The Dark Knight Rises You Have My Permission To Lounge - Part 9

[The Shape]

If you're aiming to differentiate Batman's voice from Bruce's, the simple answer is that it's easier. It's easier for the actor and you can use an in-universe explanation as to why Batman sounds different. It could easily be used as a crutch, but I don't think it's a bad idea inherently. To be fair, Conroy's in a league of his own. Not many people can do what he did vocally with the character. Whatever you think about Bale's growl, it did feel like an expression of an alter-ego when he used it. Beyond its logistical use as a disguise, it was a persona he fully adopted when in the suit. That's why he still used it in front of people who knew better.

Voice-over acting is a bit different than on-screen, live-action acting, which is why Conroy's overall approach (especially in the early days of BTAS) might not be as effective or easy for a film actor to achieve.

Batfleck's voice modulation was a good idea that I've come to appreciate more as time has passed. You make a good point about the fact that it provides an in-universe explanation as to how/why Batman has a different and more intimidating/demonic voice than Bruce Wayne himself. Additionally, the existence of his Batvoice also has obvious logic and reasoning behind it, in that it allows Bruce to easily disguise his own voice. To a slightly lesser extent, it can also be said that Batfleck uses it to fully adopt the Batman persona, as his modulation was active even when speaking to Aflred

You're also right about the fact that it's easier for the actor. Overall, I loved Bale's Batvoice in TDKT and wouldn't trade it for anything, but it was clear that it required Bale to exert a certain level of constant effort while he recited his lines -- whether he was roaring with intensity or just reciting expositional dialogue to another character. This is especially true in TDK and TDKR, where he would sometimes appear to be exasperated as he tried to keep up the voice, preventing him from speaking more calmly and naturally at times. And obviously, there are a few instances throughout TDKT where it wasn't easy to make out everything Batman was saying.

One final benefit of the voice modulator is consistency. Like I said, I loved Bale's Batvoice, but we all know it was fairly inconsistent at times in terms of execution (especially in BB).

I still really love Keaton's Batvoice throughout most of his two outings.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I've been listening to Elfman's Batman theme on repeat all day today. I don't care about anything. When I hear that theme in the theater I am gonna lose my mind.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

My favorite Batman voice is Karl Urban as Dredd.

 

[StarLord]

That Justice League score...

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Yeah, but all the DCEU fanboys are freaking out... and thats always fun to watch.

 

[shauner111]

Wait what happened?

 

[Ryan]

Ah just found the score.

 

[StarLord]

Wait what happened?

The reaction to the Elfman score.

 

[Kane52630]

They got their pitchforks ready like it's the end of the world for them.

 

[StarLord]

They got their pitchforks ready like it's the end of the world for them.

 

[shauner111]

Did they release the whole score?

At first I thought you guys were talking about the Rotten Tomatoes score. Btw social embargo ends tomorrow morning I believe, but it's supposedly some hand picked comic bloggers so expect all positives like the early BvS reactions on Twitter. Which means everyone on here who loves the DCEU will say things like SEE I TOLD YOU! The review embargo lifts next week like a day before release or something like that, which is hilarious.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The reaction to the Elfman score.

The score stank?

 

[StarLord]

Did they release the whole score?

It's out there on YouTube. Go listen to it for a laugh.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I read some crazy reactions to the score in that Danny Elfman thread. Apparently the score is a mix of B89, the Rami Spider-Man films and the Avengers

Haven't listened to it myself though.

 

[StarLord]

Track called ''The Final Battle'' should have been called ''The Kitchen Sink''.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

One poster lamented that there is hint of the Avengers in there but no Zimmer. He seemed broken and crushed.

 

[BatLobster]

I listened to the score. Honestly, it's not bad, but not great either. It's kind of all over the place for me. There are some moments I like, some moments I dislike and a whole lot of neutral. It's certainly competent, and I'm guessing it suits the tone the Joss wanted for the movie. I think there was a certain amount of hype with Elfman returning to score a DC film, and this score ends up falling inevitably short on first listen. I'll have to see how it plays in the film though.

I will say, I do think it's a totally missed opportunity if he doesn't use the Zimmer Superman theme. There should be at least some musical continuity between the films, and I'd be curious to hear Elfman's take on it.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Track called ''The Final Battle'' should have been called ''The Kitchen Sink''.

That starts as Avengers, then goes Batman, then Batman Returns, then it goes Man of Steel for a second, and then it mixes the "I'm Batman" theme with "Hunting Joker's Balloons", mixed with something from TDK trilogy music, and a touch of Spider-Man.

Four minutes.


I'll call it; "the Blender".

 

[DoomRulz]

That score was at least 75% all Spider-Man, 15% Avengers and 10% something else. Is Elfman even trying?

 

[shauner111]

That sounded like some generic, boring OST for some bad upcoming Mummy movie.

 

[Brother Jack]

It sounds kind of like what I expected it to be; a hodge-podge of styles and influences that doesn't have an organized focus. I'm expecting the film to be the same way.

 

[The Joker]

The score from Hulk 2003 is in there.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Oh dear...What a madman.

 

[Kane52630]

It nothing new with film composers reusing old scores. As great as he is, Zimmer has done it before as well.

 

[Brother Jack]

Zimmer copies himself all the time. It's practically his trademark.