Worst moments in movies

[Zev]

FIVE-MINUTE DAREDEVIL PART 3, THE "I HAVE ALLERGIES, SO I'M ABOUT TO SIT MY ASS DOWN ON THE COUCH, EAT PIZZA, AND WATCH TOMBSTONE" EDITION.

We pan up the side of a building (just like in Batman for Jack Palance's character) to see Kingpin. Some generic rap song about being a dirty dog (because he's a GANGSTA, you see) is playing and Kingpin is posed with his cane in between his legs, like no one ever stands in real-life unless they think it makes them look cool, when in reality they just look like tools.

KINGPIN: Bwahahahaha! Look at me! I'm really big, so I must be scary! Bwahaha!

WESLEY: Sir, your lieutenants are here to see you.

The lieutenants pile in, NATCHIOS (Elektra's father. IT ALL TIES TOGETHER!) is one of them.

NATCHIOS: Good news, sir. No one believes there could be one person responsible for all the major crimes in a city, even though there have been such real-life crime lords as Carlo Gambino, John Gotti and Boss Tweed.

KINGPIN: Good. It would take some kind of 'superhero' to bring us down. This hypothetical 'foe of evil' would have to be relentless and possibly red-garbed. But not in leather, otherwise he would look like an Xtreme version of the Kool-Aid Man.

DAREDEVIL: (busting through wall) OH YEAH!

NATCHIOS: Well, that was disconcerting. Listen, I was around for Year One in Falcone's day. I know not to stick in the rackets once you hear about some shadowy hero. I'm dropping out.

KINGPIN: Oh yes. You're going to drop out alright. MWAHAHAHAHAHA!

NATCHIOS: Was I supposed to fall to my doom or something?

KINGPIN: Oh, sorry, that's going to be Bullseye. Just like Joker in Batman. Now then. You wanted to get out of the evil business for no real reason.

NATCHIOS: I never said that. The WB made me a very good offer!

KINGPIN: Well. The press wants to know who's Kingpin, we'll give them a Kingpin. A DEAD Kingpin!

WESLEY: No! Don't commit suicide!

NATCHIOS: I'm still right here.

***

SPIDER-MAN: Wow, what a coincidence that Natchios is leaving just as his daughter falls in love with you.

DAREDEVIL: Yeah, anyway...

Suddenly, a giant racket comes from the outside of the church. JUGGERNAUT, his head twisted 180 degrees, flies through the door. A midget-sized, bean-shaped creature floats through the door.

PRIEST: Hey! It's Doop!

DOOP: sodjgnbo[fdash

SPIDER-MAN: Wow. I thought for sure Wolverine or Punisher would show up.

DOOP: asdgjbsfgcxxb

SPIDER-MAN: Well, if that's the case, I can see why they wouldn't be here!

DOOP: sagjbsfgujxcv

DAREDEVIL: What? He's just saying gibberish.

SPIDER-MAN: No he's not. He's speaking perfect English.

DOOP: sdfgoiuhfhoj

SPIDER-MAN: Of course. As comic book characters grow apart from their source, they hear less and less of Doop. Why, during the Clone Saga, I couldn't understand him either.

DOOP: sdfhgjbnxcbucvvv

SPIDER-MAN: You shouldn't say that about Quentin Black. His relationship with his mother is his own business.

DOOP: adguodvhdgjhusfgjcvjhndztju

SPIDER-MAN: My daughter? I don't have a daughter!

DOOP: ashfonbucvbjjjj!

SPIDER-MAN: Trouble? In the future?

DOOP: adgfuojbcxbjjjadg[ojojbbzxcbzsfdh

SPIDER-MAN: Good God! Sorry guys, I've gotta go back.

DAREDEVIL: Back? Back where?

DOOP: BaCK... tO tHe FUtuRe!

DAREDEVIL: Don't say it so loud. You'll wake the whole neighborhood.

ELEKTRA: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Spider-Man and Doop run out. There's a bright flash and Spider-Man walks back in, followed by SPIDER-GIRL.

SPIDER-MAN: And THIS is Daddy's rival.

SPIDER-GIRL: Ah, the jackass.

SPIDER-MAN: Yes. As I remember, before I fought with Dr. Doom, met Captain Britain, and for a strange interlude fought side-by-side with Dormammu against the Brood, he was telling us about his movie.

SPIDER-GIRL: Daredevil? Ah yes, we studied it in Film Critique 101. We had to write an essay about all the pointless changes from the comic to the screen.

PRIEST: What'd you make?

SPIDER-GIRL: I pointed out how Daredevil doesn't kill and cross-referenced it with another essay about how Man Without Fear isn't canon. That got me an A!

SPIDER-MAN: That's my girl!

He gives Spider-Girl a hug.

DAREDEVIL: A loving daughter. Something I can never have.

PRIEST: Why not? You and Elektra seemed to be getting along great. In a few months or so, I'm sure you'd have a healthy relationship.

DAREDEVIL: Ha!

***

ELEKTRA: (Hey, there's Matt. I bet I can surprise him...) Sneak sneak sneak...

MATT: Hi Elektra.

ELEKTRA: WOW! Bza-frtzz-jop! Don't do that!

MATT: Wanna know how I did it?

ELEKTRA: Yes, actually.

MATT: I'll tell you if you go on a date with me.

ELEKTRA: O-tay!

"Raindrops keep falling on my head" plays as we get a montage of Matt and Elektra buying cotton candy, riding on a Merry-Go-Round, screaming on a roller-coaster, posing with a scantily-clad 'superheroine', getting matching tattoos, walking out of a screening of Platoon laughing, etc.

SPIDER-MAN: You know, I'm starting to worry that your soundtrack is going to date your movie.

DAREDEVIL: Shut up! You're talking over the barbershop quartet!

ELEKTRA: I had a great time at the carnival, Matt.

MATT: What carnival? That was Times Square!

ELEKTRA: Wow, Rudy really did clean it up! Too bad about the porno theaters. I'm not unable to indulge my fetish for rooftop sex.

MATT: That's funny, because there's something really cool on the top of the restored gym where I live.

ELEKTRA: All the gym socks you hung out to dry?

MATT: Besides that.

***

SPIDER-GIRL: So, anyway, the reason their relationship worked in the original comics was that it didn't profess to show every moment of their relationship. We could 'fill in the blanks'.

SPIDER-MAN: Just like Anakin and Padme in Attack Of The Clones.

SPIDER-GIRL: Exactly. But here, we're supposed to believe they're soulmates from what amounts to a one-night stand. It just happens too fast. He seems to be solely interested in her for her looks and she for his fighting prowess.

DAREDEVIL: There's a good explanation for that!

SPIDER-GIRL: Really?

DAREDEVIL: Yeah... she's Jennifer Garner

SPIDER-GIRL: By the way, how do mommies and daddies have babies?

SPIDER-MAN: Well, uh, I, err...

SPIDER-GIRL: Just kidding! Future You already told me!

SPIDER-MAN: Great, now I have something to dread.

SPIDER-GIRL: You already have Venom.

SPIDER-MAN: Who?

SPIDER-GIRL: Oh, nothing. Word to the wise: If you see the X-Men, Fantastic Four, Avengers, and Captain America all in the same place, run.

CAPTAIN AMERICA: Somebody call our name?

Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man walk in.

DAREDEVIL: You here to hear about my movie too?

IRON MAN: No, we're just here for the service.

CAPTAIN AMERICA: I can't get into moving pictures. I prefer a good book.

THOR: And the son of Odin doth misunderstand thy 'books'. His prowess lies in yonder papyrus scrolls!

DAREDEVIL: Right. Anyway, where was I?

***

Daredevil is swinging through the city, carrying Elektra in one arm.

DAREDEVIL: Can you read my mind?

THOR: That be Superman.

PRIEST: I thought you didn't know movies.

CAPTAIN: If some schmuck grabs his hammer and blabs about 'different power levels', you bet he wants to know about it.

THOR: Aye. The Lord of Asgard looks forward with vigor to thy 'rematch'.

DAREDEVIL: Anyhoo...

***

ELEKTRA: Looks like it's going to rain. We'd better go inside.

MATT: Wait. Don't.

ELEKTRA: What, you want the raindrops to give you a 'picture' of me? I thought you could already see, even though you're blind.

MATT: Actually, I just wanted to see you with a white T-shirt soaking wet.

ELEKTRA: I'm not wearing a white T-shirt.

MATT: Who's telling this story? I've never felt this way before. About anyone. Not even Karen Page. Or Heather Glenn. Or... sorry. Anyway, I love you, girl. I want tonight to be special.

WOMAN: Come see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!

ELEKTRA: Aren't you going to save her?

MATT: I would, but SMOOCH!

They're suddenly having sex in Matt's bedroom.

SPIDER-GIRL: Groody!

DAREDEVIL: Is that a good thing?

The foreground blurs and we focus on the fireplace. Then track up to another blazing fireplace. Then sideways to the window, where it's raining heavily. Then back again to Matt and Elektra.

MATT: I swear, that's never happened to me before.

***

SPIDER-MAN: So, you just let some crime go unanswered? What the hell kind of superhero are you?

CAPTAIN AMERICA: He's right. Avengers By-Law 017-F, Paragraph-C, CLEARLY states that to be a superhero, each prospective superhero must abandon significant other to avert crime or other crisis.

DAREDEVIL: Yeah? Well, we did it. So there.

SPIDER-MAN: Fine. Move on.

DAREDEVIL: Okay...







DAREDEVIL: She gave me head.

SPIDER-MAN: Stop lying and get on with the story!

DAREDEVIL: Okay. In a wacky turn of events, it turns out that the woman was raped. And that the rapist was none other then Jose Quesada (and how do you like us 'honoring' someone by naming a rapist after him?), who I would kill for the selfsame crime.

SPIDER-MAN: But that makes no SENSE!

DAREDEVIL: Does it? Watch Big Fish and get back to me.

SPIDER-GIRL: Dad, your rival sucks.

SPIDER-MAN: Now, now. Don't say that until you've read something by Frank Miller. Or Brian Michael Bendis.

SPIDER-GIRL: I've read Sin City and Jinx and Daredevil STILL sucks.

SPIDER-MAN: I meant one of their works on Daredevil.

SPIDER-GIRL: Ah. By the way, what's a clitoris?

Spider-Man does a Rodney Dangerfield tug on his collar.

SPIDER-MAN: Humina humina humina...

DAREDEVIL: Hell if I know, kid.




DAREDEVIL: She swallowed.

SPIDER-MAN: STOP THAT!

 

[Zev]

By the way Quentin...

Saying they should have made a MwF movie is what everyone who hasn't read up on his DD says they should have done for a first film when the mini-series contradicts the original and also is only a mediocre DD story.

Suck it down.

Quentin admitted MWF violated continuity, Quentin admitted MWF violated continuity...

 

[Nightwing: Endgame]

Originally posted by Zev
Well, you sure put me in my place.

well i was putting it lightly, you are an assh0le who everyone cannot stand, i havent read one thread that you have posted something and havent pissed everyone off. You dont see the VALUE of one's opinion. EVERY person sees things differently. Not everyone says things your retarted phucked up way. To be frank and to sum you up in one word. TROLL... you and BKB111 are TROLLS.

Get a life and realize that comics and superheroes arent life man.
(unless you work for a comic company, which you CLEARLY dont have the intelligence to.)

 

[Quentin Black]

Originally posted by Zev
Elektra's trained at tracking people? Do they throw that in at self-defense training? I would also like to know how many self-defense courses train you to use in sais. Making this even more ridiculous is that the Elektra spin-off is going to have Stick and the Hand.

Bullseye and Kingpin WERE already introduced prior to the Elektra Saga. As were Daredevil, Foggy, etc. Sure, they were fleshed out, but that's because of Frank Miller's skills as a writer, not because of an essential need to be linked to Elektra. Kingpin's wife 'dying' and him becoming the Kingpin of Crime once again barely had anything to do with Elektra. In fact, Frank Miller's first Bullseye issue DIDN'T EVEN FEATURE ELEKTRA!

If MSJ really wanted to do the Elektra Saga justice, the first Daredevil movie wouldn't even have featured her.

The Elektra Saga was 14 issues (not counting her resurrection), over a year's worth of comics. It featured things like Elektra being an assassin, Elektra becoming Kingpin's right-hand man (replacing Bullseye), and Kingpin's wife. How this had anything to do with what we GOT in the movie is anyone's guess. I keep thinking MSJ was very drowsy when he heard about the Elektra saga.

"So, Elektra's father was killed, driving her to be this kung-fu assassin..."

MSJ falls asleep, then awakes with a start.

"So then he went after Daredevil, but couldn't kill him because he was her love, Matt Murdock, and then Bullseye killed her."

Hmmm, if the new Catwoman movie is CINO (Catwoman In Name Only), that must make Daredevil Elektra Saga In Name Only (ESINO). Glad we've got that cleared up.

She hasn't done a self defense course. She's trained with different masters. Do you even follow films or are you just stupid? Wait...I already know the answer.

You really are clueless aren't you. Firstly I never claimed Bullseye was introduced during the saga. Secondly Kingpin did not appear in Daredevil before the saga. He only appeared as a B villian in Spiderman. Frank Miller's first ever DD was 168, the appearance of Elektra and he introduced Kingpin and brought in Bullseye midway through the saga to play the characters off each other up until issue 181, when Bullseye kills Elektra. This is the primary section that the film portrays. Learn to do you research. That way you prevent making yourself look like an idiot next time.

Yes because the Elektra saga really works without Elektra

You must have not read the saga considering that if you did you would know that there is no underlying specific story to be portrayed since it is more about DD and his relationship with Elektra and how the four characters of Daredevil, Elektra, Kingpin and Bullseye play off each other. No one is going to adapt individual issues and the film worked well in showing the main points of how Elektra had an effect in Matt Murdock's life as well as how the characters played off each other. Please stop pretending to know what you're going on about since it is clear you don't have an clue in hell.

Let me ask you don't you get tired of trolling making nitpick after nitpick, criticisms that show to anyone with a few brain cells how little you understood about the film, claims of how unfaithful the film is which just shows how little you understand the comics, grasping at straws at making much ado about very inconsequential things. I have proven every point of yours wrong with information from the comics and just general knowledge yet you still come back for more. This is why idiots are so hard to argue against.

 

[Nightwing: Endgame]

well Quentin Black as I said he is a TROLL

 

[Quentin Black]

Originally posted by Zev
By the way Quentin...



Suck it down.

Quentin admitted MWF violated continuity, Quentin admitted MWF violated continuity...

I guess I should add 'reading comprehension' to the long list of things you can't seem to do.

I always said there were parts, primarily the portrayal of Elektra, which contradict continuity and therefore would make an unsuitable introduction movie. However it's addition to continuity is undeniable, especially the depth added to Matt's character through his actions in it. Nothing in that post or an of my other posts goes against what I've always said.

"gives a bit off insight in to what makes Matt tick"

Do you enjoy taking potshots where you can...? It only makes you look like and idiot considering your lack of comprehension of even the most basic things.

 

[Nightwing: Endgame]

Ok, Quentin.. im trying to get you to understand he DOESNT think the same way you or I do...he's a lil arrogant piece of sh1t troll
NO MATTER what you say, he wont realize he was/is wrong

 

[Quentin Black]

That's the problem. I have an undeniable urge to correct incorrect posts by not so intelligent people as I don't like people to carry on with incorrect knowledge. Yes, I should learn to ignore stupid posts...

 

[Nightwing: Endgame]

i know, im The SAME way man... i also HATE when people FLAME others for their opinions.. that really pisses me off

 

[Herr Logan]

Zev, have you read any "Twisted Toyfare Theater"? That's right up your alley. Rock on, Zev.

 

[Zev]

Originally posted by RaginCajun
well i was putting it lightly, you are an assh0le who everyone cannot stand, i havent read one thread that you have posted something and havent pissed everyone off. You dont see the VALUE of one's opinion. EVERY person sees things differently. Not everyone says things your retarted phucked up way. To be frank and to sum you up in one word. TROLL... you and BKB111 are TROLLS.

Get a life and realize that comics and superheroes arent life man.
(unless you work for a comic company, which you CLEARLY dont have the intelligence to.)

Well, I guess the above was one of the multitude I have pissed off. Jesus, Quentin, I keep racking up public support and your own friends are goons like this. Must be disheartening. Oh, well, you always have Daredevil for company.

And RaginCajun, let me put this in small words so you can understand. Go *****e your mangina.

 

[Nightwing: Endgame]

excuse me?? small words.I have a 3.5 gpa thank you very much and a steady girlfriend of 3 years, more than you can say you c0cksmoker...so let me put this in terms YOU can understand
You are a phuckin fagg0t with no life,you are a troll,your probably a little highschool, probably still a virgin...guys dont count Zev sorry. you probably whack off to Comic Book chicks,to make a long story short Eat a C0ck Fagg0t and go away No one likes You

 

[Quentin Black]

Originally posted by Zev
Well, I guess the above was one of the multitude I have pissed off. Jesus, Quentin, I keep racking up public support and your own friends are goons like this. Must be disheartening. Oh, well, you always have Daredevil for company.

And RaginCajun, let me put this in small words so you can understand. Go *****e your mangina.

Wow, no more weak nitpicks or grasping at straws? I guess getting shown how your points are incorrect time and time again must get pretty embarassing.

Oh woe is me, two people agreed with you despite both of them not having a clue about the comics or things like forensics or law either. Sadly I'm a bit too intelligent to discussions as a popularity contest as if we were in some American high school. I also have to much of a life to care whether strangers I will never meet think I'm wrong or right since at the end of it I know I'm right, you're wrong and I'm smarter than you.

 

[Zev]

Originally posted by RaginCajun
excuse me?? small words.I have a 3.5 gpa thank you very much and a steady girlfriend of 3 years, more than you can say you c0cksmoker...so let me put this in terms YOU can understand
You are a phuckin fagg0t with no life,you are a troll,your probably a little highschool, probably still a virgin...guys dont count Zev sorry. you probably whack off to Comic Book chicks,to make a long story short Eat a C0ck Fagg0t and go away No one likes You

Quentin, you can tell a lot about a man by the company he keeps. Take RaginCajun for example. He apparently thinks that attacking one's sexual preference is the highest form of insult, instead of a signed admission of homophobia. He does not know how to capitalize, nor the rules of syntax or grammar.

Go to the Catwoman forum. One extremely intelligent poster, A1Ant, thinks Catwoman is going to be good. However, his fellow supporters defend it exclusively with statements like 'u r gay' and 'Halle is haut'. So what is someone supposed to think when they see that the entire defense of Daredevil consists of one snotty punk and a homophobic infant with the mouth of a ******ed teamster?

I only see it as a version of his origin, much like Ultimate DD and Elektra or Daredevil Yellow, different views of the same story making his origin legendary. It's however doesn't work as the sole basis for his origin.

You keep saying Daredevil killed in the comics. He didn't. It's like Spider-Man strapping on an M-60 and mowing down the Green Goblin.

The Crow 'homage'. Since when does a hero, who tries to keep himself in the dark like an 'urban legend', leave ^_^^_^^_^^_^ like this? MSJ admitted on the commentary track that he only put it in there because it 'looked cool'. Congrats, The Crow, your style has triumphed over Daredevil's substance.

The nu-metal in Elektra's already stupid training scene. In a dark, noir-like film (supposedly), why is Evanescense playing? It dates the film, makes it feel like pandering to the MTV crowd (which it is), and generally sucks. You don't play the Pet Shop Boys during Bogart movies, do you?

The contrast between the 'dark and gritty' human hero and the over-the-top, Spider-Man wannabe fight scenes (which are riff with so much darkness and jump-cuts you can't tell what's going on).

Elektra nothing at all like her comics counterpart. Not even a Greek accent. The costume is completely different, the story is completely different.

The Coolio subplot left on the cutting room floor. I'd much rather have that in its place in the Kingpin Vs. Daredevil plot then the business of Elektra crammed into a two-hour movie (that already has to deal with Bullseye, Kingpin, Daredevil, Matt Murdock, Jack Murdock, Foggy, Ben Urich, etc).

The crappy effects.

The leather costumes.

Everyone being able to hurdle tall buildings despite having no superpowers. (for another example of a crappy movie where a non-superpowered hero gets superpowers from the studio, see Catwoman)

The horrid music.

The 48 hours love story.

The stupidity of Daredevil (who earlier was a realisticly pill-popping hero), pulling a sai out of his chest, dodging ALL of Bullseye's stained glass shards from three feet away in a straight line, and then going on to fight Kingpin and WIN (go read Born Again. He did the exact same thing in a similar state and LOST.)

The coda, which is ripped-off from Batman Returns.

The overly showy fight scene between Matt and the bullies.

Elektra, DD, and Bullseye all finding each other on the same roof.

Bullseye being called from Ireland to take out ECLF.

Daredevil leaving his mask at Kingpin's pad (only for an arty shot of his mask and the rose petals. Hope no one sees you on your way home, Matt!).

Kingpin killed Daredevil's father. Rip-off of Batman and stupid. What, Daredevil didn't have enough reasons to go after Kingpin? Guess what, Matt? He also raped your sister, shot your dog, took your job, peed in your pool, burned your house down, hooked your nephew on drugs, and stole your Bible!

Matt staying with Elektra instead of going to fight crime. MSJ admitted that this was due to studio interference, yet Quentin Black still defends it? Why?

RaginCajun thinking I'm a troll that no one likes. Go over here and tell me that again, loser.

Quentin Black thinking he's smarter then everyone else, not realizing that being intelligent and liking Daredevil is mutually exclusive.

 

[Nightwing: Endgame]

Originally posted by Zev
Quentin, you can tell a lot about a man by the company he keeps. Take RaginCajun for example. He apparently thinks that attacking one's sexual preference is the highest form of insult, instead of a signed admission of homophobia. He does not know how to capitalize, nor the rules of syntax or grammar.

Go to the Catwoman forum. One extremely intelligent poster, A1Ant, thinks Catwoman is going to be good. However, his fellow supporters defend it exclusively with statements like 'u r gay' and 'Halle is haut'. So what is someone supposed to think when they see that the entire defense of Daredevil consists of one snotty punk and a homophobic infant with the mouth of a ******ed teamster?

OK you assh0le... I've had enough of this childish sh1t..Get a phuckin life you loser. Why dont you just piss off and go away NO ONE likes you. Why are you here ? Why do you respond ? Just go away You are a scum sucking *****ebag who probably beats off to comic and wrestling chicks, you SERIOUSLY need a hobbie man. Get a girlfriend. Or a guy...whichever you prefer.

 

[Zev]

*Deep breath*

I'm exhausted. I think I'll let Quentin handle the next few.

It was Butchered by the FOX editors.

They should have used Parkour instead of CGI.

It should have been longer.

A few misplaced bits of dialogue.

FOX should have given more freedom to MSJ.

Thanks Quentin. Now then, where was I?

Young Matt backflips and kicks a bully.

Playground fight. This is the gritty, realistic superhero movie?

Wire-fu. "It worked for the Matrix and it'll work for us!' No, it won't.

Matt's a failure as a superhero. He can't save Elektra and can't save ECLF. He barely defeats the rapist, Bullseye, and Kingpin. Spider-Man was basically undefeated in his movie, so when the Green Goblin came along, it was a big deal. Daredevil always relies on some last minute Deus Ex Machina (the sprinkler system, the sniper, suddenly recovering from the subway train).

Matt gets out of his sense-deprivation tank and immediately turns on some crappy grunge rock or something at full blast.

Matt prosecutes.

Bullseye able to impale ECLF with Daredevil's baton from some distance away.

Daredevil then able to use a second(?) baton to escape from Elektra.

Daredevil shows up at Ben Urich's workplace for some reason. Ben Urich says 'Go get 'im Matt'. Cheesy... as... hell.

Matt teaches himself kung-fu. If ever a movie REALLY needed Stick...

Needs some mythical R-rated Director's Cut to become a good movie. No. Director's Cuts should make good movies BETTER or offer an alternate perspective. They should not make someone pay twice to get the movie they should've gotten in the first place.

 

[Nightwing: Endgame]

ZEV i hate 2 say it but you have a COUPLE of decent points about Daredevil, i didnt care 4 the movie much, but you do have SOME valid points

 

[Zev]

Originally posted by RaginCajun
OK you assh0le... I've had enough of this childish sh1t..Get a phuckin life you loser. Why dont you just piss off and go away NO ONE likes you. Why are you here ? Why do you respond ? Just go away You are a scum sucking *****ebag who probably beats off to comic and wrestling chicks, you SERIOUSLY need a hobbie man. Get a girlfriend. Or a guy...whichever you prefer.

Hey, RaginCajun? Your foul-mouthed little brother got on the computer while you were away. Tell him he's missing Yu-Gi-Oh.

 

[Zev]

Originally posted by RaginCajun
ZEV i hate 2 say it but you have a COUPLE of decent points about Daredevil, i didnt care 4 the movie much, but you do have SOME valid points

Congratulations. You're a bigger man then Quentin "I see NUTHING wrong with Daredevil. NUTHING!" Black.

 

[Nightwing: Endgame]

Originally posted by Zev
Congratulations. You're a bigger man then Quentin "I see NUTHING wrong with Daredevil. NUTHING!" Black.

was watchable..someone bought it for me as a bday gift..i watched it once and i havent looked @ it since...it COULD have been really good. But it was ehhh not so good

 

[Quentin Black]

Wow, you really are so pathetic you do seem to think it is a popularity contest. I don't care who supports me or not or whther they can make a decent arguement or not. You evidently can't but you disguise it with nitpicks, crude potshots and nonexistant problems or problems that all the other films have.

You don't seem to be able to read. DD has killed in the comics. The death of fixer alone is murder two.

Films are there to visually entertain and the test audience all thought it was great symbolically. That is the only reason why MSJ kept it in.

I personally thought it made nice accompanying piece of music. You don't seem to know your music either since it isn't 'nu-metal'. I see Fight Club, Matrix, Blade and all those other movies must be terrible since they used the music of the time too.

You'd have to be stupid...(sorry, I keep forgetting who I'm talking to, you are stupid) to not be able to follow the fight scenes. They were nothing like Spideys since they actually contained violence and *shock horror* punches. They weren't also watered down for little kids.

The costume was different but you forgot to mention the most important thing the character, was spot on. Where as most of the other comic films the characters (Especially Spidey) weren't even close.

Yes it was rushed (thanks to the studios) but is still a lot more faithful and still works as a film.

Yes, crappy effects have applied to Spidey, Blade, Hulk...so they're terrible aren't they . Unlike Spidey and Hulk DD's success didn't depend on CGI.

Yes, shocking costumes despite the fact that X-men changed the costumes even more drastically. That must be terrible too

Firstly they explain this. Secondly it happens all the time in the comics, as I have already told you. Did you actually do any reading comprehension when you were at school?

I liked the music and although I apreciate it is not to everyone's taste everybody uses as a pivot for their arguements when they probably only remember two songs.

They, like many movies, never actually make a clear time line. Your 48 hour timeline is out.

Elderly women in real life have lifted vans to save their husbands in accidents. That is the power of adrenaline. If you don't believe me search for "Donna Stilwell" or go here for Mrs. Rateb's story. Go and read Hardcore. He does a similar thing and WINS.

Yes, despite the fact that it is a part of the comics a decade or two before Batman Returns.

Apart from the shaky effects I don't see the problem.

A trained assasin who's job is to find and kill two people, a person with supersenses who is looking for someone and trained fighter who has trained with various different masters. They don't even arrive at the same time. Don't you get tired of nitpicking?

Follow the story. He got called from England. He's obviously one of the best so I don't see the problem with Kingpin calling him. It's not like he can't afford it. You're grasping again.

You seemed to have missed the point of the matter (as you do with most things). He has no fear of Kingpin, it's not like he has to protect his identity from him either. He's going to be bounding on the rooftops so I dubt anyone will see him. It's not as worse as a civilan Peter Parker bounding from building to building and swinging overhead in broad daylight.

Wow, just to show how weak your point is you have to exaggerate. Good one As a pretender I'm not surprised you don't understand how important and personal it makes their relationship and the extra dimensions it adds to it. With only knowing he killed Elektra he would not have had so much drive and it would have been a completely different inferior film.

Actually it was approved of by MSJ. It makes the character more human and unlike most of the other comic films, is inkeeping with the character. He is not the perfect hero and follows his heart.

Again, how pathetic...Zev - ooo, I'm liked by complete stangers because I can make really bad spoofs of scripts.

Wow, you do it every post. Try to disguise the little that you know with nitpicks, crude potshots and nonexistant problems or problems that all the other films have. It's pretty clear that you don't even like the comics. So why don't you stop trolling when you didn't like the concept in the first place?

I don't think I'm smarter than everyone else. If you can't even follow simple text is it no wonder I think what I do? I said I know I'm smarter than you.

 

[Quentin Black]

Originally posted by Zev
Congratulations. You're a bigger man then Quentin "I see NUTHING wrong with Daredevil. NUTHING!" Black.

Actually as you have show a few posts before hand I have never claimed the film to be flawless. It's just vastly better than the other comic films.

 

[Quentin Black]

More nitpicks? Wow, you are on a roll

We've been over this.

A scene that is in keeping with the comicy and flirty tone of the lighter side of the comics and how Matt and Elektra first met. More inconspicuous than a weakling sending a guy twenty foot backwards with a crowd of teens around them.

Erm, this is exactly how he is in the comics. Oh wait you're just a pretender who can only nitpick non existant problems. If you want Mr.invincible for kids go and watch another comic film.

Better than listening to street sounds or other peoples conversations. Again you show how little you know about music.

Yes, he does, just like lawyers do in real life and he does...in the comics!

Hmm, just like he does in the comics. It's a comic film, what do you expect? I guess we should all complain that the theory behind drastic mutations isn't actually true or the fact that radiation doesn't give you powers or the fact that organic webbing would theoretically come out through his ass

The guy has two, one for throwing and one for grappling. The actual way his club functions is unclear but who actual cares? Nitpicking is weak.

It could get cheesier such as..."This is my curse, this is my responsibility, I'm Spiderman!" Spidey says in a golden sunset with the American flag in the foreground.

Ever heard of Bruce Lee?

Nope it's very good as it is.

 

[Mastermold]

I will never figure out for the life of me why so many people hate Daredevil. I don't feel like arguing about it, but that movie was awesome...my only real complaint was that it was too short.

 

[Zev]

Originally posted by Quentin Black

You don't seem to be able to read. DD has killed in the comics. The death of fixer alone is murder two.

Have you checked the polls? 85% think that the Fixer's death WASN'T murder.

Films are there to visually entertain and the test audience all thought it was great symbolically. That is the only reason why MSJ kept it in.

If the test audience all jumped off a bridge, would you? Next thing you know, Daredevil will be carving DDs into people's chests and having a Dare-Signal.



I personally thought it made nice accompanying piece of music. You don't seem to know your music either since it isn't 'nu-metal'. I see Fight Club, Matrix, Blade and all those other movies must be terrible since they used the music of the time too.

Those were all made by people who were actually TALENTED. Daredevil is supposed to be a hardcore noir movie, why do we have a crappy music video? You would defend the Vengaboys' "We Love To Party" playing during the Kingpin fight.

You'd have to be stupid...(sorry, I keep forgetting who I'm talking to, you are stupid) to not be able to follow the fight scenes. They were nothing like Spideys since they actually contained violence and *shock horror* punches. They weren't also watered down for little kids.


One of these things, is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong...

A. "Was that really necessary?"
"Necessary? No. It was fun."

B. "Another rapist loose on the streets."

C. "Does every guy have to go through this to get your name?"
"You should try asking for my number!"


The costume was different but you forgot to mention the most important thing the character, was spot on. Where as most of the other comic films the characters (Especially Spidey) weren't even close.


Yes, because in the comics Daredevil was a leather-clad vigilante who killed people in cold blood and let crimes be committed so he could get lucky. And Elektra was an adult, American daughter of a mob boss who dressed in black leather to get revenge on Daredevil.


Yes it was rushed (thanks to the studios) but is still a lot more faithful and still works as a film.


I get the feeling you'd really love Armageddon.



Yes, crappy effects have applied to Spidey, Blade, Hulk...so they're terrible aren't they . Unlike Spidey and Hulk DD's success didn't depend on CGI.


Those weren't supposed to be 'realistic' movies. Aside from Hulk, which also sucked, Spider-Man and Blade were supposed to be fun movies. Daredevil was supposed to be a serious, somber look at a real superhero, yet it had lots of wire-fu and CGI.

Yes, shocking costumes despite the fact that X-men changed the costumes even more drastically. That must be terrible too


Give me a break. At most, Elektra and Daredevil have had TWO (three if you count Daredevil's armored phase) costumes, but we all know the most memorable ones.

Go here and name for me the definitive costumes of the X-Men. Check under costume galleries.


Firstly they explain this. Secondly it happens all the time in the comics, as I have already told you. Did you actually do any reading comprehension when you were at school?


I'm sorry, I don't know what you were talking about since you didn't quote me. Oh wait, I see now, you're talking about nonsuperpowered people jumping from building to building and in general acting like they're auditioning for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. In a 'realistic' movie.


I liked the music and although I apreciate it is not to everyone's taste everybody uses as a pivot for their arguements when they probably only remember two songs.


I remember four songs. Kingpin's 'Dirty Dog' song, Bullseye's 'Top O' The Mornin' To Ya' song, Matt turning on his radio (if the outside noises bother him so much, why not soundproof his apartment? Sure, it won't mute everything, but it will at least dull it to a managable level), and Elektra's training. They all ruined the mood, just like the playground fight.



They, like many movies, never actually make a clear time line. Your 48 hour timeline is out.



The only meetings we see between Matt is the inital encounter, the rooftop date, and the party. Given that this was supposed to be interlaced with Coolio's subplot, the timeline couldn't have been over a few months.

Elderly women in real life have lifted vans to save their husbands in accidents. That is the power of adrenaline. If you don't believe me search for "Donna Stilwell" or go here for Mrs. Rateb's story. Go and read Hardcore. He does a similar thing and WINS.

If you don't see a difference between recovering from an attack from Typhoid Mary for a length of time, then bloodlessly beating Bullseye and going after Kingpin.

AND fighting Elektra (he gets stabbed with a sai), fighting Bullseye (loses so much blood he can't even hold on to his baton, racketed by loud noises, beaten up tons,) and then having the energy to swing around town (surely corporate juggernaut Kingpin doesn't have his lair anywhere NEAR Hell's Kitchen) and beat a seven-foot-tall bruiser.

Well, I don't know what we're talking about. Funny that adrenaline didn't come into play when he saw his girlfriend in mortal danger.


Yes, despite the fact that it is a part of the comics a decade or two before Batman Returns.


NO, it wasn't. Do you remember the issue where Matt dug up Elektra's grave and saw she was IRREVOCABLY dead? She was brought back to life a lot later. There was NO indication in the original Elektra Saga that Elektra was still alive.

Apart from the shaky effects I don't see the problem.


He taught himself kung-fu, used his cane as a kendo stick, and did a goddamn flip kick and you see NOTHING wrong with this? People as stupid as you shouldn't be allowed to breed.

A trained assasin who's job is to find and kill two people, a person with supersenses who is looking for someone and trained fighter who has trained with various different masters. They don't even arrive at the same time. Don't you get tired of nitpicking?


I can accept TWO people meeting, but three? And Bullseye is looking for Elektra on the rooftops why? And Elektra is able to hide from Daredevil by TAKING COVER BEHIND SHEETS? The man with supersenses? Jesus.


Follow the story. He got called from England. He's obviously one of the best so I don't see the problem with Kingpin calling him. It's not like he can't afford it. You're grasping again.


Hey, I'm hungry, I'm sure I could afford to order a steak tartar, but that doesn't mean I have to when a ham sandwich will do.


You seemed to have missed the point of the matter (as you do with most things). He has no fear of Kingpin, it's not like he has to protect his identity from him either. He's going to be bounding on the rooftops so I dubt anyone will see him. It's not as worse as a civilan Peter Parker bounding from building to building and swinging overhead in broad daylight.


"It's not as worse"? Peter was overcome with euphoria at discovering his powers. Daredevil was supposed to be calm and cool. Why would he leave his mask?


Wow, just to show how weak your point is you have to exaggerate. Good one As a pretender I'm not surprised you don't understand how important and personal it makes their relationship and the extra dimensions it adds to it. With only knowing he killed Elektra he would not have had so much drive and it would have been a completely different inferior film
.

Daredevil doesn't need any help to be an inferior film. It's called satire, I thought I already explained it to you but obviously you're a slow learner. And exactly what difference does learning that Kingpin killed Jack Murdock make?

"You killed the only two people I ever loved!"

Oh, that and the revelation that Kingpin wasn't BORN a powerful crime lord. It adds SO much.


Actually it was approved of by MSJ. It makes the character more human and unlike most of the other comic films, is inkeeping with the character. He is not the perfect hero and follows his heart.

That wasn't his HEART he was following...


Again, how pathetic...Zev - ooo, I'm liked by complete stangers because I can make really bad spoofs of scripts.


I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to someone who made the gross exaggeration that I was disliked by EVERYONE.


Wow, you do it every post. Try to disguise the little that you know with nitpicks, crude potshots and nonexistant problems or problems that all the other films have. It's pretty clear that you don't even like the comics. So why don't you stop trolling when you didn't like the concept in the first place?

I don't think I'm smarter than everyone else. If you can't even follow simple text is it no wonder I think what I do? I said I know I'm smarter than you.

You wanna go? We'll open up a poster vs. poster poll and vote on it. I'm ready when you are.

And you do claim the film is flawless. You have not acknowledged a single flaw in the film. It's always "it wasn't so bad" or "that's subjective". You defend on EVERY GODDAMN POINT.

Peter didn't know his own strength. Matt knew exactly what he was doing.

The scene in Spider-Man wasn't subtle, but it wasn't supposed to be. It fit perfectly with the movie. And at least Spider-Man kept the MTV tie-in music where it belonged... in the closing credits.

Bruce Lee.

1954-1957

Studied Wing Chun under the instruction of Yip Man. Learned as far as the second hand form and part of the wooden dummy form. Didn't finish the wooden dummy form, learn the third hand form or weapons forms. With Wong Sheun-Leung, William Cheung, and others, made Wing Chun famous in Hong Kong by winning numerous challenge matches against other martial artists.

1957-1958

Continued Wing Chun under the instruction of Wong Shun-Leung.

1957-1959

Continued Wing Chun under the instruction of William Cheung.

He made up his own form, Jeet Kune Do, on a basis of instruction he had already received. He didn't 'teach himself' anything.

That's your opinion. And it's wrong.