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I found these plot summaries for "The Dark Knight" on imdb. It sounds pretty good to me, I hope it's accurate. What do you think?:

Plot Summary for
The Dark Knight (2008)


Batman, Lt.Jim Gordon and D.A. Harvey Dent team up in an effort to stop the villainous Joker, a theatrical serial killer who lives for the sole purpose of causing harm to the citizens of Gotham, as well as The Dark knight. At the same time, Batman begins to uncover more of the corruption that is plaguing Gotham City, with the arrival of crime boss Salvatore Maroni.
Summary written by Anonymous
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Crime Boss Salvatore Maroni and Roman Sionis(Black Mask) are in arms deal with one of Gotham's richest men, Oswald Cobblepot (The Penguin).The Penguin works with William Earle, a man who wants revenge on Bruce Wayne for firing him.Batman with help of Lt. James Gordon and New DA Harvey Dent battle for justice but only makes matters worse with arrival of The Clown Prince of Crime, The Joker.The Joker is a brutal serial killer who murders for fun. So Batman, Jim Gordon & Harvey Dent must save Gotham from the Joker's reign of terror and death.
Summary written by aj_mr_movies1012
 
Its IMDB... No more needs to be said.
 
Yup. Might as well had said Rambo wrote it himself.

IMDB is really untrustworthy.
 
ChrisBaleBatman said:
Yup. Might as well had said Rambo wrote it himself.

IMDB is really untrustworthy.

Really? That's too bad, because it sounded really good. Anyway, thanks for filling me in.
 
That's all conjecture based on past BOF reports.
 
With everything that we know about "The Dark Knight" (The actors playing the characters, the characters that will be in it, etc.), what do you think would make the best plot. Write your own story the way that you would like to see it. It could be long or short. :batman:
 
I think it would be awesome if the first hour of the movie followed Batman as he foils one of Joker's nefarious schemes. This first hour would be action filled and hint that the Batman and Joker have a developed history in the time between "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight". The first hour ends with the apprehension of the Joker by Batman.

Fast forward 2 years as we enter the second hour of the movie. The Joker makes his escape from Arkham and sets about extracting revenge on Batman (events as depicted in Alan Moore's "The Killing Joke").

That movie would kick ass.
 
honestly, dude, tinister, that plot sux...
 
Sal Maroni and Rupert Thorne are struggling over gaining the title of mob cheifton no that Falcone is incompasitated from the scarecrow for the time being. The Joker is a wildcard. He acts out against the mob which in turn causes a mob war. The Joker and the batman have their run ins as well. ROman Sionis will be attacking Bruce in the public light, with Mr. Earl backing him becasue of what wayne did to him. And while Batman/Bruce are under assault, the Joker kills Rachel Dawes sending Bruce into a downward spiral that has him questioning himself and pushes him closer than ever to becoming the very thing that ruined any chance he had for a normal life...a murderer. Oswald "The Penguin" Cobblepot finds it rather proffitable to provide arms to the warring mob factions while notletting the one side know that he is helping his enemy. And an old "friend" pays Batman a visit, to start off the movie.
 
old friend?? Dr Leslie Thompkins perhaps?
 
Kind of like what was said above, only a few differences:

Sal Maroni and Rupert Thorne are vying for control of Falcone's old turf. At first, it looks like it will be evenly split between the two and it will be done peacefully, but then murders happen on both sides.

A mob war breaks out in Gotham City. Meanwhile, there is also a serial killer on the loose calling himself the Joker. Batman has been searching for him for months, but the new mob war has to take prioity because many lives are being lost. Realizing that he can't search for Joker and stop a mob war by himself, he gets Gordon, and the new D.A Dent to help him. They decide that the best way to stop the gang war is by cutting them off from their weapons supplier. Batman goes to find out who is supplying each gang.

Meanwhile, Bruce is so pre-occupied with all the things he has to do as Batman that he almost completely neglects his duties at Wayne Enterprises. Instead of going in to work, he just goes back down to the cave to investigate some more. ALfred starts notcing that when he is in teh cave, he is almost a completely different person, and that persona is starting to show in teh manor as well. Alfred tries to remind Batman that Bruce is just as big a part of his life as Batman is, but Bruce waves him off. Fox is covering for Bruce at the company, but Earle comes back trying to make a hostile takeover of the company with Roman Sionis backing him.

Batman finds out that a british arms dealer named Cobblepot is backing both gangs and thinks that he might've started the gang war by killing people on both sides since he would directly profit from the war. He tracks down Penguin to his base at the docks and goes undercover working there as a new dock hand named "Matches Malone" he sets up listening devices everywhere and eventually finds out that there is going to be a big arms deal made to the Maroni gang. It'll take place in teh one area where no cops go: the Narrows, at the abandoned mental institution: Arkham.

Bats tells this to Dent and Gordon, but both say there is no way Loeb will alllow for police to go there. Dent says that it won't stop him, and Gordon agrees that he will go too, and that he will try and find some honest cops to tag along. Bats shows them a lay out of Arkham and whee they should go. He lets them know that while they won't see him, he'll be there.

At Arkham, we see Harvey, Gordon, and large detective name Bullock, and a young cop named Montoya that looks scarred out of her wits. They enter Arkhamand find the area where the transfer will be made. They wait for the gang and Penguin to show. Penguin finally shows up but instead of Maroni, Thorne shows up instead. Penguin is flustered, but is trying to wave it off when Maroni's gang comes in also. Both gangs are at gunpoint now and there is utter chaos. Penguin is asking Thorne how he knew to come here, Thorne sayign he was invited, Maroni asking Penguin if he was dealing to both gangs and why Penguin invited both gangs. At this last question Penguin looks confused and says he though coming here was Maroni's idea.

At this point we hear laughter echoing throughout the gigantic room. Gunfire erupts and maroni's, thorne's, and penguin's men start to go down. Eventually it stops and Joker walks in. He welcomes the crime lords to his humble abode. He tells them that inviting them all here was his idea. He wants to let them know that while they are fighting over gotham, the Narrows is his turf. He says that since everybody is already crazy from fear gas, that this is practically his Candy Land. And there is no better place than Arkham to be his castle.

At seeing Joker, Dent can't wait any longer and rushes in to arrest the crime lords and the Serial killer. Gordon, Bullock, and Montoya follow and a new fight ensues between the cops, the rest of the mafias men that aren't dead, and the Joker's men. Joker watches on amused at the few cops that are here to arrest them, when Batman crashes through the window to help them out. Joker is instantly angry that Batman had a better entrance than him, and tells his henchman to fall back. Maroni, Penguin, and Joer all manage to escape in different ways witgh some of their men, but Thorne is captured.

Since one of the biggest crime lords was captured, it became a huge bust on all the cops and Dent's parts. Dent was instantly catapulted to fame in Gotham, and vowed that he will bring down Maroni also, and the Joker.

It's now Christmas time and we see that neither Maroni or Joker have been caught. Batman is spending even more time trying to find out who the Joker is and his motives for killing people, but still has no luck. One day, Dent comes home and finds Joker in his living room decorating the tree with his wife Gilda tied up next to him. Dent becomes enraged and attacks the Joker, but Joker just laughs it off and grabs a lamp froma nearby table and starts to get the upper hand in the fight. Joker starts beating Dent mercilessly while singing Christmas Carols. Eventually he stops and Dent is a bloody mess. he asks him one question: Who's Batman? Dent says Joker can rot in hell. Joker just laughs hysterically at this and then walks over to Gilda and smashes the lamp in her face." Who is Batman?" he asks Dent again, and Dent pleads with Joker to stop. He tells him he doesn't know who he is, he just meets with him sometimes. Joker walks over to Dent again looking very angry. "Dammit, you weren't supposed to cave that early! I wanted to have more fun!' At this he hits dent hard and knocks him out.

Dent wakes up in the hospital and sees Gilda (with some stitches on her face) sitting next to him. Dent asks if she's ok and she nods with tears in her eyes. Dent gets extremely angry, and tries getting up, but Gilda just hugs him and doesn't let go until he has calmed down. When he is finally calm, she tells him "He stole all the presents too". dent jsut closes his eyes and hugs her.


* I have a general idea of what happens next, but I am still fleshing it out. I'll post it later*
 
fabman said:
honestly, dude, tinister, that plot sux...

The plot I outlined sets up the movie to utilize the events from "Killing Joke" - probably the best and most cinematic interpretation of the Batman/Joker relationship/struggle. The first half of the movie will ad more action to the movie as the events of the "Killing Joke" story is more drama and not action. I think it's a good balance.

Tim Burton used s few snipplets fo KJ in the 89 movie and they were some of the better moments in that movie.

IMHO - the movies for the most part fail story-wise because they use bits and pieces from the comics -but never an intact story. Killing Joke is perfect for that purpose. If you didn't read the novel, then YES - the plot I mentioned will appear to have no substance.

I propose they use a complete story from the comics instead of coming up with a movie story and then sticking in Batman and characters from Batman's world.
 
tinister said:
I propose they use a complete story from the comics instead of coming up with a movie story and then sticking in Batman and characters from Batman's world.

I propose they don't. I never read TKJ but TLH was full of cliches and movie rip-offs.
 
Hehe. I like this thread. I'll be back later w/ this one.
 
I could see the Joker's backstory showing him as a Mob Lt. for Rupert Thorne or some other mob cheif. He has been doing the dirty work for the mob boss in question for a few weeks leading up to the end of Begins. He has come to enjoy what he does and has earned the nickname Lucas "The Joker" Carlson for the Joker cards he leaves at his crimes scenes. He finally gets a big job with a big payout for him and it could possibly increase his status in the Mob circles. He takes a few of his men to the job which is taking out the owner of a large local business. Batman has caught wind of this and foils the whole thing. It ends up exposing a great deal of the plans of the mob boss in question which in turn makes the mob boss very angry. The mob boss calls Carlson(the Joker) in for a visit. As Carlson comes into the office of the mob boss, the boss' hench men grab Carlson to the floor. The mob boss proceeds to tell Carlson how his failure has extreme consiquences. He informs Carlson that he had his wife "taken care of" as well as the manner in which "it" was done. The mob boss also orders his men to take care of Carlson. The men take Carlson bound and gagged to a near by chemical plant. They take him up to the top catwalk. They say various things to him and proceed to put a burlap sack over his head and push him over the railing. As he tips over, his hand ropes are caught on the railing. He hangs upside down. The one goon walks over and takes a knife out and cuts the rope, sending Carlson down 4 floors down to a chemical vat below. The men proceed to leave. After they do a strange silence falls over inside of the factory. The camera is ground level as it slowly moves toward the vat. All of a sudden there is an eruption from the vat and causes the camera to go black. (Just my thoughts. Just came up with it now so really haven't had time to polish it but I do think personally it could work. As we have heard the Joker acts out against batman and the mob. This is just one way it could be told how and why the Joker dislikes both the mob and Batman. Or he could just be soooo far gone that he doesn't really care. Like I said, just my thoughts.
 
BmAaTn3625 said:
Sal Maroni and Rupert Thorne are struggling over gaining the title of mob cheifton no that Falcone is incompasitated from the scarecrow for the time being. The Joker is a wildcard. He acts out against the mob which in turn causes a mob war. The Joker and the batman have their run ins as well. ROman Sionis will be attacking Bruce in the public light, with Mr. Earl backing him becasue of what wayne did to him. And while Batman/Bruce are under assault, the Joker kills Rachel Dawes sending Bruce into a downward spiral that has him questioning himself and pushes him closer than ever to becoming the very thing that ruined any chance he had for a normal life...a murderer. Oswald "The Penguin" Cobblepot finds it rather proffitable to provide arms to the warring mob factions while notletting the one side know that he is helping his enemy. And an old "friend" pays Batman a visit, to start off the movie.

WOW. That **** would be perfect. By old friend, you mean enemy correct? *Cough* Ra's *Cough*
 
I have written my own script for the squel just for fun and originally had Bruce in the batcave with the suit on and the cowl off looking through various case files on the Joker. He catches something out of the corner of his eye the shines in the darkness he gets up and goes to see and finds a katana sword driven into the rock with note attached. It reads "Your intervention has bought Gotham time, but remember Justice is Balance...(no signature.) I later scraped that part in favor of the scarecrow and Batman facing off to start off the movie.
 
mcflytrap said:
I propose they don't. I never read TKJ but TLH was full of cliches and movie rip-offs.

Oh - you should at least read The Killing Joke once. I'm a long, long time Batman follower and when I read TKJ - it blew me away. It's a really simple and compact story, but it hints at so much happening between Batman & Joker. It kind of puts aside the fact that one is the crimefighter and the other the criminal and digs into them as humans (and they both have issues).

Honestly - I recommend it, mcflytrap - I think you'll dig it.

And the artwork by Brian Bolland is timeless.

BTW: What's TLH? I've trying to figure out what that's short for. Probably is obvious, but I can't nail it.
 
tinister said:
BTW: What's TLH? I've trying to figure out what that's short for. Probably is obvious, but I can't nail it.

TLH= The Long Halloween
 
basic plot points

Bruce Wayne vs buisiness rival(Black Mask?)
Joker double crosses Penguin and Moroni in attempt to eliminate competitionl
Joker kills Loeb
Gordon becomes commishiner
Dent is suspected to be the Batman
Joker tries to kidnap Dent,finds Rachael,kidnaps her
Batman vs the Joker climax at an old abandoned amusement park( Killing Joke)
Batman and Dent want to kill the Joker after he cripples /kills Rachael
 
kytrigger said:
TLH= The Long Halloween

Oh, yeah! I didn't like The Long Halloween either.

There's certain things that Batman fans expect from a Batman story. But it's a fine balance to keep the story consistant with this expectation, but not be cliche.

Which brings us back to TKJ. It strikes that balance almost perfectly. hehe
 
Spider-Kurt! said:
basic plot points

Bruce Wayne vs buisiness rival(Black Mask?)
Joker double crosses Penguin and Moroni in attempt to eliminate competitionl
Joker kills Loeb
Gordon becomes commishiner
Dent is suspected to be the Batman
Joker tries to kidnap Dent,finds Rachael,kidnaps her
Batman vs the Joker climax at an old abandoned amusement park( Killing Joke)
Batman and Dent want to kill the Joker after he cripples /kills Rachael

I'd like to see some of these. Except in the last one just Dent wanting to kill The Joker and Batman stopping him. It makes more sense to parrallel the characters. Dent leaning more towards vengeance rather than justice.


And I think when the guy said "old friend" earlier he meant Scarecrow right?
 
Sane Man said:
I'd like to see some of these. Except in the last one just Dent wanting to kill The Joker and Batman stopping him. It makes more sense to parrallel the characters. Dent leaning more towards vengeance rather than justice.


And I think when the guy said "old friend" earlier he meant Scarecrow right?
I hear what you're saying but Batman wanting to kill the Joker makes perfect sense because of what she means to him. Dent should take it further and should even punch Batman for getting in his way.
 
When it comes to the two big supposed plot points: 1. The Joker's rampage and 2. Gotham's gang war; I think I would more focus on the first one, and subtlely mention things more and more until the very end, when the war actually breaks out in the final act.

Basically, the main characters would be Batman, Gordon, and Dent all trying to track down and take out The Joker while he manipulates them and the small gangs/families trying to take over Falcone's turf.

Finally, they find out where he is, and what he has planned, so not only do they have to stop The Joker--they also has to stop this massive conflict from tearing the city apart.

Good? Bad?
 

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