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Worst moments in Batman films.

You make a good argument but again i just didnt see the release of this personality in the performance not in the same way as B89/BR or TDKR where batman is the brooding dominant personality iching to get out it still seems an act to me in BB but each to thier own.
 
Though I can fault many scenes in Batman Forever & B&R, I can't really fault any scenes in Batman Begins, Batman '89, & Batman Returns. Yes something like Vicky coming into the Batcave, Joker being the killer of Bruce's Parents, The Tumbler, the hanging upside down scene in BB, or the Penguins with rockets on their backs will annoy many people, though it might of been better excluding some of those things for me I think they are fine and don't detract from the films. The Joker being the killer of Bruce's parents is probably the most annoying thing out Batman '89 but I'm not gonna think of the film any less, Batman Returns worst scene probably is the penguins with rockets but again for me doesn't bother me that much, & Rachael Dawes in Batman Begins is the worst thing but again I can live with it.
 
It looks like people have been repeating the same things for a while now.I will bring in 2 things that i thought were bad moments...

In Batman and Robin,Batman and Robin are arguging over Poison Ivy.During the argument Batman pulls out the infamus credit card,but no matter what..i think Batman and Robin arguging so openly is out of character.

In Batman 1989,Joker shoots down the Batplane and takes Vale hostage..they then go into this old cathedral.It looks ancient,far older than anything in Gotham.What would something like that be doing in Gotham?Fast foreward to the end,where Joker is dancing on the edge,while Batman and Vale are hanging from a gargoyle.

A Joker plane carries him off...when Batman uses a gargoyle to make him fall.The moment is as Joker is falling,it shows just how tall the cathedral is,it's higher than any other building in Gotham.Even taller than the skyscrappers...what about that?
 
I dont get that Gotham cathedral is old so what? isnt there many old churches in an old city like say new york?

And the cathedral being tall is just bad continuation it happens.
 
In Batman 1989,Joker shoots down the Batplane and takes Vale hostage..they then go into this old cathedral.It looks ancient,far older than anything in Gotham.What would something like that be doing in Gotham?Fast foreward to the end,where Joker is dancing on the edge,while Batman and Vale are hanging from a gargoyle.

It seems some cities have cathedrals where people go to pray. Some other cities insist in keeping older buildings intact, as if they were important part of its past they refuse to merely knock down.

A Joker plane carries him off...when Batman uses a gargoyle to make him fall.The moment is as Joker is falling,it shows just how tall the cathedral is,it's higher than any other building in Gotham.Even taller than the skyscrappers...what about that?

Yeah. I mean, I just noticed in my own town there are buildings that are far taller than other ones. What's with that, people?

It's like in expressionist movies they exaggerate things to make a dramatic effect.
 
THE FIGHT SCENES IN BATMAN BEGINS! this is debatable to some but the scenes are absolutley terrible in comparison to other movies watched the bourne ultimatum and Serenity just recently the fight scenes are a thousand times better then BB which sopposedly features a man who is a master martial artist shouldnt we expect to see these moves?.
 
I realize that many people have a problem with Alfred letting Vicki into the Batcave. I did too...until I watched B89 recently. Bruce goes to her apartment to tell Vicki he is Batman. Had Joker never popped up at her place Bruce would have told her. Alfred was just doing what Bruce was gonna do.
 
I realize that many people have a problem with Alfred letting Vicki into the Batcave. I did too...until I watched B89 recently. Bruce goes to her apartment to tell Vicki he is Batman. Had Joker never popped up at her place Bruce would have told her. Alfred was just doing what Bruce was gonna do.

Exactly.

It was what Bruce should have done, what Alfred told him to do but Bruce never did: to be honest with her.

In the end, Alfred forced Bruce's hand as the father figure he was.

I never had a problem with that. It was totally consistent with the character in the mvoie.
 
In BB, at the end, Katie Holmes setting a lover relationship then choking it right away. I didn't felt any chemistry or almost. To me, it was just a boring transition between the climax (stopping Ra's) and the ending (rooftop meeting with Gordon).
 
In BB, at the end, Katie Holmes setting a lover relationship then choking it right away. I didn't felt any chemistry or almost. To me, it was just a boring transition between the climax (stopping Ra's) and the ending (rooftop meeting with Gordon).

the whole scene was a waste...Rachel finds out a few hours ago he's Batman and she automaticly knows that Batman is real self and Bruce is the mask??!!
Then she professes her love for him....i agree there was no chemistry, no hint that either one was interested in each other
 
Rachel felt like those girl friends from your childhood that are more like your sister. The kiss and everything felt forced. It was an 'I kiss you to inform you I love you but then I reject you which was my whole point all the time, so how about if we hold hands to symbolize all of that?' situation.
 
Batman '89: The editing with Eckhart having stubble/facial hair, then not, then having stubble within a couple of scenes, the Batplane blowing up too soon (sweet design), killing The Joker off.

Batman Returns: The Max Schrek character. If they wanted to use a crime boss, then they should have used maroni or falcone or someone along those lines, The Penguin sucking up the fish in the electoral planning scene, killing the Penguin off, that fake looking fried Max at the end.

Batman Forever: Two Face being the killer of the Graysons, the new Batman theme, the scene where the Riddler smashed the diamond display, picked up a big diamond and then when he went to look at it with the magnifying glass it turned into a tiny one (bad editing)

B&R: the only thing that was good was the interaction with Bruce and Alfred dying scenes.

Batman Begins: YES, there are a couple- "Ra's Al Ghul" dying in the first act, not following the Ra's storyline, Ducard being Ra's (just wrong), the casting of Flass (should have been more of the "Year One" Flass).

IMO
 
Batman Returns, when he rips his mask off in Pengiun's lair in front of Catwoman. In one shot he has the normal dark Batman eyes, camera turns to Catwoman, when it turns back to Keaton there is no dark makeup around his eyes and they're now magically skin tone as he rips the mask off. I'm sure it would have looked stupid if he ripped the mask off and his eye shadow was plainly obvious, but couldn't they have done something via computer effects to make it look less silly?

Gaz
 
The "tribute" Tim Burton gets at the end of Batman Forever

Chase: Dr. Burton tells me, you know who Batman is.

Come on.
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Batman Forever: It's the car right? Chicks dig the car.

Batman would never say "chicks" go back in the history of Batman in any genre and prove he has evvvvvvvvvvvvvvver said "chicks."
 
Batman blowing up that Clown in Batman Returns. All the fight scenes in the circus gang attack sequence are pretty ridiculous.
 
Batman blowing up that Clown in Batman Returns. All the fight scenes in the circus gang attack sequence are pretty ridiculous.

I know the whole "Batman does not kill" was surely out the door with Burton's films. Even though they were great films.

It's funny, when I was little, those rules didnt bother me until I got into the character more. When I was 10 for Batman 1989 and then in 1992 with 'Returns', the killing thing wasnt bothersome. Now that I am 28 and know the characters pretty well, BIIIIIIIG NO-NO.
 
I know the whole "Batman does not kill" was surely out the door with Burton's films. Even though they were great films.

It's funny, when I was little, those rules didnt bother me until I got into the character more. When I was 10 for Batman 1989 and then in 1992 with 'Returns', the killing thing wasnt bothersome. Now that I am 28 and know the characters pretty well, BIIIIIIIG NO-NO.
It was a confetti bomb, not a real one. He didn't kill the guy.
 
It was a confetti bomb, not a real one. He didn't kill the guy.

Or did he??? He threw him down a shute so we dont know if it was a real bomb with a special effect to not make it blood and guts or you're right and it was confetti however wouldnt we see him again later on in the movie if it was confetti?
 
I know the whole "Batman does not kill" was surely out the door with Burton's films. Even though they were great films.

It's funny, when I was little, those rules didnt bother me until I got into the character more. When I was 10 for Batman 1989 and then in 1992 with 'Returns', the killing thing wasnt bothersome. Now that I am 28 and know the characters pretty well, BIIIIIIIG NO-NO.

Burton's films are based on the original 30's Batman comics, in which Batman does kill bad guys. In the first ever Batman story, he kills a bad guy by punching him into a vat of acid. Atleast in Burton's version he tries to save him...
 
Or did he??? He threw him down a shute so we dont know if it was a real bomb with a special effect to not make it blood and guts or you're right and it was confetti however wouldnt we see him again later on in the movie if it was confetti?
You can buy confetti bombs apparently, and you see the confetti explode behind Batman as he walks away.
 
Burton's films are based on the original 30's Batman comics, in which Batman does kill bad guys. In the first ever Batman story, he kills a bad guy by punching him into a vat of acid. Atleast in Burton's version he tries to save him...

My knowledge of the Bat does not go that far into the 30s. My love began with Adam West's Batman with reruns...so with that, I thank you for clarification.
 
I realize that many people have a problem with Alfred letting Vicki into the Batcave. I did too...until I watched B89 recently. Bruce goes to her apartment to tell Vicki he is Batman. Had Joker never popped up at her place Bruce would have told her. Alfred was just doing what Bruce was gonna do.

Alfred didn't tell Vicki. Vicki figured it out herself.
 
^ Yeah, Vicki knew Bruce was Batman the moment Knox said "What do you suppose something like this (losing parents to violence) does to a kid?"

That's where she was going in a hurry. So since she already knew, Alfred was just doing the sensible thing, especially since it was clear Vicki and Bruce had a deeper connection to one another. Had Vicki not been so important to Bruce, and had Alfred not realized this early on, I doubt he would've taken her down there.

CFE
 
^ Yeah, Vicki knew Bruce was Batman the moment Knox said "What do you suppose something like this (losing parents to violence) does to a kid?"

That's where she was going in a hurry. So since she already knew, Alfred was just doing the sensible thing, especially since it was clear Vicki and Bruce had a deeper connection to one another. Had Vicki not been so important to Bruce, and had Alfred not realized this early on, I doubt he would've taken her down there.

CFE

Exactly. Alfred lets Vicki in the Batcave because he hopes she'll persuade Bruce to give up being Batman.
 

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