Andrew Lucas
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Yeah,Peter doesn't care about anyone :/
He misses them to the point of be an ungrateful idiot towards his aunt and uncle, who were the ones who raised him. Aunt May and Uncle Ben are his parents, as far as I'm concerned. People come from all different kinds of families, and I've always thought it was cool that Peter came from a slightly different family structure, so it's pretty stupid to have Peter this fixated on his biological parents, in my opinion. Also, whenever Peter spoke of Uncle Ben in the movie, it was in a condescending way. It was awful.
While we're on the subject, I loved Aunt May's verbal smackdown on Peter in the movie. Peter deserved to get yelled at. Too bad he didn't learn his lesson, because his lines in that scene were awful. "Yeah, I'm sorry, and I love you ... But waaah waaaah my parents." Too bad, because Sally Field was awesome in that scene. I wish she had more to do in these movies.
The "And my parents line" ticked me off, because it as if Sony wouldn't stop nudging me on the shoulder about Peter's damn parents. I. Don't. Care. About. His. Parents. Especially if the whole "Roosevelt" revelation was one of the lamest things ever, and especially if Spidey isn't in the MCU and his parents can't be involved with S.H.E.I.L.D. Stop trying to make his boring parents happen, Sony. Stop trying to make "Fetch" happen, Sony.

He doesn't even seem to care about his parents though, just his dad.
He misses them to the point of being an ungrateful idiot towards his aunt and uncle, who were the ones who raised him. Aunt May and Uncle Ben are his parents, as far as I'm concerned. People come from all different kinds of families, and I've always thought it was cool that Peter came from a slightly different family structure, so it's pretty stupid to have Peter this fixated on his biological parents, in my opinion. Also, whenever Peter spoke of Uncle Ben in the movie, it was in a condescending way. It was awful.
While we're on the subject, I loved Aunt May's verbal smackdown on Peter in the movie. Peter deserved to get yelled at. Too bad he didn't learn his lesson, because his lines in that scene were awful. "Yeah, I'm sorry, and I love you ... But waaah waaaah my parents." Too bad, because Sally Field was awesome in that scene. I wish she had more to do in these movies.
The "And my parents line" ticked me off, because it was as if Sony wouldn't stop nudging me on the shoulder about Peter's damn parents. I. Don't. Care. About. His. Parents. Especially if the whole "Roosevelt" revelation was one of the lamest things ever, and especially if Spidey isn't in the MCU and his parents can't be involved with S.H.E.I.L.D. Stop trying to make his boring parents happen, Sony. Stop trying to make "Fetch" happen, Sony.
He misses them to the point of being an ungrateful idiot towards his aunt and uncle, who were the ones who raised him. Aunt May and Uncle Ben are his parents, as far as I'm concerned. People come from all different kinds of families, and I've always thought it was cool that Peter came from a slightly different family structure, so it's pretty stupid to have Peter this fixated on his biological parents, in my opinion. Also, whenever Peter spoke of Uncle Ben in the movie, it was in a condescending way. It was awful.
While we're on the subject, I loved Aunt May's verbal smackdown on Peter in the movie. Peter deserved to get yelled at. Too bad he didn't learn his lesson, because his lines in that scene were awful. "Yeah, I'm sorry, and I love you ... But waaah waaaah my parents." Too bad, because Sally Field was awesome in that scene. I wish she had more to do in these movies.
The "And my parents line" ticked me off, because it was as if Sony wouldn't stop nudging me on the shoulder about Peter's damn parents. I. Don't. Care. About. His. Parents. Especially if the whole "Roosevelt" revelation was one of the lamest things ever, and especially if Spidey isn't in the MCU and his parents can't be involved with S.H.E.I.L.D. Stop trying to make his boring parents happen, Sony. Stop trying to make "Fetch" happen, Sony.
I had told several people on here that I was going to take a much needed break from the Hype due to burnout. However, today I was getting a little bored so I decided to stop in and see what was going on and I came across your post and felt the need to post a response.
First off let me say,this is an excellent post, Leenie. I agree with pretty much everything that youve said here. The Spidey-brain within me is all thumbs up and very happy to read this. But, my non-Spidey brain has some thoughts on this topic that I would like to share.
Its often a troubling thing to cause change. Especially when you have a storied character like Spider-Man who has been around for the past 50+ years and its been much of the same in almost every iteration. Its always been about Uncle Ben and Aunt May. Theyre his parents. They raised him, they deserve the credit. Right? Right. My Spidey-brain is all over it. So, when you change this to a certain degree and start to bring his biological parents into the picture wow, talk about an upheaval. Of course it makes a lot of sense that this is going to be met with great resistance and hatred or vitriol. As an example, imagine you are working a particular job for roughly the same amount of time, 50 years or so, and you do your job using method A-B-C. Then, a new boss comes in and says no longer will we be doing A-B-C, its now going to be done X-Y-Z. Change, abrupt change, in the course of something with such a long tradition is not gonna be smooth. In fact its gonna be rough. It will cause a lot of tension. I see no difference here with ASM2. Spidey fans are up-in-arms over this change.
Im not sure how old you are, Leenie, and quite frankly its none of my business. I am in my thirties, married, and the proud father of a little girl. It was actually after my wife and I had just got done watching the first ASM movie and were driving home from the theater that we had an interesting conversation. The whole idea of Peters parents leaving him struck up a talk about what if for some reason we had to leave our daughter. I havent really talked to any other parents about this but I suspect this is one of those important conversations that parents need to have but probably dont really think about. Well, at least my wife and I didnt think about it, not up until we got done seeing ASM. It was a very emotional moment between us, one that I wont forget, holding hands, tears were shed--a gut wrenching talk. Its a thing you just dont want to think about yet its important nonetheless.
Back to Peter. His parents left him on his Uncle and Aunts doorstep without much explanation and rather abruptly. Peter is about 7 or 8, maybe older, when they leave, so his understanding of the situation is enough that hes aware of the abandonment yet not fully capable of grasping how it could possibly be for some other greater good. Its not as if he was sent to stay with his Uncle and Aunt because his parents were abusive or drug addicts or something worseits because his father was doing what he felt was right and trying to protect his son. He found out his research was being used for purposes not originally intended and was essentially be hunted down by those wanting his work. This all makes sense, right? At least to my non-Spidey brain it sure does. And from a parents perspective, its very difficult to think about as a possibility of this occurring. Leaving my child on the doorstep of a family member thru no fault of my own. Gut wrenching.
ASM2 bothered me a bit in the fact that there wasnt more love for Uncle Ben. He was indeed there however a better balance was needed. Though it sounds as if the original screenplay had some flashbacks to Ben and also another instance with Peter hearing his words. It sucks that was cut and I blame the morons at Sony for their meddling. However, non-Spidey brain says, Uncle Ben wasnt mentioned that much but it doesnt really take away from how Peter feels about him. Hey Uncle Ben, youre a great dad, alright. Peters quote from ASM. In my very humble opinion, even with the events in ASM2, it doesnt take away from that line nor how Peter felt about his Uncle in the first movie. The second movie just happens to focus on wanting to know what happened to his parents. And I think a lot of people, Spidey-fans, are looking at all the negative aspects from this, notably the graduation scene and the youre my boy scene with May. Why? Cause it goes back to my comment about change. Its not met with open armsmore like fists. In the Graduation scene he stills comments on Uncle Ben and even hangs his head for a moment after I wish your Uncle was here prior to the and my parents line. But it comes across so negativelytheres that change thing again. For the youre my boy scene he gets down on both knees and holds his Aunts head in his hands, I love you Aunt May, youre all I need. Youre all Im ever going to need. This isnt about that, I just need to know. But again this is some really harsh negative, right? I mean, how dare he think about the truth behind his parents. 50 years of Spider-Man history says, shut the hell up Peter and just love your Uncle and Aunt! But he does. Doesnt he? I dont think that wanting to know about what happened with his parents offsets that fact it maybe just convolutes it a bit. Like I said, a better balance and showing some more Ben would have been appreciated. At the end of the movie though, we see Peter packing up all his parents stuff into a box even their picture and it all gets put away. The mystery is over and he can breathe a bit easier now. Hell carry the lessons forward and hopefully we will see more May and Ben in the future with ASM3.
So, my non-Spidey brain gets going again back to my daughter. I start to think what would happen if my wife and I were suddenly out of the picture with her due to some unfortunate incident car accident, plane crash, etc?? Now shes without us and living with another family member. Even as I type this, my gut has such an incredible aching feeling. I think about all the important timeline tick marks that I would missbirthdays, getting her license, graduating High School, getting accepted to University, graduating from there, her first love, getting married, etc. Knowing that I wouldnt be the one to walk her down the aisleholy Christ, wheres the Kleenex. I mean, in this scenario I am dead and gone so what does it really matter anyway, but whats even more of a troubling thought for me, is that when shes doing all these important things, that she wouldnt be thinking of me or my wife. That even though we gave birth to her and started to raise her, now were out of the picture thru no fault of our own, and were not even a thought on those occasions. Even more troubling is the thought that *gasp* we shouldnt be. Cause shes with some new family now and they are her parents. From this perspective, I am greatly saddened and its a horrible gut wrenching thought process. I hate to get all emo on you here, but tears are welling up as I sit here and type this all out.
Good lord thats a long post! lol. A little tl;dr, for a forum I think.
Oh well, anyways, Leenie, this is what I would call my extended thought process to add onto your post. I hope this all makes some sense and doesnt come off as incoherent rambling. I dont necessarily accept the changes that were made with the parents story but I can understand it and even relate to it, to some degree. Sometimes change can be a good thing
I had told several people on here that I was going to take a much needed break from the Hype due to burnout. However, today I was getting a little bored so I decided to stop in and see what was going on and I came across your post and felt the need to post a response.
First off let me say,this is an excellent post, Leenie. I agree with pretty much everything that youve said here. The Spidey-brain within me is all thumbs up and very happy to read this. But, my non-Spidey brain has some thoughts on this topic that I would like to share.
Its often a troubling thing to cause change. Especially when you have a storied character like Spider-Man who has been around for the past 50+ years and its been much of the same in almost every iteration. Its always been about Uncle Ben and Aunt May. Theyre his parents. They raised him, they deserve the credit. Right? Right. My Spidey-brain is all over it. So, when you change this to a certain degree and start to bring his biological parents into the picture wow, talk about an upheaval. Of course it makes a lot of sense that this is going to be met with great resistance and hatred or vitriol. As an example, imagine you are working a particular job for roughly the same amount of time, 50 years or so, and you do your job using method A-B-C. Then, a new boss comes in and says no longer will we be doing A-B-C, its now going to be done X-Y-Z. Change, abrupt change, in the course of something with such a long tradition is not gonna be smooth. In fact its gonna be rough. It will cause a lot of tension. I see no difference here with ASM2. Spidey fans are up-in-arms over this change.
Im not sure how old you are, Leenie, and quite frankly its none of my business. I am in my thirties, married, and the proud father of a little girl. It was actually after my wife and I had just got done watching the first ASM movie and were driving home from the theater that we had an interesting conversation. The whole idea of Peters parents leaving him struck up a talk about what if for some reason we had to leave our daughter. I havent really talked to any other parents about this but I suspect this is one of those important conversations that parents need to have but probably dont really think about. Well, at least my wife and I didnt think about it, not up until we got done seeing ASM. It was a very emotional moment between us, one that I wont forget, holding hands, tears were shed--a gut wrenching talk. Its a thing you just dont want to think about yet its important nonetheless.
Back to Peter. His parents left him on his Uncle and Aunts doorstep without much explanation and rather abruptly. Peter is about 7 or 8, maybe older, when they leave, so his understanding of the situation is enough that hes aware of the abandonment yet not fully capable of grasping how it could possibly be for some other greater good. Its not as if he was sent to stay with his Uncle and Aunt because his parents were abusive or drug addicts or something worseits because his father was doing what he felt was right and trying to protect his son. He found out his research was being used for purposes not originally intended and was essentially be hunted down by those wanting his work. This all makes sense, right? At least to my non-Spidey brain it sure does. And from a parents perspective, its very difficult to think about as a possibility of this occurring. Leaving my child on the doorstep of a family member thru no fault of my own. Gut wrenching.
ASM2 bothered me a bit in the fact that there wasnt more love for Uncle Ben. He was indeed there however a better balance was needed. Though it sounds as if the original screenplay had some flashbacks to Ben and also another instance with Peter hearing his words. It sucks that was cut and I blame the morons at Sony for their meddling. However, non-Spidey brain says, Uncle Ben wasnt mentioned that much but it doesnt really take away from how Peter feels about him. Hey Uncle Ben, youre a great dad, alright. Peters quote from ASM. In my very humble opinion, even with the events in ASM2, it doesnt take away from that line nor how Peter felt about his Uncle in the first movie. The second movie just happens to focus on wanting to know what happened to his parents. And I think a lot of people, Spidey-fans, are looking at all the negative aspects from this, notably the graduation scene and the youre my boy scene with May. Why? Cause it goes back to my comment about change. Its not met with open armsmore like fists. In the Graduation scene he stills comments on Uncle Ben and even hangs his head for a moment after I wish your Uncle was here prior to the and my parents line. But it comes across so negativelytheres that change thing again. For the youre my boy scene he gets down on both knees and holds his Aunts head in his hands, I love you Aunt May, youre all I need. Youre all Im ever going to need. This isnt about that, I just need to know. But again this is some really harsh negative, right? I mean, how dare he think about the truth behind his parents. 50 years of Spider-Man history says, shut the hell up Peter and just love your Uncle and Aunt! But he does. Doesnt he? I dont think that wanting to know about what happened with his parents offsets that fact it maybe just convolutes it a bit. Like I said, a better balance and showing some more Ben would have been appreciated. At the end of the movie though, we see Peter packing up all his parents stuff into a box even their picture and it all gets put away. The mystery is over and he can breathe a bit easier now. Hell carry the lessons forward and hopefully we will see more May and Ben in the future with ASM3.
So, my non-Spidey brain gets going again back to my daughter. I start to think what would happen if my wife and I were suddenly out of the picture with her due to some unfortunate incident car accident, plane crash, etc?? Now shes without us and living with another family member. Even as I type this, my gut has such an incredible aching feeling. I think about all the important timeline tick marks that I would missbirthdays, getting her license, graduating High School, getting accepted to University, graduating from there, her first love, getting married, etc. Knowing that I wouldnt be the one to walk her down the aisleholy Christ, wheres the Kleenex. I mean, in this scenario I am dead and gone so what does it really matter anyway, but whats even more of a troubling thought for me, is that when shes doing all these important things, that she wouldnt be thinking of me or my wife. That even though we gave birth to her and started to raise her, now were out of the picture thru no fault of our own, and were not even a thought on those occasions. Even more troubling is the thought that *gasp* we shouldnt be. Cause shes with some new family now and they are her parents. From this perspective, I am greatly saddened and its a horrible gut wrenching thought process. I hate to get all emo on you here, but tears are welling up as I sit here and type this all out.
Good lord thats a long post! lol. A little tl;dr, for a forum I think.
Oh well, anyways, Leenie, this is what I would call my extended thought process to add onto your post. I hope this all makes some sense and doesnt come off as incoherent rambling. I dont necessarily accept the changes that were made with the parents story but I can understand it and even relate to it, to some degree. Sometimes change can be a good thing

It seems Peter loves Ben and May less because they are less interesting than his parents.
Perfect example: Peter drops finding out why Ben had to die for finding out why his parents had to die.
These writers are terrible and I don't think Marc Webb gets the character at all.
Yet he didn't look for Ben's killer at all in ASM2. Shows how important Ben is to him when Ben's death is unresolved. He did not honor Ben the whole first movie lol. As soon as the Lizard showed up he isn't mentioned until the ending voicemail over the police sketch. Here he's mentioned like once??? Not to mention Peter is a dick about it too.

It seems Peter loves Ben and May less because they are less interesting than his parents.
Perfect example: Peter drops finding out why Ben had to die for finding out why his parents had to die.
These writers are terrible and I don't think Marc Webb gets the character at all.