Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 43

[EnDz0n3]

'Mr. Robot' Star Rami Malek, Bryan Singer Teaming Up to Tackle Freddie Mercury Biopic

@AaronCouch

Bryan Singer now has 2 projects he’s set to direct. Don’t expect to see him at the helm of an X-Men film again soon

 

[Frankeh]

I'm just wondering why those fans did not show up for "X-Men:Apocalypse" then (and the critics hated it)? The movie's marketing emphasized all this comic book madness with a ridiculous character like Apocalypse and Psylocke's sexist comicbook swimsuit outfit? But the audience was not there for it.

My hypothesis:

1) Black costumes, for sure.
2) An Apocalypse that didn't look like the popular version of Apocalypse, plus he was being mocked by everyone on the internet.
3) Storm, Scott, Jean barely spoke in the trailers. In fact I think Storm did not say a word in trailers. We had to wait for a M&M commercial to hear her speak.
3) Jennifer Lawrence annoying the fanbase by not being in makeup and being a central character in trailers, in general they just don't like her performance or Singer's version of Mystique and the fact that she gets spotlight (and leading the X-Men) riles them up.
4) Bad special effects?
5) Lack of Wolverine
6) Lack of exciting action teases, Psylocke cutting a car in half was not as impressive as the shot of Magneto controlling the sentinels in DOFP trailers, the Sentinels descending from their ships in the future, Storm being almost impaled by a sentinel, etc.

 

[Stan Lee]

since when are either of those mutually exclusive? Something can't be like the comic and carry political weight????

that's absurdity. it's not a pick or choose one or the other.. a great X-men film would have both. You take the characters and their history seriously. this isn't 2002 its 2016 and it's been done multiple times in other franchises already.

It's been done in this franchise by X2 and DOFP.

 

[def28]

My hypothesis:

1) Black costumes, for sure.
2) An Apocalypse that didn't look like the popular version of Apocalypse, plus he was being mocked by everyone on the internet.
3) Storm, Scott, Jean barely spoke in the trailers. In fact I think Storm did not say a word in trailers. We had to wait for a M&M commercial to hear her speak.
3) Jennifer Lawrence annoying the fanbase by not being in makeup and being a central character in trailers, in general they just don't like her performance or Singer's version of Mystique and the fact that she gets spotlight (and leading the X-Men) riles them up.
4) Bad special effects?
5) Lack of Wolverine
6) Lack of exciting action teases, Psylocke cutting a car in half was not as impressive as the shot of Magneto controlling the sentinels in DOFP trailers, the Sentinels descending from their ships in the future, Storm being almost impaled by a sentinel, etc.

I think the villain definitely played into it. There was never anything really cool being put out with Apocalypse and the title banks on him. Add that the X-Men themselves are still not really being pushed as a strong enough sell, we have had a ton of X-Men films, the superhero market isn't that slim anymore plus the bad wom and all that led to it having an underwhelming reception with fans.

The comic fans definitely paid for this one though, don't think drawing that demo was the main issue. Most of us can't stay away from any comic film from Marvel or DC even if early word says it sucks. The GA and repeat viewings from fans was more so the problem.

 

[Stan Lee]

My hypothesis:

1) Black costumes, for sure.
2) An Apocalypse that didn't look like the popular version of Apocalypse, plus he was being mocked by everyone on the internet.
3) Storm, Scott, Jean barely spoke in the trailers. In fact I think Storm did not say a word in trailers. We had to wait for a M&M commercial to hear her speak.
3) Jennifer Lawrence annoying the fanbase by not being in makeup and being a central character in trailers, in general they just don't like her performance or Singer's version of Mystique and the fact that she gets spotlight (and leading the X-Men) riles them up.
4) Bad special effects?
5) Lack of Wolverine
6) Lack of exciting action teases, Psylocke cutting a car in half was not as impressive as the shot of Magneto controlling the sentinels in DOFP trailers, the Sentinels descending from their ships in the future, Storm being almost impaled by a sentinel, etc.

What leading did Mystique did? She was useless in the battle with the horsemen and Apocalypse. Not to mention needed saving from other characters twice.

 

[2kt09]

What leading did Mystique did? She was useless in the battle with the horsemen and Apocalypse. Not to mention needed saving from other characters twice.

Talking about the trailers which purported Mystique in a leadership role.

It's pretty ironic that all those lines didn't really signify that in the actual movie;
more like a cheerleader and getting significant others off their emotional rocker.

 

[psylockolussus]

'Mr. Robot' Star Rami Malek, Bryan Singer Teaming Up to Tackle Freddie Mercury Biopic

@AaronCouch

Great. Time for X-Men to get a better man in charge.

 

[marvelrobbins]

'Mr. Robot' Star Rami Malek, Bryan Singer Teaming Up to Tackle Freddie Mercury Biopic

@AaronCouch

since there has been no real annoucement on another X-Men film Singer's possable involvement if last thing people should worry about right now.

back In 2011 Simon Kinberg was announced as writer of first class sequel.By
fall in 2013 we heard fox was going to do third wolverine films with James Mangold and Hugh jackman.yet we have had no annoucements like those,and it's been over 5 months since Apocalypse.

Instead everything we hear is about spin-offs.Logan will be out In March and then primary attention is on Deadpool 2

besides those it's new mutants and X-force that Fox seems to be devolping.

Gambit is in a I will believe it when it happens.Though if fox hires new director and sets release date then that is sign it is happening.

Legion premieres on FX In February but it's connection to X-Men film franchise is up In the air for now.Another X-Men related tv show is in works for fox but nothing on it recently although it's possable they shoot pilot in early 2017 or spring

Fox keeps X-Men rights as long as they do films with mutant related characters.It's not crazy thought anymore fox may bench X-Men and do
X-force trilogy,and complete Deadpool trilogy and then do complete reboot
of X-Men.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Great. Time for X-Men to get a better man in charge.

fox has to make another X-Men film.and that is major open question at this
point.

 

[psylockolussus]

Tim Miller to direct the next X-Men film please!

 

[GuestStar2004]

since there has been no real annoucement on another X-Men film Singer's possable involvement if last thing people should worry about right now.

Well see the thing is right if next year fox said there was an X-Men related film set for 2019 then it opens the question about bryan singer as he would be busy so they would be looking for someone else to direct it and there is no point shrugging it off to hey we heard nothing so why talk about what could end up happening

besides those it's new mutants and X-force that Fox seems to be devolping.

How do we know they are still in development when we have heard nothing for ages though? if you want to go by what we haven't heard we might aswell just say because he haven't heard anything its clear nothing is in talks and they will probably be canceled

 

[marvelrobbins]

Well see the thing is right if next year fox said there was an X-Men related film set for 2019 then it opens the question about bryan singer as he would be busy so they would be looking for someone else to direct it and there is no point shrugging it off to hey we heard nothing so why talk about what could end up happening



How do we know they are still in development when we have heard nothing for ages though? if you want to go by what we haven't heard we might aswell just say because he haven't heard anything its clear nothing is in talks and they will probably be canceled

new mutants has josh Boone attacked.it was reported new writers were brought on.it's known whoever is cast as cable is being looked at for X-force 2 and frontrunner for deadpool 2 before miller left Deadpool 2 was being looked at for X-force.Cable and domino In Deadpool 2 is franchise building just as X-23 in Logan.

 

[GuestStar2004]

new mutants has josh Boone attacked.it was reported new writers were brought on.it's known whoever is cast as cable is being looked at for X-force 2 and frontrunner for deadpool 2 before miller left Deadpool 2 was being looked at for X-force.Cable and domino In Deadpool 2 is franchise building just as X-23 in Logan.

In the long run there is something going on behind the scenes with New mutants, there has yet to be a release date announced for that movie though, gambit had a release date that got pulled and things have very quiet so we don't know whats going on there

Wolverine 3 is set and is likely to be jackmans last while we know deadpool 2 is in the works so what does that leave fox? deadpool and X-Force every 2 years? i am almost certain X-Men are not gonna be forgotten about even if they take a break to work out where they are going with the next one which i think will probably be harder than most will think because fox will likely want an event type movie rather then a random 1 issue comic storyline

 

[Weather Witch]

Tim Miller to direct the next X-Men film please!

Yeah... just no.

 

[Stan Lee]

I think watching the previous X-films right before this one improves the film. Especially Jean's story in The Last Stand and Xavier's in Days of Future Past.

Xavier looked into Logan's head in DOFP and saw the events of that film. He learned not to make the same mistake of trying to control Jean Grey's power like his older counterpart did, instead chose to have hope that she would one day control her power. It truly highlights his arc in DOFP where he put more faith in people. He didn't just have hope in Erik and Raven, but Jean as well. Where now he don't want to hold her back, but to let go.

 

[Frankeh]

Tim Miller to direct the next X-Men film please!

Let's worry about the script first.

But yes, we need someone passionate about X-Men.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Tim Miller to direct the next X-Men film please!

Wouldn't be my first choice. Or fifth.

Anyways, as much as I enjoyed X-men Apocalypse in theatres, I wouldn't mind a Spider-man: Homecoming-type deal with Marvel Studios where they assist Fox with these films. This franchise is too scatterbrained for my liking.

They can even continue with the same cast.

Actually let's see how Sony performs with Homecoming first...

 

[GuestStar2004]

Let's worry about the script first.

But yes, we need someone passionate about X-Men.

Chances are most of the directors who directed this series have a passion for X-Men but that doesn't mean directors vision may not differ from the source material to make it work on screen in their own personal preference.

Like with Tim Miller for example people can say he translated colossus well and for what Colossus was there for he for the most part did and i have no issue with what he did with colossus but i will say in order for us to get that vision colossus was basically frankenstined, Millar didn't go out and find someone huge and Russian who could be colossus, no he pretty much created a character that was dependent on being CGI in bulk and height to work aswell as have someone else do the voice he wanted as you would for say an animated movie with the catch being there was no way you could give that character a non-steel form like he has in the comics because there was no 1 actor playing him.

 

[iacobusleo]

Let it be said that Tim Miller wanted Kyle Chandler for Cable and that's the reason why he dropped out of the project because Reynolds didn't agree.

Most of these directors have a passion for the X-Men, its just whether their vision jives with yours/the general public. I can tell you that if any one of us on here right now are each asked to direct an X-Men movie, each of our movies would be very different from each other.

 

[DavidHaller]

oh god, Tim Miller would be such a catastrophe helming the X-Men.


Let's get a director like Ava DuVernay or Rick Famuyiwa instead who would be capable to adapt and understand (!) the source material properly!!

I am so afraid to get again a X3 situation. Honestly, everything Brad Ratner did here was deeply entrenched in white man privilege entirely opaque how offensive his movie was.

 

[psylockolussus]

Wouldn't be my first choice. Or fifth.

Anyways, as much as I enjoyed X-men Apocalypse in theatres, I wouldn't mind a Spider-man: Homecoming-type deal with Marvel Studios where they assist Fox with these films. This franchise is too scatterbrained for my liking.

They can even continue with the same cast.

Actually let's see how Sony performs with Homecoming first...

As if MCu is gona let the established X-Men singerverse to be connected to their universe. It would be a start from scratch for the mutants.

 

[Havok83]

As if MCu is gona let the established X-Men singerverse to be connected to their universe. It would be a start from scratch for the mutants.

This. The X-men films are worse to incorporate than it would have been for Amazing Spider-Man. 16+ years and bloated continuity and history at this point. The MCU itself is getting there so that would only unnecessarily complicate things. It would be best to start from scratch and add their own spin that doesnt conflict with the universe they've established

 

[Stan Lee]

The MCU would have to basically rehash the plots of First Class and Days of Future Past to get mutants in there though.

I think the best move would be to make a Secret Wars movie that reboots both continuities. Kind of like what Days of Future Past did. Legion and Doctor Strange can make it happen.

 

[Zarex]

oh god, Tim Miller would be such a catastrophe helming the X-Men.


Let's get a director like Ava DuVernay or Rick Famuyiwa instead who would be capable to adapt and understand (!) the source material properly!!

I am so afraid to get again a X3 situation. Honestly, everything Brad Ratner did here was deeply entrenched in white man privilege entirely opaque how offensive his movie was.

Mr. Miller is a comic book junkie with a $400 a month habit. Based on that and his wildly successful take on Wade Wilson, I'm pretty sure he could understand and adapt the X-Men for the big screen. Unfortunately, his time in that universe is probably over.

 

[DavidHaller]

Mr. Miller is a comic book junkie with a $400 a month habit. Based on that and his wildly successful take on Wade Wilson, I'm pretty sure he could understand and adapt the X-Men for the big screen. Unfortunately, his time in that universe is probably over.

oh come on, Deadpool is such a weak movie that only succeeded because of a great marketing campaign producing the illusion that Deadpool was a heartfelt project of a group of 'authentic' comic book nerds fighting years to get this movie done against evil commercial corporations. It is all marketing without substance.

this movie is so ridiculously overrated. Dumb puberty humor and a very weak script is nothing that should be transfered into the X-Men movie world. I am actually wondering why they haven't cast Jim Carrey as the lead role because Deadpool evokes 1990s Jim Carrey comedies.