Wolfman-The Offical Thread

[Hunter Rider]

New Footage in French Wolfman Trailer

 

[TheComicbookKid]

This is actually good and bad.


The bad news is that Johnston apparently had a hard time with this. I'm really starting to get worried about Captain America now.

Seriously, GL's moving at a snail's pace and Thor's full-steam ahead. Cap's still at the starting line.

I'm not sure how bringing editors in this late is necessarily a good thing but at least they apparently got the best.

 

[Wolfman]

Well the editor's sure have a good resume. Maybe The Wolfman will howl another night after all.

 

[Figs]

Sounds good, but the running time is really, really short, and I kind of hope they fill in a little of the extra stuff for the theatrical release.

I also had the feeling the story was going to be predictable (does anyone really have much doubt who the other werewolf is?).

I think what I'm most interested in is the good cast and the fact that it apparently doesn't hold back on the horror.

How long have they said the runtime is going to be?

I don't have concerns for all or most of the things that a lot of people are worrying about but this might be the only one. If this movie's runtime is really short I have a feeling it will be one of those films(think TIH)where a good number of scenes that were chopped out would have made the film a lot better as well as more fleshed out.

We'll see how it turns out when it's finally released. Personally, I'm still excited for this movie.

 

[Doctor Jones]

They said it will be around 80 minutes. Which is too damn short for a film like this. Longer doesn't always mean better, but for a film that has the potential to have themes and three dimensional characters, it's impossible for it to fit in less than 90 minutes.

 

[Wolfman]

What?! Around 80 minutes? I hope that's not true. That's not good at all.

 

[dark_b]

cartoons or kids movies are 80 minutes long.

an adult movie with character development is not 80 or 90 minutes long.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Exactly. We need something more. Maybe these top editors being brought in is a good thing.

Who knows how this film will shape up?

 

[Spidey-Bat]

FWIW, Mask of the Phantasm is 76 min and that's the best Batman movie ever.

But yeah, this should be at least 2 hours. Especially since there's going to be some action scenes to show off the effects.

 

[terry78]

LOL, I have to laugh at that runtime considering 2012 and ROTF were running up on three hours.

 

[Figs]

They said it will be around 80 minutes. Which is too damn short for a film like this. Longer doesn't always mean better, but for a film that has the potential to have themes and three dimensional characters, it's impossible for it to fit in less than 90 minutes.

As far as I'm concerned, my opinion until told otherwise is that this is another **** editing job because of the studio's dislike with the original cut.

As I said in my other post, I guarantee this movie will be alot longer if they hadn't decided to edit it down. I'm positive the DVD will have a lot of deleted scenes on there. 80 minutes is absolute ****, hopefully the movie is still enjoyable and I'm crossing my fingers that there might be a Director's Cut down the road.

 

[Octoberist]

80 minutes is like the length of a Degrassi TV movie.

 

[Ratcrawler]

Damn, even Jurassic Park 3 was longer than that.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Sonofa... 80 minutes? What is this, a made for TV movie?

 

[co2]

You guys seem to be confusing quality with quantity.
I'm all for a movie that has as much fat trimmed as possible. Personlly I've grown weary of film makers thinking longer run time=epic. They become too in love with their shots and can't let go of the unnecessary. What did Raimi recently say about Drag Me to Hell? Something along the lines of learning to get to the point. That was not a long film and it kicked some tail.
As long as those 80 minutes are worth it, I'm happy.

 

[Ratcrawler]

The thing is, if this werewolf only transforms during a full moon, there should be a time sPan of a couple of months. Even with great editing, it'd seem weird for that to happen in 80 minutes.

 

[Nivek]

Do not like the running time at all.

 

[BestGirl]

I would prefer a slower moving film, one that develops its characters and situations fully so as to build suspense. That way the action's more meaningful.

 

[Octoberist]

You guys seem to be confusing quality with quantity.
I'm all for a movie that has as much fat trimmed as possible. Personlly I've grown weary of film makers thinking longer run time=epic. They become too in love with their shots and can't let go of the unnecessary. What did Raimi recently say about Drag Me to Hell? Something along the lines of learning to get to the point. That was not a long film and it kicked some tail.
As long as those 80 minutes are worth it, I'm happy.

Well that's subjective in regards to the running time in other movies.

But 80 minutes...jeez. I think 98 minutes would have been okay with people but 80 minutes is pushing it.

But because of the troublesome production on this movie, I see this as a bad thing. It just smells like your typical 'studio interference' story. I hope that Universal will release the uncut version on dvd.

 

[Nivek]

Well, IMO, Universal has let this film "cook" for too long to begin with. Obviously, there are some serious behind the scenes issues with this film, and a under 90 minute runtime does not sound positive at all to me.

 

[Lex Luthor]

Jeez. Reading about the running time made me think of 2005's Red Eye. Which was about 80 minutes as well. I liked it, but for a film such as this ... 80 minutes seems a bit too moderate.

 

[Wolfman]

I would prefer a slower moving film, one that develops its characters and situations fully so as to build suspense. That way the action's more meaningful.

I wouldn mind something like that either.

 

[strikezone89]

I'm really looking forward to this movie. I love that there bringing back the classic "monster" especially since the wolfman has been underrated as a monster while vampires have been taking up all the spotlight. If it's true with only an 80 minutre run time thats kinda upsetting because i really want this movie to have good character development and I dont think an 80 min. run time will give that justice. But then again i could be wrong. i mean when i found out Ledger was cast as joker i'll admit i was a hater until i saw the film.

 

[Abraham]

The original The Wolf Man was 70 minutes some of the greatest films of all time are below two hours, Id rather a tightly paced film than some bloated garbage like those two Transformers movies (didn't see the second one but heard it was no better than the boring first)

An American Were-wolf in London was only like 91. And recently Zombieland was terrific movie with a shorter than normal running time (to people used to a generation of bloated trashy blockbusters)

Also 80 minutes running time (approx) and early review was BEFORE new editors were brought in, as Flexo posted.

So the film is clearly being re-edited, meaning running time is back up in the air.

follow-up article:

UNIVERSAL CALLS IN SERIOUS REINFORCEMENTS FOR THE WOLFMAN

It has been obvious for some time that The Wolfman has not been a blessed production. I'm not going to list once again the replacements, changes, and re-do's that have occurred with this film, but it suffices to say it's been troubled.

When all else fails though, and you are wondering how to turn out a respectable product, you could do a whole lot worse than hiring a goddamn genius to re-cut your film. The keen eyes over at /Film managed to catch the bit of news hidden in a Variety article that Mark Goldblatt and Walter Murch have been hired to re-cut the film. Mark Goldblatt has edited everything from Terminator 2 to G-Force, with some truly inspired work amongst his filmography. Walter Murch is the Oscar-winning great that, besides pretty much inventing modern sound editing, is one of the most celebrated editors of all time (his book In The Blink of An Eye is absolutely essential for those wishing to understand why film works as a medium).

If it is the case that the film is in a bad place, there is no guarantee that these two will save it. If the film simply needs some help though, then Universal did a fine job finding a pair to intervene.

May we cross our fingers for a movie no one wants to see fail.

On a related note, there is new French poster for the film that follows the established pattern of moody simplicity.*

Let us hope for a smooth path between now and February 12th for The Wolfman.

*Took me a second to work out that he was holding it behind his back. I was beginning to wonder if one of the Wolfman's new maladies was impossible hands.

 

[Eldarion]

This movie deserved a more consistent threatment, they had a great cast. I don't get it why everyone started to drop out, Elfman and others. It would be a shame if this goes wrong. Would've liked if the film was 20-30 minutes longer. Still one of my most anticipated movies of 2010.