Superman Returns Will they make sequel?

[retconned]

The next film you might see Superman in is the eventual Batman/Superman film, which, if there is a god, won't be helmed by Bryan Singer. This movie would of course follow the sequel to Batman Begins, which will rock because there are talented people behind it.

And Im being serious. I could see Warner Brothers making there Batman Begins sequel, and then saying screw it lets just do Batman/Superman now. It would actually fit the Returns story, being that the Peterson/Walker script was more of a Batman story, and that Superman/Clark Kent spends alot of downtime in Smallville pining for Lana Lang. If you use that idea, it would fit like a glove seeing that Lois is with Richard, superson and all.

 

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yeah, joblo.com talked about swhat singer is doing next he passed up on logans run to work on the next supes...i guess i was wrong, i didnt think they would make another one but i think singer has learned from his mistakes but id like to see a new writer work on the next one

 

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http://joblo.com/index.php?id=11984 here is the link

 

[dpm07]

yeah, joblo.com talked about swhat singer is doing next he passed up on logans run to work on the next supes...i guess i was wrong, i didnt think they would make another one but i think singer has learned from his mistakes but id like to see a new writer work on the next one

Unfortunately, Singer will never let go of Harris and Daugherty. Those two pieces of trash will be at his coat tails, and follow him anywhere he goes. It's really sad because they are really rather limited talent-wise, IMO and this was illustrated in the film.

 

["_____"]

Unfortunately, Singer will never let go of Harris and Daugherty. Those two pieces of trash will be at his coat tails, and follow him anywhere he goes. It's really sad because they are really rather limited talent-wise, IMO and this was illustrated in the film.

agree

 

[WTFwuzThT]

They just saw their potential go in the crapper with this one. Sorry, it ain't gonna happen. Not with Singer anyway. They've seen what he can do and what he's done by putting out a picture the overwhelming majority didn't like. It's tanking, and POTC2 will only serve as the nail in the coffin. Singer should've stayed with Xmen because his angst and writers couldn't do squat with Superman. It's almost as bad as Tim Story on FFINO.

 

[The Batman]

hmmm....who should i listen to concerning budget, david 33, or the guy who actually made the flick?

 

[retconned]

The budget for Returns was $204 million, and thats not counting the $40 million in aborted projects or the marketing of the film.

I don't know Batman, the guy who made the film promised me a good, heartfelt story and I didn't get one. So I don't know how good that guys word is anymore.

 

[dpm07]

The budget for Returns was $204 million, and thats not counting the $40 million in aborted projects or the marketing of the film.

I don't know Batman, the guy who made the film promised me a good, heartfelt story and I didn't get one. So I don't know how good that guys word is anymore.

It's worth Jack and Schit, and Jack left town.

 

[lazur]

That has nothing to do with the disappointing box office. Most of the movie's key demographic weren't around for or can't remember SM3 and SM4.

You people are really starting to sound like Serenity fans.

Uh huh

Disappointing? I guess you better let the WB execs know that then...

With a Box Office figure of $108,091,711 in its opening week in the U.S., "Superman Returns" has Warner Bros. execs smiling.
"I don't know what to say. This is beyond my expectations", said Bruce Synder, WB's head of distribution.

Arune Singh at ComicBookResources has written another fair-minded article about Superman's box office comparisons to other movies released over previous 4th of July long-weekends...


Last year's big WB superhero release, "Batman Begins" didn't cross the $100 million mark until day ten, making "Superman Returns" an equally well-reviewed and more profitable film. This upward trend bodes well for WB's next superhero flick, "Wonder Woman," and will no doubt encourage fast tracking of the oft-discussed "Green Lantern" and "Flash" films. 2001's big franchise starter, "Lord Of The Rings: Fellowship Of The Ring," took eight days to hit the $100 million mark, and as is well known, that film did just fine thanks to word of mouth and the resulting strong legs at the box office.

Speaking of other movies, Kevin Smith takes a dig at producer Jon Peters in a short promotional trailer for Kevin's up-coming film "Clerks 2".

 

[boywonder13]

Please note that Wikipedia isn't really that much of a realiable source for movies.

It is when their are sources given. WB themselves announced this movie

FREAKIN WARNER BROS. ALREADY ANNOUCNED THIS MOVIE A WHILE BACK!!!!!

THERE WILL BE A SEQUEL!!!

 

[The Caped Knight]

As I can see, SR makes BB's numbers with not bad legs.

Well it can make $130m at the end of this week and then $205-215m in total.

Will it be flop? Because the official budget is $260m.

And if it makes near BB's numbers, will we see sequel?

If yes, then will Singer come back?

What you think?

They will make a sequel, and it already been said that the whole cast is coming back . Routh, Bosworth & Spacey are sgined for 2 more movies .

I believe singer and his crew is coming back .

 

[boywonder13]

They will make a sequel, and it already been said that the whole cast is coming back . Routh, Bosworth & Spacey are sgined for 2 more movies .

I believe singer and his crew is coming back .

Preach it Brother!!!

There is going to be a Sequel wheter you like it or not hates...

They won't cancel because Superman Returns is doing "bad" in the Box Office....becuase

It Simply Isnt.

Superman Returns isnt a flop.....

 

[Cinemaman]

Give me somebody link, where WB confirms $204m budget!!!

 

[logansoldcigar]

Uh huh

Disappointing? I guess you better let the WB execs know that then...

Laz, I know you aint stupid,we all know you aint stupid. do you honestly, honestly, believe that WB put a 204 Million production budget into a movie to be expect less than 108 million for its five day release? (or dop you think that the the term spin applies. cos if i were a betting man, I would bet they were hoping for 108 million for the first two days at worst)

and on the other issue (the aborted projects). I dont believ that they will ever officially say that its been taken into account. But again, when they sit down to discuss a sequel, if the movie does end up with a disappointing worldwide figure (lets say 300mill, to be silly), that someone wont bring the subject up?

 

[lazur]

Laz, I know you aint stupid,we all know you aint stupid. do you honestly, honestly, believe that WB put a 204 Million production budget into a movie to be expect less than 108 million for its five day release? (or dop you think that the the term spin applies. cos if i were a betting man, I would bet they were hoping for 108 million for the first two days at worst)

and on the other issue (the aborted projects). I dont believ that they will ever officially say that its been taken into account. But again, when they sit down to discuss a sequel, if the movie does end up with a disappointing worldwide figure (lets say 300mill, to be silly), that someone wont bring the subject up?

Ugh, sorry, but any time a movie performs badly, the execs at the affected studio are usually the FIRST ones to express disappointment. Why is that not the case here? The movie made over 100 mill in its first week. Like it or not, that is a HIT. It has 19 more weeks to go before it leaves the theater (if it stays as long as Batman Begins). Given that, it'll easily break the 400 mill mark. Combine that with merchandising (action figures) and DVD sales, there's NO WAY this movie can be even remotely considered a failure or a flop. Is it doing Spider-man numbers? No. Does that make it a failure? Absolutely not. But at the same time, if Superman, like Spider-man, had never been done before at the movies, you can bet your a** it'd be doing at least Spider-man's numbers.

In 20 weeks, we'll all get to see how it all works out.

 

[Billy Batson]

Haters everywhere....

It amazes me that people take time out of their busy lives to spit on a film, especially one as great as Superman Returns.

A sequel will get made, Singer will direct it and I'll be in line to see it. The funny part is, so will all the haters.

" Don't Hate Congratulate! "
It's a thin line between love and hate.
I Love , hate the direction of the new film.
Sorry for spitting on OUR film.
Some fans are
Some fans are
Some fans are
Some fans are just
The one thing we all are,FANS of !!!!!

 

[logansoldcigar]

Im not saying its a failure. But I do think its disappointing and not performing as warners expected or wanted (and I havent yet heard a fox exec express his disappointment at X3's horrendous second week drop).

In your opinion, do you think the WB are spinning it?

(and for the record, Im hoping its a massive smash, even if im a not aprticular fan of superman as a character.and Ill still see it when it comes out here, even if im the only person above the age of 16 in the theatre. the more comic book based movies make absolute tons of cash, the more of them we get. i hope it does do spiderman numbers in the long run. I aint into that "marvel hater/dc hater crap. Im a grown up)

 

[Billy Batson]

In your opinion, do you think the WB are spinning it?

YES

 

[JackMercy]

I think everyone should again take a look at the Variety press report from May:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231904

A potential film is indeed "announced" here, but it's not green-lit.

There are a lot of conditional factors at play here...

Also, people should know that actors' contracts are most often conditional as well, with deciding preference given to the studio, of course. Just because said actor is signed for three films, does not mean said potential films will definitely happen [Read any press interviews with Routh or others, and they will note phrases such as "if the film is successful, expect Routh to don the tights for another two films..."]. Additionally, the studio may have the right, should additional films happen under different helmers, to waiver contractual "appearances" should they deem it necessary to a film's financial and critical potential for success.

All this is a roundabout way of saying that things could stay the same, or things could change slightly, or things could change completely. Time will tell.

All I'm saying is that I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket on either side of the fence just yet...

I'd almost guarantee we'll see another film within the next three to seven years, but I won't guarantee what kind of film that would be.

And yes, there is most definitely spin involved here, from both sides...

Cool down and hang out, it's always a bumpy ride in the biz-ness...

 

[Frodo]

In one form or another there i think there will be another Superman movie . Whether they pull a Superman 2 and replace Singer or Whether they decide to take a completly new direction ( I.E restart), there's gonna be another one.

I think they will take the critisims to heart for the next script but they're not gonna walk away from the potential money to be made.

 

[Eye Doc]

Ugh, sorry, but any time a movie performs badly, the execs at the affected studio are usually the FIRST ones to express disappointment. Why is that not the case here? The movie made over 100 mill in its first week. Like it or not, that is a HIT. It has 19 more weeks to go before it leaves the theater (if it stays as long as Batman Begins). Given that, it'll easily break the 400 mill mark. Combine that with merchandising (action figures) and DVD sales, there's NO WAY this movie can be even remotely considered a failure or a flop. Is it doing Spider-man numbers? No. Does that make it a failure? Absolutely not. But at the same time, if Superman, like Spider-man, had never been done before at the movies, you can bet your a** it'd be doing at least Spider-man's numbers.

In 20 weeks, we'll all get to see how it all works out.

We'll find out a lot this weekend when the 2nd weeks box office takes are in. When Spiderman hit in 2002, it opened with 114 million. It's second weeks take was 75 mil. It dropped by 33-35%. Thats considered good in terms of a decline after the opening weekend. On the other hand, the Hulk and X3 had declines in the 60% range. X3 is still doing pretty well b/c it opened so well, but that drop proved the Hulk didn't have any legs. I think DD had a similiar drop in revenue for the second weekend.

If SR drops by 50 to 60%, it's probably going to end up a disappointment for WB. That could very well happen with POTC opening this weekend. If Superman only declines 30 to 35%, it'll probably play well for most of the summer.

Eye Doc

 

[lazur]

We'll find out a lot this weekend when the 2nd weeks box office takes are in. When Spiderman hit in 2002, it opened with 114 million. It's second weeks take was 75 mil. It dropped by 33-35%. Thats considered good in terms of a decline after the opening weekend. On the other hand, the Hulk and X3 had declines in the 60% range. X3 is still doing pretty well b/c it opened so well, but that drop proved the Hulk didn't have any legs. I think DD had a similiar drop in revenue for the second weekend.

If SR drops by 50 to 60%, it's probably going to end up a disappointment for WB. That could very well happen with POTC opening this weekend. If Superman only declines 30 to 35%, it'll probably play well for most of the summer.

Eye Doc

I'm not so sure about the whole theory of it losing to POTC2. Spider-man did very well in its second week despite going up against SW: Attack of the Clones.

I still say the movie will break at least 400 mill worldwide by the time its 20 week period ends and it's out of the theaters.

 

[Eye Doc]

I'm not so sure about the whole theory of it losing to POTC2. Spider-man did very well in its second week despite going up against SW: Attack of the Clones.

I still say the movie will break at least 400 mill worldwide by the time its 20 week period ends and it's out of the theaters.

You're right about Spidey doing well against Attack of the Clones. However, Spidey opened the first weekend in May (the 2nd or 3rd). AOTC didn't open until the third weekend...around may 14 or 15th. Spidey had two full weeks with no menaingful competition. If POTC was opening on the 14th instead of the 7th I think Superman's decline would be less than 50%. Then again, it could still do well even with the competition. We'll know by Sunday.

Eye Doc

 

[JokerNick]

pirates popularity may help SR

if Pirates is sold out, many people may opt to resee Superman Returns