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[Logan0327]

Just ignore Digific, he has a habit of playing the contrarian and then being proven wrong. Look no further than the Spider-man boards for numerous examples of this behavior.

As it's been said elsewhere, I have a feeling Apocalypse will be a turning point for Fox. With the mega-success of Deadpool, the tepid critical reception for Apocalypse, and the fact that it will be facing some stiff competition at the box office, I could really see them switching gears.

as much as i love the x men movies have spent more than enough time on the discrimination/oppression themes we get it and have gotten the idea for 16 years and it is good and all but maybe its time to move on from that and go have some super fun and heroics that deadpool did extremely well with

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think that I wasn't clear enough. I wasn't talking about audience scores, but audience reaction in terms of ticket sales. The reviews may not hurt the box office as much as many are claiming. Because there have been some very positive reactions. We will see next week.

There is a distinct difference between the type of films we are talking about. If you are super kid friendly, you get a leeway other films don't.

X-Men has never been kid friendly. Honestly, I think more kids were taken to see the R-rated Deadpool, then they have been to other X-Men movies. The tone and style just doesn't really appeal to most kids that way.

 

[Sithborg]

as much as i love the x men movies have spent more than enough time on the discrimination/oppression themes we get it and have gotten the idea for 16 years and it is good and all but maybe its time to move on from that and go have some super fun and heroics that deadpool did extremely well with

You understand that without that, the X-men are just another generic super team, right?

 

[Dopinder]

Everyone relax and accept Dopinder in your lives

#Dopinder is love, Dopinder is life

 

[SuperT]

as much as i love the x men movies have spent more than enough time on the discrimination/oppression themes...

Hmm, I don't necessarily think that's the right angle to go either since that's what helps differentiate the X-Men from being just another regular, run-of-the-mill superhero team like The Avengers. There can be a healthy medium between the oppression/discrimination themes and superheroics.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You understand that without that, the X-men are just another generic super team, right?

But they have kind of become generic. That is the problem with the repetition of the basic plot and themes with each film. Deadpool is a mutant, but avoids the tropes and actually makes fun of them.

 

[YoungBlood]

Everyone relax and accept Dopinder in your lives

#Dopinder is love, Dopinder is life

Didn't dolpinder get someone killed?
I mean it's not Man of Steel/Tony Stark bad, but how can I accept someone that tried to kill off their rival as well as being influenced by Deadpool of all people?

 

[Logan0327]

Hmm, I don't necessarily think that's the right angle to go either since that's what helps differentiate the X-Men from being just another regular, run-of-the-mill superhero team like The Avengers. There can be a healthy medium between the oppression/discrimination themes and superheroics.

dont get rid of it totally but maybe not so prominent and in your face because it can make every x men film feel the same and feel like singer doesn't have much else to tell story wise about the x men

 

[Tacit Ronin]

You understand that without that, the X-men are just another generic super team, right?

You do understand that some of the best X-men stories don't center around the discrimination angle right?

I guess they weren't actually X-men then.

 

[BeholdMe]

@psylockeolossus
Who cares if you seen the movie? Yea you tell yourself that instead of having a meltdown or going back to your ridiculous statements when you haven't even seen it and acting like you personally seen it and disliked it. Well guess what those people aren't you so why should they be able to warp your view of a film you haven't seen that's rather foolish. I don't use RT or any of those things personally I like to judge a film based on my own viewing on it not leave it to someone else. A lot of people are upset about the reception it's getting but some aren't making off the wall comments or continuing to bring up the OT when it's not going to happen, so it's called being dramatic which is what your doing. I never said it didn't bother me because if you can see I did say I panicked when I heard the reviews but I'll still put my support behind and give my OWN opinion once I've seen the actual movie. I don't care if you worth whether I'm concerned about the movie so dont get snarky with me because your OT ensemble film won't see the light of day.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You do understand that some of the best X-men stories don't center around the discrimination angle right?

I guess they weren't actually X-men then.

This is the exact problem of always centering the conflict around Charles and Erik. It almost seems like it has to come along at this point.

 

[Mad Ones]

The negative reviews (which are mostly meh) say that the movie is too much of a generic superhero movie. Sounds like this movie steps away from its themes of discrimination, except for maybe the Magneto stuff which is getting praised. I honestly don't think Apocalypse, as he is in the comics, is a critic-friendly villain. The movie probably needed to radically redefine him if it wanted the critic score.

 

[Neno_Kos]

This is the exact problem of always centering the conflict around Charles and Erik. It almost seems like it has to come along at this point.

people finally realized "deja vu" movies after getting it 16 years in row. people want something new. they dont want to watch same movies with same conflicts between same characters just in different era. one time 80's next time 90's and so on. this was on verge to happen sooner or later. it was inevitable.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Its obvious psylockeolossus is deep down sorta happy-ish about the reviews because it means fox may run back to the OC now, i mean until we hear otherwise he is gonna be a pain in the butt about the OC, i mean even more so ;p

 

[psylockolussus]

people finally realized "deja vu" movies after getting it 16 years in row. people want something new. they dont want to watch same movies with same conflicts between same characters just in different era. one time 80's next time 90's and so on.

I'm hoping Magneto wouldn't appear in the next one and I don't mind if he doesn't return anymore.

 

[Weather Witch]

This is the exact problem of always centering the conflict around Charles and Erik. It almost seems like it has to come along at this point.

Yet several reviews say that Charles and Erik are barely on screen together in this movie to begin with.

 

[Mad Ones]

Isn't Magneto one of the aspects of the movie that has been getting consistent praise? Why are some posters here pointing their pitchforks towards him?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Its obvious psylockeolossus is deep down sorta happy-ish about the reviews because it means fox may run back to the OC now, i mean until we heard otherwise he is gonna be a pain in the butt about the OC, i mean even more so ;p

Exactly. Look at his post in the sequel thread. He wants the idea of disaster to spread like wild fire.

 

[BeholdMe]

Its obvious psylockeolossus is deep down sorta happy-ish about the reviews because it means fox may run back to the OC now, i mean until we heard otherwise he is gonna be a pain in the butt about the OC, i mean even more so ;p

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but they'd sooner fully reboot the series then make another OT ensemble film even so this film won't do that bad for either to happen. We will get movies with Shipp,Turner and Sheridan so he can hope all he wants.

 

[SuperT]

Its obvious psylockeolossus is deep down sorta happy-ish about the reviews because it means fox may run back to the OC now, i mean until we heard otherwise he is gonna be a pain in the butt about the OC, i mean even more so ;p

Well he's going to be severely disappointed. What in the world would make anyone think they have any intention of going back to the original cast?

Not to be rude, but that cast is about as relevant as Atari at this point. The superhero movie landscape has changed drastically since they were last on screen together - nobody's checking for them at all other than fans trying to cling on to nostalgia.

 

[BeholdMe]

Isn't Magneto one of the aspects of the movie that has been getting consistent praise? Why are some posters here pointing their pitchforks towards him?

They are jumping the bandwagon cause some people disliked it. Then are pulling at straws as to why when the reviews are saying the opposite.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Isn't Magneto one of the aspects of the movie that has been getting consistent praise? Why are some posters here pointing their pitchforks towards him?

Yeah IGN had fassbender as a highlight

i am wondering whether we need something to blame and are aiming it at the wrong things here

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yet several reviews say that Charles and Erik are barely on screen together in this movie to begin with.

But they seem to serve the same roles as usual. They are barely together in X2 and X3 as well, but it is the same story, even with different villains.