Seems you missed a lot of key subtext and the meaning of scenes...
mclay18 said:
Batman (1989)
- Every time Vicki Vale screams for no good reason
- "Honey, you'll never believe what happened to me today", plus when Jerry Hall faints
- The segment involving the newswoman dying laughing and that stupid Joker ad
- The sequence where the Joker and his henchmen deface the museum, set to a Prince song (which is not a key plot point in my opinion)
- The scene where the Joker uses the really long gun to bring down the Batwing
- Crazy ***** was happening around her, I think ANY woman would scream. It wasn't for "no good reason." Of course, they weren't thinking too hard about her. If she was in Corto Maltese, she'd be a lot tougher. In the novelization, she's much stronger, hardly ever screams.
- How is that in any way bad? He appeared to greet his lover, Alicia, and she thought he was dead, she fainted when he realized it was him and that he was alive (not to mention now he's a freak)
- That's straight out of the comics, bud. Try reading the Joker's first appearance in Batman #1. People die laughing with a huge grin and the Joker, appears on TV to tell the next guy he's screwed. Same thing in the film. In his wacky way, he stages a commercial (sadistically cruel), and in so-many words tells Gotham that they're all going to die if they use beauty/hygeine products.
- That was derivative of the subplot Burton and Hamm added, the idea that the Joker fancied himself a twisted artist. WB was adding Prince in whether or not Burton wanted. Luckily, Prince "got it" and wrote music that represented the voice of the Joker.
- Supported by physics. The longer the barrel of your gun, the more force your projectile will have. Add to that that it was an explosive shell and that you can't truly armor up a plane too much (due to weight), and it makes perfect sense.
Batman Returns
- Every scene that involves the Penguin riding around on his toy car
- The scene where Selena's brought to life with cat licks
- The absurd plotline with rocket launchers attached to penguins
- "Bruce Wayne? Why're you dressed up as Batman?" "Because he is Batman, you moron."
- Can't argue with you about that one, though I'd hardly consider it bad. It was a car that was made for the zoo before it was closed. Penguin was just using it.
- It was symbolic. Burton went for a mystical quality to make the film, well.... more mythical.
- Absurd? He was controlling the Penguins with sonic transmissions. Seems logical
enough to me.
- Sadistically funny. And perfectly illustrates a key comic book point: no one really believes that Bruce Wayne could be Batman, so Shreck doesn't think it could possibly be true.
Batman Begins
- Rachel Dawes's character
- "Gentlemen, time to spread the word. And the word is -- panic."
- Meh. She was okay. Don't see why people hate her so much. Despite how much I loathe BB, I don't mind Dawes.
- Personally, I found everything Neeson did to be a high point of that film.