Your military opinion?

[lazur]

Since the other thread didn't have a poll, let's see how people really feel...

Edit: I don't have an option for those who were in the military and encourage others to join, but I figure choice #7 is adequate.

 

[Hades]

There is no poll here either

 

[Kaleb]

I cant join the millitary here cause Im most likely to catch aids if I do.

 

[lazur]

There is no poll here either

Check again. There's a bug that requires you to enter text before creating the poll, and then it posts the first message before the poll is even done.

 

[Kaleb]

http://www.rense.com/general42/ffi.htm

 

[Addendum]

I tried to join the military for the sole reason of paying off my student loans. The only thing that kept me out was my eyes.

 

[tzarinna]

I don't have a problem with anyone that serves and I give much props to those that do.
I was a volunteer for the WWII Memorial events on the Mall in DC. I was very touched seeing some of the reunions,sad seeing how few remained.

I worked on about 6 or 7 military bases where all I heard were people counting down the months until they were out. So clearly they weren't happy.

I had thought about joining but I have a thing about commitment.

 

[Daisy]

Hey lazur

Where's the "I haven't been in the military, but a close family member/friend or significant other is/was, and I'm proud of them for their service." option?

 

[Daisy]

I don't have a problem with anyone that serves and I give much props to those that due.
I was a volunteer for the WWII Memorial events on the Mall in DC.

I worked on about 6 or 7 military bases where all I heard was people counting down the months until they were out. So clearly they weren't happy.

I had thought about joining but I have a thing about commitment.

Just because they're counting down, doesn't mean they were particularly unhappy. Many times it's as simple as they aren't planning on making the military their career and are looking forward to being civilians again.

Like being a part of any institution, there is good and bad. Few people (even the career folks) enjoy reporting for a daily 6 am (or earlier) muster. Heck, my boyfriend (who's career) complains about reporting for a 7:30 muster. He also keeps track of how many years until he's eligible for retirement - but it isn't because he doesn't enjoy what he does. It's really just part of human nature, I think.

It's similar to students counting down to college graduation. Just because they count down, doesn't mean they aren't enjoying their time in college. It just means they're looking forward to the next phase of their life.

 

[Ben Urich]

I've never been in the military and will never join the military, but I have nothing against anyone who joins.

 

[roach]

Proud member of the US Navy

 

[tzarinna]

Just because they're counting down, doesn't mean they were particularly unhappy. Many times it's as simple as they aren't planning on making the military their career and are looking forward to being civilians again.

Like being a part of any institution, there is good and bad. Few people (even the career folks) enjoy reporting for a daily 6 am (or earlier) muster. Heck, my boyfriend (who's career) complains about reporting for a 7:30 muster. He also keeps track of how many years until he's eligible for retirement - but it isn't because he doesn't enjoy what he does. It's really just part of human nature, I think.

It's similar to students counting down to college graduation. Just because they count down, doesn't mean they aren't enjoying their time in college. It just means they're looking forward to the next phase of their life.

It seems their body language and how they said it gave the impression they were stoked about getting out,ending their misery.

 

[roach]

It seems their body language and how they said it gave the impression they were stoked about getting out,ending their misery.

everyone in the Military goes thru that phase...about a year ago I was thinking about getting out. Some people do decide to get out and some decide to re-enlist. I know plenty of people who have gotten out and many(not all) regret getting out. The military lifestyle isnt an easy one. You are never home and you tend to miss out on the holidays....but that is why it's called a sacrifice. As things stand right now I am poised to do some great things in the Navy.

 

[jaguarr]

I have many friends and family that are in the military and I support them and their decision to do so 100%. Doing something of that nature is a highly personal and individual choice and the only thing I wish for them is to be kept safe and out of harms way as much as possible.

And let's be clear about something, since there seems to be a tendency to confuse two very separate issues: It is indeed possible to be highly supportive of our military and our troops while disagreeing with the ideological reasons they are sent to certain parts of the world and the jobs they are asked to perform while they are there. Those are two separate issues and should never be confused. Ever.

jag

 

[roach]

It is very possible to support the troops and disagree with the Administration...I think some people on these boards are confused about that.

 

[Daisy]

Proud member of the US Navy

My boyfriend's Navy as well.

 

[Ben Urich]

And let's be clear about something, since there seems to be a tendency to confuse two very separate issues: It is indeed possible to be highly supportive of our military and our troops while disagreeing with the ideological reasons they are sent to certain parts of the world and the jobs they are asked to perform while they are there. Those are two separate issues and should never be confused. Ever.

That's the boat I'm in. I absolutely detest what we're doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, but I blame the administration, not the men and women on the ground just carrying out their (misguided) orders.

 

[tzarinna]

everyone in the Military goes thru that phase...about a year ago I was thinking about getting out. Some people do decide to get out and some decide to re-enlist. I know plenty of people who have gotten out and many(not all) regret getting out. The military lifestyle isnt an easy one. You are never home and you tend to miss out on the holidays....but that is why it's called a sacrifice. As things stand right now I am poised to do some great things in the Navy.

Yeah, these folks were pretty young and I think they didn't feel as if they were being fully utilized. Sometimes it's best to move on.
I know a lady that got her pilot license for both planes and helicopters. She flies commercially on and off. It has it's benefits certainly. My sister got school paid for and travelled,she never saw a war.

 

[roach]

My boyfriend's Navy as well.

Lucky you

 

[roach]

Yeah, these folks were pretty young and I think they didn't feel as if they were being fully utilized. Sometimes it's best to move on.
I know a lady that got her pilot license for both planes and helicopters. She flies commercially on and off. It has it's benefits certainly. My sister got school paid for and travelled,she never saw a war.

hell everyone in my bootcamp class hated being in the Navy and we were just in it for a few months...once we got out to the fleet and experienced life it was cool

 

[Daisy]

It is very possible to support the troops and disagree with the Administration...I think some people on these boards are confused about that.

I agree. Perhaps their view is that by joining/being a part of the military, it automatically means that a person supports the administration. I think some also don't understand that the chain-of-command goes up to the president, so that coming out publicly and dissing the pres, is the same as if someone went on national TV or was intereviewed for the NYT and dissed the head of their company. You probably wouldn't last long at the company.

 

[jaguarr]

It is very possible to support the troops and disagree with the Administration...I think some people on these boards are confused about that.

Honestly, I blame the neo-cons for that. They infected the cultural rhetoric with the poisonous idea that not supporting the wars in the Middle East was the equivalent of not supporting the troops. It's completely ridiculous but the number of people that bought into that particular bit of snake oil is alarming.

jag

 

[roach]

I agree. Perhaps their view is that by joining/being a part of the military, it automatically means that a person supports the administration. I think some also don't understand that the chain-of-command goes up to the president, so that coming out publicly and dissing the pres, is the same as if someone went on national TV or was intereviewed for the NYT and dissed the head of their company. You probably wouldn't last long at the company.

because we dont serve the politicians, we dont serve the Republicans or the Democrats...we serve the American people. We dont question orders we just do them.

 

[Daisy]

Lucky you

I consider myself so, for things that don't necessarily have to do with him being in the Navy, but at the same time I know that part of what made him the man he is today is his experiences the last 8 years in the Navy.

 

[lazur]

Hey lazur

Where's the "I haven't been in the military, but a close family member/friend or significant other is/was, and I'm proud of them for their service." option?

Bah, option #7 is the all-inclusive pat on the back to military people, close family or otherwise .