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I agree. Such a mistake is nigh unforgivable.

iceberg325 said:I hear alot of wow hate. Whats wrong with it????
stryfe said:Thats a long road to travel and im not even sure where to start. Just off the top of my head......
1) it seems 90% of the players are under 13 years old.
2) Because of said reason the community sucks ass.
3) PvP sucks.
4) The missions are beyond dull.
5) Even the instances arent very fun.
6) The crafting system is a joke.
7) Getting to 60 is generally very easy. This actually turns into a positive when.....
8) Theres nothing to do once you reach 60 besides a few very uninteresting end games instances. How is this is positive you ask? Shorty after this point you cancel.
I think wow is a great game because its highly accessible. It doesnt take over your life like some mmos although it can become highly addictive. The game is constantly being updated, and there is new content all the time. Great game IMO. It can be a bit laggy in high traffic areas which sucks. Out of all the mmos ive played, this is the best one.

stryfe said:Thats a long road to travel and im not even sure where to start. Just off the top of my head......
1) it seems 90% of the players are under 13 years old.
This isn't true at all. In fact, most people I've played with, and I've played since day one, are at least 16.
2) Because of said reason the community sucks ass.
Look above
3) PvP sucks.
The PvP isn't as bad as everyone says. I've played many a MMO, and the PvP BG system is one of the best
4) The missions are beyond dull.
What MMO doesn't have boring quests?
5) Even the instances arent very fun.
Thats probably because you only got to do The Deadmines and you got wiped before you kill the ogre then you ragequit your account
6) The crafting system is a joke.
It's not much different from other games. Though most of the itembased ones end up being just a huge faction rep grind, not that you would know about that or anything
7) Getting to 60 is generally very easy. This actually turns into a positive when.....
It's not easy to get to 60. It's simply easier than all the other MMO's out ther
8) Theres nothing to do once you reach 60 besides a few very uninteresting end games instances. How is this is positive you ask? Shorty after this point you cancel.
This is where you're oh so wrong. There are a ton of endgame raids. Now granted, it's really only for the hardcore (Friend of mine is a guildleader, they raid mon-thurs 5pm-2am and Fri/Sat 5pm - 4am. More than a fulltime job)
Extromaniac said:I'll reply to your response out of boredom.
1) You're actually right, the median age for players in WoW is about 26. This doesn't stop them from acting like 13 year olds, though.
2) Look above, the fact is that most of the people on WoW are gankers and not very helpful at all, because they act like they're 13. This makes for a bad community. Also, Unlike Mythic (making WAR, made DAoC) Blizzard doesn't do much in the way of keeping in touch with the community on a person-to-person basis. Hell, I'm playing in a Fantasy Football League with Richard (from Mythic) who set it up for a few of us over at WHA. THAT'S a real community-oriented developer.
3) Actually, the PvP is bad as most people say. Instead of having item grinds in PvP.. you have honour grinds. You sit there are grind for honour, the whole game's a grind. And on top of that, you have to get your 'epix' before you can even be competitive with the other end-gamers.
4) DAoC had some good ones. As far as I know from playing the trial, that is.
5) No, the instances are boring. Any instance that requires you to have an ub3r guild, with a bunch of L337 kids who you hate.. sucks. 40-man raids for 4+ hours is not, by any definition of the word, fun
6) Actually, it is different than a lot of other games crafting systems. The items you get from crafting are absolutely WORTHLESS compared to what you get when you're doing said 40-man raids.
7) You're right, I don't have a problem with this. First time. Wowza.
8) Yes, it is really only for the hardcore. How is this interesting? Being glued to your computer for many, many hours at a time just trying to raid for some new ub3r weapon that Blizzard coughed up. Yes. This is fun, oh so fun.
I hate WOW because you hafta pay for it & people go too NUTS over it...
Wake the F*** UP it's a computer game

WOW isn't the first MMO I played, and I do think there are flaws in this game. However, I play it because it's still fun, doesn't take over my life like other MMO, and most importantly there are friends and family who are playing that game, which gives me the incentive to keep playing so I can socialize with them. Yes, WOW is a huge grind and far too gear-dependent, and from my limited time play WAR I think it's a superior game than WOW. But I still play WOW because I like to play with people I know, and I'm very interested to see what the next expansion will offer in terms of new content and fun factor.