was an investment that paid off in the future for WB.

Also...Batman Begins will have made more at the domestic box office than ASM2. That is pathetic. Sony is in a no win scenario.

 

[Spider-knight]

He didn't recover he just suited up to return as Spider-Man. He isn't over her death he simply passed the first hurdle to getting his life back on track.

Every blockbuster is a cash grab.

that's true. despite spiderman suiting up and fighting crime and cracking jokes he isn't really much over his uncle and girfriend's death. but the film would've been better to take place after the goblin fight and before the rhino fight and have his fight with rhino much longer

 

[Spider-knight]

It will fail unless they make the movie for $150 million...which they won't/can't. Even if the movie is good/great, it will still fail because the GA has been burned too many times. See Batman Begins for example....Batman Begins had amazing legs though. I wouldn't call BB a failure in retrospect as it didn't do good at the box office but it was an investment that paid off in the future for WB.

Also...Batman Begins will have made more at the domestic box office than ASM2. That is pathetic. Sony is in a no win scenario.

the only way they can get money for us is:

a) give us a director's cut

b) give creators freedom

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

His journey in the aftermath of the love of his life Gwen's death was completely glossed over. We didn't even see his immediate rage against Harry who was responsible. And now its just on to the next chapter.

How could he rage against a person locked away?

that's true. despite spiderman suiting up and fighting crime and cracking jokes he isn't really much over his uncle and girfriend's death.

I found him to be 10% quippy in the fight against Rhino, compared to the 90% in other battles.

It will fail unless they make the movie for $150 million...which they won't/can't. Even if the movie is good/great, it will still fail because the GA has been burned too many times. See Batman Begins for example....Batman Begins had amazing legs though. I wouldn't call BB a failure in retrospect as it didn't do good at the box office but it was an investment that paid off in the future for WB.

Also...Batman Begins will have made more at the domestic box office than ASM2. That is pathetic. Sony is in a no win scenario.

The GA don't feel as burned as you think. Audience ratings as fairly good, only critics and hardcore fans are the ones who rate it lowly.

The movie is only $30 mil or so behind TWS. Hardly a flop

 

[chaseter]

Audience ratings are not good. Look at the Cinemascore, box office drops, and the fact that the RT user score has dropped 5% is 2 weeks with about 10,000 votes....let alone how little money this is making aka GA voting with their wallet.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Audience ratings are not good. Look at the Cinemascore, box office drops, and the fact that the RT user score has dropped 5% is 2 weeks with about 10,000 votes....let alone how little money this is making aka GA voting with their wallet.

So Second highest grossing Worldwide and third highest grossing domestically of the year is little?

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Maybe. It depends.

 

[chaseter]

Also, TWS cost $80 million less to make and is $30 million ahead of ASM2...that is $110 million difference domestic. That is not good.

 

[chaseter]

So Second highest grossing Worldwide and third highest grossing domestically of the year is little?

When you don't count costs, then yeah it's great! I spent $100 on a used bike and sold it for $75! I made $75!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Currently the movie is around $670 million. If the budget and marketing was $250 million then they've broke even at the very least by making back triple their budget

 

[chaseter]

Do you know how box office returns work? Serious question...not trying to be rude.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

From what I know they need to double or triple their budget to break even. Which they have done it seems

 

[chaseter]

You have to add in marketing costs, which some say is $100 million to $150 million and you have to calculate returns. It's usually 50% domestic and way less in overseas markets like China. I think it's like 1/3 return in China. I would have to find the article but I believe this film has to make $750 million WW to break even at the box office or around that number...can't remember exactly.

 

[HanShotFirst]

a sinister six film within the same universe as amazing won't do well at the box office. i can guarantee that. i can tell you that it'll most likely fail box office and critically wise or maybe not if sony learns from their mistakes

Sinister Six? Your thread title is misleading then? I thought we were talking about TASM3?

 

[Dasher10]

I already have low hopes for TASM3. Sony should give the rights back to Marvel so Spider-Man can join the Avengers. TASM was too grim. TASM2 was too light. TASM3 needs to either absolutely blow me out of the water or the rights should revert back to Marvel.

Right now, Disney and Fox are putting out far better films and TASM2 had the first weekend of May. Sony should just accept that they'll never make as much money as the other studios and sell the rights back. Even Warner is doing better than Sony so I can't bring myself to get excited for Spider-Man.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

You have to add in marketing costs, which some say is $100 million to $150 million and you have to calculate returns. It's usually 50% domestic and way less in overseas markets like China. I think it's like 1/3 return in China. I would have to find the article but I believe this film has to make $750 million WW to break even at the box office or around that number...can't remember exactly.

According to Deadline marketing was $180-190 million.