Wolverine in Japan

[The Overlord]

If the sequel is going to be set in Japan, what should the story be about? Should they film in Japan? Who should they hire to play the new characters?

 

[EnDz0n3]

I don't know about filming on location in Japan but they have got to put more effort into dressing the set to look more like Japan.

That Japan set they had at the end of Wolverine looked like it was shot in Brett Ratner's mansion... sigh

 

[Project862006]

Yukio - Moon BloodGood - she is half korean
http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/terminator_salvation_moon_bloodgood_still1.jpg

Shingen - Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/pv/Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa-7.jpg

these are just 2 off the top of my head

 

[Deaths Head II]

That Japan set they had at the end of Wolverine looked like it was shot in Brett Ratner's mansion... sigh

Well it was only made for an after credits scene that lasted about one minute. If they made a whole film about Japan, they would put more effort to them as they would be put to more use.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Well, I think we'll be seeing the Miller/Claremont story in the next movie along with characters from the story and maybe even new characters.

 

[ScottishFogg]

Do you think they'll address the Lady Deathstrike issue?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Personally, I hope so, but they need to erase Logan's memory again then.

 

[Infinity9999x]

edit

 

[Gatchamanjp]

I want to see...The Silver Samurai and numerous...Hand Ninja.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Well, I think we'll be seeing the Miller/Claremont story in the next movie along with characters from the story and maybe even new characters.

My thoughts exactly

Do you think they'll address the Lady Deathstrike issue?

It's kind of a tough one. The whole conflict with Lady Deathstrike is the idea that she was a former flame of Logan who hates him because she views him as having stolen her father's work (because her father was involved in the adamantium bonding process) by having adamantium put inside him. Since there was no development of that in origins, to do the Deathstrike story would involve lots of flashbacks.

Personally I find the Shingen/Japan story to lend itself more to a movie adaptation than the Deathstrike one. And Deathstrike doesn't really fit with the Shigen/Japan story. Logan already has two love interests in that, he doesn't need a third.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I'm sure they could fit Deathstrike into the Shingen story.

 

[venom892]

But then why wouldn't Logan recognize her in X2?I want no more mindwipes.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I'm sure they could fit Deathstrike into the Shingen story.

I'm sure you could, she just doesn't really fit in with the established themes in the story (though she would fit better than Omega Red for sure).

Deathstrike is all about revenge, and past history with Logan. All she would do is bog down the plot with the time it would take to set up her back story (which would have to be all flashbacks), just to get her to the point where we can establish her as a villain.

Not only that, she just adds on more baggage. As I said above, Wolverine already has two love interests in this story. Part of Yuriko's allure is the fact that she was a former flame of Logan, and the whole "I loved you so much then that I hate you now" thing. It's essentially a lot of backstory that needs to be established to set her up as a villain for Wolverine.

Of course, now that I'm thinking about it, she couldn't be a villain for Wolverine. In the movie-verse, deathstrike didn't get her powers until Stryker got a hold of her and experimented on her, and that won't be for a while. So she could really only serve as a love interest, and we already have two more interesting love interests in this story.

Not to mention the fact that Origins pretty much screwed her history with Logan anyways, since you needed to establish their relationship pre-adamantium for it to make sense.

 

[venom892]

Yea if they just straight adapt the mini and added Silver Samurai and maybe Sunfire that would be for the best.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Yea if they just straight adapt the mini and added Silver Samurai and maybe Sunfire that would be for the best.

That's what I was thinking. Maybe not a straight adaptation ala Sin City, but very close to the story. Silver Samurai would fit perfectly being Shingen's son and Mariko's half brother, and he could add lots of nice little plot complications. You could have him be a rouge, trying to kill his father and sister and claim the empire, working for Shingen as an assasin, or a nice combination of everything. Working for Shingen as an assasin, while planning to kill his father and sister, which puts him in the path of Wolverine.

Man, what I wouldn't give for a massive Logan Vs. Hand and Silver Samurai fightt:

 

[Mr Writer1981]

Ideally, they should just adapt the Claremont/Miller story with little or no changes. Just remove references to the X-Men as Logan wouldn't have joined them yet in the movie-verse. However, there's almost no chance they will do this for one important reason...money!

Commercially, they will want to add other mutants to the story for marketing purposes i.e. for toys, trailers, and posters etc so they can attract the X-men movie series audience and make as much money as possible.

While a true adaptation of Claremont's Wolverine series could be like the Japan scenes from Kill Bill Vol 1 starring Logan (how awesome would that be?) they will be more likely aiming to maintain the tone of the X-Men films.

Despite this unpleasant reality, the movie could still be great if they got a good screenwriter and a good director and the studio doesn't interfere too much (what are the chances?).

Inserting the Silver Samurai into the story (he wasn't in the original) wouldn't be too hard and his sword, energised by his own mutant power, could look cool on screen.

They could also have Shingen (who should stay as the main villain) bring in some hired mutant muscle. Sabretooth is out because it would be too complicated to explain with all the continuity problems and Omega Red just doesn't work at all in this story. But what about Cyber? The character was ruined in later years, but he was awesome in his early appearances particularly Wolverine: Blood Hungry, where he was a truly formidable opponent for Logan.

He could work as Shingen's hired muscle and combined with the Silver Samurai who could be played as a hero/villain this should provide a couple of colourful characters for marketing purposes.

Throw in Yukio and Mariko as love interests, Shingen as the deadly villain behind it all, and the Hand themselves - who could look cool on screen if done right - then you have the ingredients for a cool movie.

The only other character I can think of (with enough history to justify being included in the movie) is Logan's former teacher Ogun, but it might be too much to have him and Shingen in the film. Maybe Ogun could appear in a flashback?

Sunfire would also look cool visually - especially if they use the Age of Apocalyspe version as inspiration for the visuals - but I couldn't see him as being anything more than a flashy cameo.

So to sum up I think it's inevitable Fox will want to include as many mutants as possible in the movie to help "sell" it, but this could still make for a good movie.

Fingers crossed!

 

[Infinity9999x]

Ideally, they should just adapt the Claremont/Miller story with little or no changes. Just remove references to the X-Men as Logan wouldn't have joined them yet in the movie-verse. However, there's almost no chance they will do this for one important reason...money!

Commercially, they will want to add other mutants to the story for marketing purposes i.e. for toys, trailers, and posters etc so they can attract the X-men movie series audience and make as much money as possible.

While a true adaptation of Claremont's Wolverine series could be like the Japan scenes from Kill Bill Vol 1 starring Logan (how awesome would that be?) they will be more likely aiming to maintain the tone of the X-Men films.

Despite this unpleasant reality, the movie could still be great if they got a good screenwriter and a good director and the studio doesn't interfere too much (what are the chances?).

Inserting the Silver Samurai into the story (he wasn't in the original) wouldn't be too hard and his sword, energised by his own mutant power, could look cool on screen.

They could also have Shingen (who should stay as the main villain) bring in some hired mutant muscle. Sabretooth is out because it would be too complicated to explain with all the continuity problems and Omega Red just doesn't work at all in this story. But what about Cyber? The character was ruined in later years, but he was awesome in his early appearances particularly Wolverine: Blood Hungry, where he was a truly formidable opponent for Logan.

He could work as Shingen's hired muscle and combined with the Silver Samurai who could be played as a hero/villain this should provide a couple of colourful characters for marketing purposes.

Throw in Yukio and Mariko as love interests, Shingen as the deadly villain behind it all, and the Hand themselves - who could look cool on screen if done right - then you have the ingredients for a cool movie.

The only other character I can think of (with enough history to justify being included in the movie) is Logan's former teacher Ogun, but it might be too much to have him and Shingen in the film. Maybe Ogun could appear in a flashback?

Sunfire would also look cool visually - especially if they use the Age of Apocalyspe version as inspiration for the visuals - but I couldn't see him as being anything more than a flashy cameo.

So to sum up I think it's inevitable Fox will want to include as many mutants as possible in the movie to help "sell" it, but this could still make for a good movie.

Fingers crossed!

I agree

However, I wouldn't play the Silver Samurai as a hero/villain. I think he would work very well as a straight villain in this. He fits into the story better than anyone else (being Shingen's son), and as I said above, it could make it quite interesting if he works for his father as an assassin, while planning to overthrow his father and kill his sister to gain control of their Clan. You could even have him plotting with the hand to do it all.

 

[BloodyWolverine]

My feelings are that DeadPool will make a cameo atleast and i am certain Gambit will be back.

 

[Infinity9999x]

My feelings are that DeadPool will make a cameo atleast and i am certain Gambit will be back.

Hopefully they don't use the Japanese storyline then, because they don't fit in at all with this story.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

edit:
I was actually almost thinking, what if at some point in the story a young Yuriko is like almost dies or something, and he saves her by giving her a blood transfusion (which could explain how she got the same able, and was able to survive the same operation)
I know thats not how it works, but, maybe, some how it did work

 

[Infinity9999x]

ever since seeing the Japan ended , i'v been thinking about, if she could be worked in or not
and rewatched X2, he didn't not recognize, I mean he wasn't all, "Yuriko, is that you?", but, he did seem to know enough about her to recognized that she was a mutant, (but, after realizing she was under mind control he wouldn't bother trying to talk to her)
and that look on his face as she was dieing, Definitely suggested that he had some connection to her...

It didn't show anything, he was surprised, because he didn't realize to right as she was dying that she was being controlled (eye color changing.)

And he didn't know she was a mutant until the 12inch claws came out of her fingers, not only that, but he had no idea she was being controlled until she died. He definitely had no idea who she was.

so, if she showed up, it could arguably still be in continues, depending on how use her, and how they leave thing between him and her (without having to erasing his memory again)


I was actually almost thinking, what if at some point in the story she like almost dies or something, and he saves her by giving her a blood transfusion (which could explain how she got the same able, and was able to survive the same operation)
I know thats not how it works, but, maybe, some how it did work

Yuriko is almost screwed by this continuity. You'd have to introduce another mind-wipe for it to work (which would just seem silly), and she can't be a villain anyways. She gets her Adamantium from Stryker, not only that, but she was being controlled by Stryker against her will, and had no personal connection to Wolverine in X2, which kind of defeated her purpose as a character, since in the comics she's all about revenge. Unless they completely change her and have her be a mutant who fights Wolverine...for some random reason, she probably won't be in it, and at this point, I'd almost rather she not be included, since she really can't be Deathstrike at all, unless of course they ignore continuity in X2.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

It didn't show anything, he was surprised, because he didn't realize to right as she was dying that she was being controlled (eye color changing.)

And he didn't know she was a mutant until the 12inch claws came out of her fingers, not only that, but he had no idea she was being controlled until she died. He definitely had no idea who she was.

no, ya, that right, I got my scenes mix up, I was thinking of the scene between, Xavier and Striker, where he say, for a person who hates mutant you sure kinda unusual company, then he replys (while injecting her wit hte midna control serum), as long as they can be controled...
for some reason I was thinking that was the scene with him and Wolverine, not him and Xavier

never mind

 

[Infinity9999x]

no, ya, that right, I got my scenes mix up, I was thinking of the scene between, Xavier and Striker, where he say, for a person who hates mutant you sure kinda unusual company, then he replys (while injecting her wit hte midna control serum), as long as they can be controled...
for some reason I was thinking that was the scene with him and Wolverine, not him and Xavier

never mind

Don't worry about it, it happens

Though I wish we would have gotten some sore of inkling relationship between Wolvie and Deathstrike. Singer did a lot of things right, but handling the relationship between Wolverine and his villains wasn't one of them.

 

[Project862006]

Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa should be cast as Shingen

 

[Infinity9999x]

Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa should be cast as Shingen

He definitely has the look. What's he acted in?