X-Men the Last Stand DVD review from IGN

[Wingfan]

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/729/729627p1.html

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Well, that was a fair review. Nothing I haven't heard, however.

I certainly wouldn't call it a "popcorn flick" though.

 

[Storm22]

No mention of Storm's Alcatraz wave in deleted scenes, hmmm.

DTS audio option too?!

 

[Retroman]

^^They've reviewed the Region 1 set which barely has any extras unlike the set in other countries.

IGN's Ratings for X-Men: The Last Stand
Rating Description
out of 10 click here for ratings guide
7 The Movie
Brett Ratner brings to life the last installment in the X-Men series.
8 The Video
A solid transfer brings Beast, Mystique and company to colorful life.
9 The Audio
A terrific DTS track offers plenty of audio accompaniment on your home theater.
4 The Extras
Two commentaries tell few interesting tales, while deleted scenes seem purely superfluous.
7 OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

Nice find btw Wingfan

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I found this to be interesting:

"notwithstanding Kinberg's seemingly total unfamiliarity with X-Men either as a comic book or film series"

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[Hugh'sMrs]

I found this to be interesting:

"notwithstanding Kinberg's seemingly total unfamiliarity with X-Men either as a comic book or film series"

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I saw that and thought, so much for their claims that he is THE BIGGEST FAN EVAH! I called BS on that months ago.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I found this to be interesting:

"notwithstanding Kinberg's seemingly total unfamiliarity with X-Men either as a comic book or film series"

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Hmm, what to say about that? I said it from the beginning that Kinberg and Penn were complete hacks and liars. I wonder what a lot of the hardcore defenders will say about this?

 

[X-Maniac]

Hmm, what to say about that? I said it from the beginning that Kinberg and Penn were complete hacks and liars. I wonder what a lot of the hardcore defenders will say about this?

I wouldn't call myself a 'hardcore defender' (you will surely have noticed my criticisms by now) but that sounds an intriguing part of the extras. If Kinberg is unfamiliar with the X-Men, I wonder why he wanted to write this script so much? Possibly he liked the first two movies but knew nothing beyond that? It would be interesting to hear HIS response.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I wouldn't call myself a 'hardcore defender' (you will surely have noticed my criticisms by now) but that sounds an intriguing part of the extras. If Kinberg is unfamiliar with the X-Men, I wonder why he wanted to write this script so much? Possibly he liked the first two movies but knew nothing beyond that? It would be interesting to hear HIS response.

There's nothing to hear. He'll just lie like he and Zakk did during the production of this movie, and of course you'll believe him and eat up anything he says because it's SIMON KINBERG OMG!

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Then Simon is a dick... and I know I took it back the first time I said he was a dick but right now, I mean it. I can thank him for bringing Jean back into this movie and writing some good moments regarding her and others, but I'm not gonna forgive him for lying about not being familiar with the comics and X-Men, being hardcore fans of Cyclops and fans of the franchise itself. I mean, how can you write an X-Men adaption when your not completely familiar with the mythology behind the X-Men? If you think I eat up what Simon or Zakk say? Well I don't cause those two writers and Fox do not go well together. I can tell you right now that they don't and you can definately notice it in the film.

 

[TNC9852002]

Stop being so dramatic, DOD...

I don't know if you're angry more about Simon supposedly lying about his own knowledge of the X-Men comics or that the movie didn't meet your expectations for every other reason.

-TNC

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Stop being so dramatic, DOD...

-TNC

hey hey now. I liked it but there was still something missing with X3!!

 

[TNC9852002]

hey hey now. I liked it but there was still something missing with X3!!

Yeah, but you're already resorting to name calling! I don't think the movie was limited from Simon's writing or supposed lack of knowledge of the X-Men universe, but ya know...

-TNC

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Yeah, but you're already resorting to name calling! I don't think the movie was limited from Simon's writing or supposed lack of knowledge of the X-Men universe, but ya know...

-TNC

well I called him once and I took it back... I mean. Im not blaming everything on him but all of this comes to Fox. So Fox is mostly the blame because they didn't want Jean and Scott in X3 although they could have saved them for another movie... but then again, we'd be asking ourselves, where the f*** is James and Famke? right?

 

[Downhere]

Ahh, some good news for me is that it has a DTS track...other than that, nothing else surprises me. I'm expecting a double dip when Wolverine hits theaters probably.

 

[N_z0]

I can't believe I fell for Ratner's "these two are the biggest X-men fans out there."

HACKS!

 

[X-Maniac]

I can't believe I fell for Ratner's "these two are the biggest X-men fans out there."

HACKS!

Probably they aren't the biggest X-Men fans out there.

Harris and Dougherty don't seem to know much about Superman either.

But Chris Claremont, Avi Arad and even Stan Lee were around for the filming of X3.

Whatever...

 

[N_z0]

Probably they aren't the biggest X-Men fans out there.

But to go from "Biggest X-men fans" to "seemingly total unfamiliarity with X-Men either as a comic book or film series"? That's not really something anyone even around here can defend. Nice try.

Harris and Dougherty don't seem to know much about Superman either.

Yet I doubt Harris nor Doughterty claimed to be champions of the Superman mythology.

But Chris Claremont, Avi Arad and even Stan Lee were around for the filming of X3.

Whatever...

So?

 

[X-Maniac]

But to go from "Biggest X-men fans" to "seemingly total unfamiliarity with X-Men either as a comic book or film series"? That's not really something anyone even around here can defend. Nice try.

Not defending, just shrugging it off. I'd need to see the evidence of this 'seemingly total unfamiliarity'. The word 'seemingly' makes it sound less certain for a start. Just let me at the next script and I'll give you the true essence of all the characters i'm allowed to include. You want depth to Colossus, an origin to Storm, wisecracks from Bobby, power and guts from Rogue... you'd get it...

Yet I doubt Harris nor Doughterty claimed to be champions of the Superman mythology.

Not sure what they claimed. But I'd lock them and Singer in a room with a heap of comicbooks if i had the chance.

So?

So they must have had some input in preserving whatever mythology they were able to do. It'd be interesting to hear what, if any, direct influence they had...

 

[LastSunrise1981]

But to go from "Biggest X-men fans" to "seemingly total unfamiliarity with X-Men either as a comic book or film series"? That's not really something anyone even around here can defend. Nice try.



Yet I doubt Harris nor Doughterty claimed to be champions of the Superman mythology.



So?

THANK YOU. I'm glad someone else other than me see through the lies Fox, Kinberg, Penn, and Ratner put out to get people to see the film.

I said that X-Maniac would find a way to defend Fox and the hacks they hired to create a film that closes the trilogy. And you're right, who cares if Stan Lee and Chris had cameos? Stan Lee has cameos in Spider-Man 1, 2, and 3, X1-X3, Daredevil, The Hulk, and did he have one in FF4? I'm not sure, but who cares? He's getting paid and he deserves to be recognized for the great work he's done with Marvel.

But I'm glad you see through the lies and aren't blindly following the crap Fox expects people to do.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

But to go from "Biggest X-men fans" to "seemingly total unfamiliarity with X-Men either as a comic book or film series"? That's not really something anyone even around here can defend. Nice try.

Exactly...

I don't watch commentaries, because if I'm gonna sit around for 2 hours watching a movie, I wanna actually watch the movie.

But hearing that quip about Simon Kinberg, I'm now really interested to hear that interview.

If that is true, then really, I'm gonna lose a lot of respect for Kinberg and Penn. Well, at least Kinberg. I trust that Penn knew at least halfway what he was talking about, afterall, the story for X2 was pretty much all his.

But all of Kinberg's talk, about how much of a fan he was, and how he was too much of a Gambit fan to regulate him to a minor role in a film, when he should be a premiere player, when he fought tooth and nail to get as much out of Cyclops as possible, and how he is just this overall huge fan...

You know, it's starting to make sense. Kinberg has made comments that they came up with Cyclops' fate before Marsden's role in Superman Returns was even being discussed... it would make sense if Kinberg is truly as blind towards the X-Men as that remark in the review makes him out to be. He wouldn't understand the importance of Cyclops in the Phoenix Saga, and he wouldn't understand why the fans were upset. Hence his stupid remarks "Nobody complained when Obi-Won died, or when Jean died" Those responses never went over well for me, as with Obi-Won, there was no pre-existing source material that Star Wars was based upon, and with Jean, well, it's part of her character arc to die.

Team that up with Zak Penn, who doesn't think the Phoenix Saga is about undying love being the only thing that can save Jean, add that onto a fan-base hatred of Fox for he treatment of Bryan Singer, and you have an easy scapegoat; Fox wanted Cyclops out of the picture from the get-go.

Maybe Fox isn't evil incarnate as some on here would have you believe... perhaps Kinberg and Penn really are just the hacks everyone has been accusing them of from the get go.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

THANK YOU. I'm glad someone else other than me see through the lies Fox, Kinberg, Penn, and Ratner put out to get people to see the film.

I said that X-Maniac would find a way to defend Fox and the hacks they hired to create a film that closes the trilogy. And you're right, who cares if Stan Lee and Chris had cameos? Stan Lee has cameos in Spider-Man 1, 2, and 3, X1-X3, Daredevil, The Hulk, and did he have one in FF4? I'm not sure, but who cares? He's getting paid and he deserves to be recognized for the great work he's done with Marvel.

But I'm glad you see through the lies and aren't blindly following the crap Fox expects people to do.

There you go again...

Can't it just be, that perhaps he doesn't blindly follow Fox's lies, but that he just doesn't care enough? That he watches the movie for the entertainment value, and couldn't care less about the behind-the-scenes politics?

I know that's how I feel. Sure, the politics make some nice discussion, but frankly, I don't give a **** about the politics. I watch the movie. If it's good, I buy it on DVD, if it's not good, I move on with my life, and onto the next movie.

I just simply don't care about the politics and lies, or whatever. I watch the movie, and leave it at that.

It's not blindly following anything, it's enjoying movies for what they are; entertainment, and not treating them like Presidential elections, that the outcome is going to directly influence my life or something.

 

[X-Maniac]

I wonder why Kinberg wanted to do this movie so much then?

i'm not defending him... i want to see this 'seemingly total unfamiliarity'... and I feel sure they often put a spin on things, as any commercial concern does. Ever heard your president/prime minister/any politican, those 'official statements' given by companies... it's all got some bull in it...

 

[N_z0]

Not defending, just shrugging it off. I'd need to see the evidence of this 'seemingly total unfamiliarity'. The word 'seemingly' makes it sound less certain for a start.

The fact that it's raised is intriguing enough. I have a feeling I'd be LOL'ing over this lack of X-men knowledge when I do eventually hear the supposed commentaries.

Just let me at the next script and I'll give you the true essence of all the characters i'm allowed to include. You want depth to Colossus, an origin to Storm, wisecracks from Bobby, power and guts from Rogue... you'd get it...

I really don't care about Petey (blasphemy!?! ), a Storm origin would've been nice. I could have lived without seeing Iceboy in a movie. And Rogue started out great in X-men and slowly but surely got pathetic.

Not sure what they claimed. But I'd lock them and Singer in a room with a heap of comicbooks if i had the chance.

I couldn't care less about SR.

Dougherty, Harris and Singer's X2 worked for me so I don't really have any grudges against any of them.

So they must have had some input in preserving whatever mythology they were able to do. It'd be interesting to hear what, if any, direct influence they had...

My post was in regards to the "biggest fans" comment and how the review makes it sound like neither writer (or atleast one of them) is even a fan to begin with. Bringing up the fact that Lee, Claremont or Arad (HA! somehow i doubt Avi has read a single x-men comic book) brings nothing to the argument.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

There you go again...

Can't it just be, that perhaps he doesn't blindly follow Fox's lies, but that he just doesn't care enough? That he watches the movie for the entertainment value, and couldn't care less about the behind-the-scenes politics?

I know that's how I feel. Sure, the politics make some nice discussion, but frankly, I don't give a **** about the politics. I watch the movie. If it's good, I buy it on DVD, if it's not good, I move on with my life, and onto the next movie.

I just simply don't care about the politics and lies, or whatever. I watch the movie, and leave it at that.

It's not blindly following anything, it's enjoying movies for what they are; entertainment, and not treating them like Presidential elections, that the outcome is going to directly influence my life or something.

See? That's part of the reason why you received the X-Men film you did, you don't care enough about the lies or the politics to voice your disgust.

Imagine if Batman fans had that same attitude? Batman Begins would've never happened, so yes I do care about the lies and the politics, because it's what determines whether or not I'm going to see the film that I've always wanted to see.

I knew Kinberg was clueless when he said, "Batman Begins wouldn't have suffered if 20-25 minutes was cut from the final product."