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Discussion in 'Batman World' started by Thread Manager, Jan 15, 2018.
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I don't go there, I love reading quotes from there brought here.
I can only assume that its filled with people who spout the you dont understand what they were going for, or the classic the symbolism is what makes the film lines.
Speaking of the films, one of the reasons I loathe this new set of films is how Batman is made out to be a psychopath. It prevents me from being emotionally invested in the character, the whole reason Batman was enjoyable in the Animated Series and TDK Trilogy was how human he was. Thats not even mentioning that this Batman is now the opposite of rational.
Im sure it has been said over and over again, but good god. I understand that this variant of Batman is inspired by TDKR, but its not a canon story nor is it a good example of his character.
"I don' need to recognize the world, I just need to save it"
He is not a psychopath! He just has no empathy for criminals!! They all deserve to be killed because of societal effects beyond their control!!!! You just don't get it!!!!!
Goddamn, all of this.
The fact that hes played by Ben Affleck, whos uninspiring all around as an actor himself doesnt help. I mean, he was solid, sure, but...at the end of the day, a pretty horrible take on the character.
And then you got the other fanboys who consider that because of a single Arkham-reminiscent fight scene and the costume he wears, hes the best version of on-film Batman so far because hes the closest to the comics. Funny thing is, theyre wrong on both accounts.
Ledger was voted top Best Supporting Actor Oscar winner of 2000s on Gold Derby.
I would push back against calling Batman psychotic in DKR. He's definitely troubled and haunted in a way that was (and still kind of is) unique among other incarnations, but he was still heroic in a way Snyder's Batman was not. He didn't kill people. Since that book there's been a greater emphasis placed on the character's fractured psyche and darkness, but it wasn't really the fault of DKR. It was people (DC executives) learning the wrong lessons from it, just as WB learned the wrong lessons from TDKT.
Hey Joker; I think I'm going to say I share your opinion when it comes to the two George Lucas franchises about one being a delight while the other one does not click with me.
Interesting thesis on the filmmaking of Snyder...
Empire Magazine greatest movie villains list (poll results)
Empire villains cover
Kylo Ren over Anton Chigurh? A lot of stable geniuses voting in there.
There should be (and probably is in terms of vote numbers) a big gap between 2 and 3.
I wouldn't have Loki that high and Kylo Ren shouldn't make anywhere near the top 20.
It's a shame Ledger has completely overshadowed Jack. He deserves recognition.
Oh I still love Jack... I think he's become more appreciated after Leto.
Why the F is Thanos on that cover?
Nice to see Michael Myers make the top 20. He's far scarier than Freddy ever was in my view. My boy Joker scoring the number 2 spot
I agree, especially when it comes to the first film. They should have added Leatherface or Dracula to that list.
Agreed. Kylo Ren is more childish than intimidating or threatening, imo. And Snoke saw that. [BLACKOUT]The scene where Snoke belittles Ren in TLJ is a good example why Ren was weak villain.[/BLACKOUT]
Agent Smith and The Joker made it, but I also wrote the first Terminator, Clarence J. Boddicker, Bill (from Kill Bill).
T-1000 made the list and the original T-800 didn't? Thanks, T2.
Congrats to Chris Nolan on dat Oscar nomination. Well-deserved and long overdue.