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[YoungBlood]

The silver lining here is if this helps Tim Miller get in the drivers seat of directing the main line X-men flicks. Then all will be suddenly right with the world.

He's gonna need to do some big budget films before he gets an X-Men film, unless you want another Josh Trank situation.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He's gonna need to do some big budget films before he gets an X-Men film, unless you want another Josh Trank situation.

Deadpool proved an ability to handle a budget and the material. He made a 60m movie, look bigger then its budget. Just like Vaughn before First Class.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

He's gonna need to do some big budget films before he gets an X-Men film, unless you want another Josh Trank situation.

How many big budget films did Russo do before the Winter Soldier?

Whedon before the Avengers? Nolan before BB?

At least Tim has experience with Deadpool. The Russos came from television.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

The negative reviews (which are mostly meh) say that the movie is too much of a generic superhero movie. Sounds like this movie steps away from its themes of discrimination, except for maybe the Magneto stuff which is getting praised. I honestly don't think Apocalypse, as he is in the comics, is a critic-friendly villain. The movie probably needed to radically redefine him if it wanted the critic score.

apocalypse truthfully is alot like venom.... great first run.. but since then, because both were very one-note.. have had a hard time thriving in story telling... i mean all apocalypse basically does is constantly create horsemen in the books and tries to take over the world... and fails every time... there's really nothing exciting beyond that they've ever done with the character.

 

[marvelrobbins]

The silver lining here is if this helps Tim Miller get in the drivers seat of directing the main line X-men flicks. Then all will be suddenly right with the world.

which is teerrable idea.X-men are treated as joke In deadpool.

 

[SuperT]

I thought for sure they'd focus on the kids this time. It doesn't seem like they do, which disappointments me.

This is what's the most perplexing to me. Singer and production sounded like they really understood the importance of establishing Scott, Jean and Ororo as the core of the X-men. While it sounds like Scott, Jean and to a lesser extent Kurt, get some good groundwork, once again, Storm has been shafted.

This director just doesn't understand the importance of the character, how to write her and many other things. What a waste!

 

[GuestStar2004]

The writers of deadpool pretty much said they don't want a large budget because they felt it was better to make a movie in a certain budget because it allows being more creative

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Also, Trank abhorred the material. Tim has an incredible understanding of X-men.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Isn't Magneto one of the aspects of the movie that has been getting consistent praise? Why are some posters here pointing their pitchforks towards him?

truthfully you can have a good story arch for Erik, and praise it.. but still be incredibly annoyed with the Erik/Xavier tropes and the rehashed story that comes with their relationship.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The writers of deadpool pretty much said they didn't want a large budget because they felt it was better to make a movie in a certain budget because it allows being more creative

That is exactly what you say when you are trying to avoid the question of why they no give you money.

 

[Neno_Kos]

which is teerrable idea.X-men are treated as joke In deadpool.

ofcourse they are joke. it mocks everything singer and fox ever failed to make right. and for a reason. it wouldnt be a joke if it werent true. also jokes about x-men and studio are best ones for me in deadpool. I dont remember I laughed as much ever in cinema.

 

[Mad Ones]

apocalypse truthfully is alot like venom.... great first run.. but since then, because both were very one-note.. have had a hard time thriving in story telling... i mean all apocalypse basically does is constantly create horsemen in the books and tries to take over the world... and fails every time... there's really nothing exciting beyond that they've ever done with the character.

I don't like Apocalypse in the comics. But he's a character fans have wanted for years. The movie seems like a faithful translation of the character, but like you've said he's somewhat one-note. Thankfully this movie also promises to provide origins for my favourite characters and uses Apocalypse as an excuse to show powers on a greater scale than ever before (which might not have the depth I'm used to from X-movies but might still be fun to watch).

 

[Tacit Ronin]

which is teerrable idea.X-men are treated as joke In deadpool.

Yes, Colossus was treated as a joke.

No, wait. That was the Singer version. The Deadpool version is by far the best we've got and it wasn't even an X flick.

 

[marvelrobbins]

With Singer already taking a break from this to go direct 20,000 League's and Miller hitting it out of the park with Deadpool, I think there's definitely going to be directorial shakeup happening here.

If apocalypse is viewed as failure everyone involved with films may be replaced.in today's climate that is what studios do when a film in franchise is viewed as failure.

If reviews help kill apocalypse the chances of a sony like situation go from no chance in hell to a slim possibilty.

Miller is fine with deapool but i wouldn't want him touching a full X-men film at all.

 

[SuperT]

truthfully you can have a good story arch for Erik, and praise it.. but still be incredibly annoyed with the Erik/Xavier tropes and the rehashed story that comes with their relationship.

Exactly. Once again, I have no doubt that Magneto is another standout in the movie with a great arc and stellar performance by Fassbender, but we've already had that before. I can definitely understand why people would praise his performance and arc but still call it a rehash.

 

[Mad Ones]

ofcourse they are joke. it mocks everything singer and fox ever failed to make right. and for a reason. it wouldnt be a joke if it werent true. also jokes about x-men and studio are best ones for me in deadpool. I dont remember I laughed as much ever in cinema.

This doesn't make sense. Colossus was a joke and he wasn't anything like Singer's Colossus.

 

[Double B]

This is what's the most perplexing to me. Singer and production sounded like they really understood the importance of establishing Scott, Jean and Ororo as the core of the X-men. While it sounds like Scott, Jean and to a lesser extent Kurt, get some good groundwork, once again, Storm has been shafted.

This director just doesn't understand the importance of the character, how to write her and many other things. What a waste!

And this is the baffling thing. Any other studio, including Marvel for that matter, would give their right arms to have a trinity of female characters like Jean, Storm and Rogue at their disposal. Strong, independent, different, iconic, tonnes of history and development to mine through and they're continually paid dust.

But hey, here's Mystique forced into a role that doesn't suit her and Magneto turning good at the end... again!

 

[marvelrobbins]

Yes, Colossus was treated as a joke.

No, wait. That was the Singer version. The Deadpool version is by far the best we've got and it wasn't even an X flick.

all the X-men in deadpool were just punching bag for jokes in deadpool.colossus was portrayed as implation.

 

[Danbito]

The new kids have been a consistent highlight of the film, so they'll keep the cast on board. Although they will likely change the approach to story, I think. Ironically, I'm more excited for the reintroduction of the X-Men characters, and critics seem to be too. It's a shame they didn't push them forward in promotion as they did the Horsemen. Part of me wishes there were somewhat to reboot Iceman too to join them, maybe even get the "snowman" effect he had early on as part of the O5

 

[Logan0327]

i think they need to get vaughn and goldman back vaughn did say about 90% on his script was in dofp movie and first class was awesome

seeing how the script seems to be a big problem for XMA

 

[YoungBlood]

Yes, Colossus was treated as a joke.

No, wait. That was the Singer version. The Deadpool version is by far the best we've got and it wasn't even an X flick.

And yet he couldn't transform back to human because no actor can look like that in real life.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Yes, Colossus was treated as a joke.

No, wait. That was the Singer version. The Deadpool version is by far the best we've got and it wasn't even an X flick.

Well colossus kinda was there to be the butt of the joke, is that how he is in the comics?

I mean yeah he got to show off his strength in action and stuff which was cool but mostly it felt like he was just there to be splattered with blood, throw up, get hit in the balls and generally just show the difference between the X-Men and deadpool, the most obvious scene being where colossus is giving the good speech (again) and deadpool just shoots the guy and i dunno about anyone else but i knew the moment colossus started speeching that deadpool was just gonna shoot him because the whole be good deadpool, no **** you colossus was pretty much a thing through out.

 

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[marvelrobbins]

The new kids have been a consistent highlight of the film, so they'll keep the cast on board. Although they will likely change the approach to story, I think. Ironically, I'm more excited for the reintroduction of the X-Men characters, and critics seem to be too. It's a shame they didn't push them forward in promotion as they did the Horsemen. Part of me wishes there were somewhat to reboot Iceman too to join them, maybe even get the "snowman" effect he had early on as part of the O5

if they do reboot which is possibilty if reviews kill apocalypse at BO you do realize of course the X-men in comics became overly popular with wolverine,storm,colossus,and nightcrawler joined.